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Post by GS on May 12, 2012 2:42:28 GMT -5
What available commercial amp has these modules? I have only heard about these in the DIY circles. This reminds me of the ice modules. Power is made up of current and voltage. These type of modules have great voltage capability but physic being what it is, are really current limited. The ice modules had issues with certain demanding speaker designs. I would not be surprised if these did as well.  The first ones that came out did but I've not heard many having problems with this current gen. We've had my Dragons playing with maggie 3.7 at my bro in laws store for almost a hour straight at extremely hig volume in the sound room just to see. The owner said even his mac and sim audio stuff would have crapped the bed in under 15 minutes from thermal shutdown. The dragons were pretty warm but not hot. thats not saying that ICE will be perfect with all speakers but I can't think of many more demanding that the 3.7's. though the titan was a sexy ass amp I must say lol You are damn right. Till this moment I see on emotiva the same. (more or less watts, more or less channels, more or less price, more or less...) Hopefully that changes, emotiva has the ability to be a leading firm. Jerry Perhaps Big Dan can lift the blanket a bit more |
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Post by dragonV on May 14, 2012 19:43:07 GMT -5
lc, if the xpa-7 specs are anything to go on I would say, why would emo release a xpa-7 when they already had plans to release the xpr-7 with the exact same load-out in power, regardless of whether it was a a/b or g/h class amp.. if the xpa-7 becomes available i hope it comes with the xpr-7's LED face plate Agreed that would be awesome if it had the old XPR-7's face plate!!!! Expecially now they have gone for a different styling direction for the XPR amps, wouldn't really infringe on that line. Hmmmmmmm yummy.......only problem Emotiva would struggle to keep up with supply they would be so popular!!!!!!! Attachments:
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Post by fdzombiedawg on Jun 4, 2012 5:51:13 GMT -5
Taking into account when I sent the email previously, I was told between August and November, 2 new 7 Channels should be out.
