Post by Deleted on May 3, 2012 2:50:08 GMT -5
I wouldn't have touched this Kilpsch RW-12D sub at $1000 or anything over $500. At $299 it becomes mildly interesting. For a sub that measures 21" x 19.2" x 14.6", 49 lbs is pretty light and sounds like a rather lightweight enclosure. I see some comments that some of them were delivered with significant outter box damage. Perhaps that is why it says at the NewEgg site:
"Klipsch Reference RW-12d 12" Powered Subwoofer Each w/ New box"
I would make sure these are not refurbished and if you can refuse the shipment without any penalty if there is any obvious damage.
Doesn't seem to be the best sub for tight defined sound at higher levels, but for $299, maybe not so bad.
kLISPCH RW-12D SPECIFICATIONS
06320275: 06320275
AMPLIFIER: BASH digital hybrid
AMPLIFIER POWER: FTC Rated Power: 350 watts continuous @ <2% THD / Dynamic Power*: 825 watts
BUILT FROM: 2006
DEPTH: 21" (53.3cm)
DRIVE COMPONENTS: 12" (30.5cm) Cerametallic cone, front-firing woofer
ENCLOSURE TYPE: Bass-reflex via front-firing CornerPort
EXPORT VOLTAGE: 220 VAC 50/60Hz
FEATURES: DCS control and feature set w/ 3 system presets
FINISHES: Black Ash woodgrain vinyl
FREQUENCY RESPONSE: 24-120Hz +/-3dB
HEIGHT: 19.2" (48.8cm)
INPUTS: L/R Line-level RCA jacks, L/R High-level speaker binding posts
MAXIMUM ACOUSTIC OUTPUT: 116dB @ 30Hz 1/8 space, 1m
OUTPUTS: None
VOLTAGE: 110/120 VAC 60Hz
WEIGHT: 49lbs (22.2kg)
WIDTH: 14.6" (37.1cm)
Review by Sound & Vision, May 22, 2007
Klipsch RW-12d ($699)
What's in the Box?
• Driver: 12 inches
• Rated amplifier power: 350 watts continuous
• Cabinet design: front firing, ported
• Finish: black ash
• Controls: level, EQ mode (Punch and Depth emphasis settings at 60 and 30 Hz, respectively, and Flat), variable low-pass crossover (40 to 120 Hz in 5-Hz increments), crossover bypass, variable phase (10-degree increments), power, auto-on/on.
• Ins & outs: dual line-level inputs, dual speaker-level inputs
• Warranty: 2 years
How Big Is It?
• Dimensions (WxHxD): 14.5 x 19.3 x 21 inches
• Cabinet volume: 3.4 cubic feet
• Footprint: 2.1 square feet
• Weight: 49 pounds
Setup
At first glance, this sub looked like somebody had ripped off all its controls. The only one one the back is a power switch. Closer examination revealed a small cursor keypad and display on the top front of the cabinet. Unfortunately, it covers only the basic control set, and I found it a pain to use. On the upside, you can store three different global settings. This is convenient because, for example, you might want less bass for music and more for movies. There are no line- or speaker-level outputs, and I thought the sub's plastic grille cover looked kind of flimsy for a macho subwoofer. The low-pass crossover reaches up to about 95 Hz, so blending with satellites should not be a problem.
How Low Does It Go?
• Bass limit (Flat setting): 20 Hz at 86 dB SPL (maximum 10% distortion)
How Big the Bang?
• Average maximum output, 25 to 62 Hz (Flat setting): 108 dB SPL
• Maximum output (Flat setting): 115 dB SPL at 50 Hz
• Dollars per dB: $6.47
How Did It Sound?
Saint-Saens The RW-12d did a reasonable job with the lower half octave and nearly handled the 16-Hz tones. The upper half octave had a reasonably balanced response, without any undue peaks. The sub's tonal quality was a little boomy, however, and it sometimes blossomed into resonance when hitting certain notes. It delivered lots of good bass but occasionally some not so good bass.
Linkin Park The RW-12d sure didn't shy away from this tough track, jumping in with loads of low bass and doing a great job at soft levels. It tackled the lowest notes and played them, not with the best fidelity, but with lots of energy. Mid and upper frequencies were more controlled, but the tonal quality was sometimes muddy. The snap in the bass line was obscured by some port noise, so the power of the note was there, but not always the enunciation. When really cranked, distortion was evident.
Superman Returns This sub is a real barn-burner. It cranked out loads of low bass and easily made the bric-a-brac rattle, handling the various rocket engines, airplane dives, and explosions with plenty of sonic power. On the other hand, that output was clean only at lower levels. At high levels, the breakup was easy to hear when I soloed the sub. With the satellites playing as well, however, much of this clutter was masked. So in real-life application (who besides a reviewer listens to a subwoofer by itself?), the faults are less apparent.
Godzilla The bass track on Godzilla is not a finesse track -- it is an all-out let's-move-air track. The RW-12d was not put off by the challenge. When the Big Guy stomps, this sub shakes. It rumbled my rafters in the underwater sequence as the submarines closed in. When pushed, it hit the wall with some serious "blatting," but up to that limit, this sub was impressive with big-time LFE material.
What's the Bottom Line?
The RW-12d does a good job at moderate levels, with a healthy amount of low bass and good upper-range tonal balance. When cranked up on music, however, it overreaches and can't hold it together, yielding powerful but often muddy bass. This is passable for movies, but not for music. Thus, I liked this sub a lot for movies, where it really shook the room, but somewhat less so for music. I found the keypad and display to be a pain to use; I consistently punched the wrong buttons and longed for a couple of simple knobs.
IMO, Here's a lot better sub for $200 more.
www.outlawaudio.com/products/lfm1plus.html
"Klipsch Reference RW-12d 12" Powered Subwoofer Each w/ New box"
I would make sure these are not refurbished and if you can refuse the shipment without any penalty if there is any obvious damage.
Doesn't seem to be the best sub for tight defined sound at higher levels, but for $299, maybe not so bad.
kLISPCH RW-12D SPECIFICATIONS
06320275: 06320275
AMPLIFIER: BASH digital hybrid
AMPLIFIER POWER: FTC Rated Power: 350 watts continuous @ <2% THD / Dynamic Power*: 825 watts
BUILT FROM: 2006
DEPTH: 21" (53.3cm)
DRIVE COMPONENTS: 12" (30.5cm) Cerametallic cone, front-firing woofer
ENCLOSURE TYPE: Bass-reflex via front-firing CornerPort
EXPORT VOLTAGE: 220 VAC 50/60Hz
FEATURES: DCS control and feature set w/ 3 system presets
FINISHES: Black Ash woodgrain vinyl
FREQUENCY RESPONSE: 24-120Hz +/-3dB
HEIGHT: 19.2" (48.8cm)
INPUTS: L/R Line-level RCA jacks, L/R High-level speaker binding posts
MAXIMUM ACOUSTIC OUTPUT: 116dB @ 30Hz 1/8 space, 1m
OUTPUTS: None
VOLTAGE: 110/120 VAC 60Hz
WEIGHT: 49lbs (22.2kg)
WIDTH: 14.6" (37.1cm)
Review by Sound & Vision, May 22, 2007
Klipsch RW-12d ($699)
What's in the Box?
• Driver: 12 inches
• Rated amplifier power: 350 watts continuous
• Cabinet design: front firing, ported
• Finish: black ash
• Controls: level, EQ mode (Punch and Depth emphasis settings at 60 and 30 Hz, respectively, and Flat), variable low-pass crossover (40 to 120 Hz in 5-Hz increments), crossover bypass, variable phase (10-degree increments), power, auto-on/on.
• Ins & outs: dual line-level inputs, dual speaker-level inputs
• Warranty: 2 years
How Big Is It?
• Dimensions (WxHxD): 14.5 x 19.3 x 21 inches
• Cabinet volume: 3.4 cubic feet
• Footprint: 2.1 square feet
• Weight: 49 pounds
Setup
At first glance, this sub looked like somebody had ripped off all its controls. The only one one the back is a power switch. Closer examination revealed a small cursor keypad and display on the top front of the cabinet. Unfortunately, it covers only the basic control set, and I found it a pain to use. On the upside, you can store three different global settings. This is convenient because, for example, you might want less bass for music and more for movies. There are no line- or speaker-level outputs, and I thought the sub's plastic grille cover looked kind of flimsy for a macho subwoofer. The low-pass crossover reaches up to about 95 Hz, so blending with satellites should not be a problem.
How Low Does It Go?
• Bass limit (Flat setting): 20 Hz at 86 dB SPL (maximum 10% distortion)
How Big the Bang?
• Average maximum output, 25 to 62 Hz (Flat setting): 108 dB SPL
• Maximum output (Flat setting): 115 dB SPL at 50 Hz
• Dollars per dB: $6.47
How Did It Sound?
Saint-Saens The RW-12d did a reasonable job with the lower half octave and nearly handled the 16-Hz tones. The upper half octave had a reasonably balanced response, without any undue peaks. The sub's tonal quality was a little boomy, however, and it sometimes blossomed into resonance when hitting certain notes. It delivered lots of good bass but occasionally some not so good bass.
Linkin Park The RW-12d sure didn't shy away from this tough track, jumping in with loads of low bass and doing a great job at soft levels. It tackled the lowest notes and played them, not with the best fidelity, but with lots of energy. Mid and upper frequencies were more controlled, but the tonal quality was sometimes muddy. The snap in the bass line was obscured by some port noise, so the power of the note was there, but not always the enunciation. When really cranked, distortion was evident.
Superman Returns This sub is a real barn-burner. It cranked out loads of low bass and easily made the bric-a-brac rattle, handling the various rocket engines, airplane dives, and explosions with plenty of sonic power. On the other hand, that output was clean only at lower levels. At high levels, the breakup was easy to hear when I soloed the sub. With the satellites playing as well, however, much of this clutter was masked. So in real-life application (who besides a reviewer listens to a subwoofer by itself?), the faults are less apparent.
Godzilla The bass track on Godzilla is not a finesse track -- it is an all-out let's-move-air track. The RW-12d was not put off by the challenge. When the Big Guy stomps, this sub shakes. It rumbled my rafters in the underwater sequence as the submarines closed in. When pushed, it hit the wall with some serious "blatting," but up to that limit, this sub was impressive with big-time LFE material.
What's the Bottom Line?
The RW-12d does a good job at moderate levels, with a healthy amount of low bass and good upper-range tonal balance. When cranked up on music, however, it overreaches and can't hold it together, yielding powerful but often muddy bass. This is passable for movies, but not for music. Thus, I liked this sub a lot for movies, where it really shook the room, but somewhat less so for music. I found the keypad and display to be a pain to use; I consistently punched the wrong buttons and longed for a couple of simple knobs.
IMO, Here's a lot better sub for $200 more.
www.outlawaudio.com/products/lfm1plus.html
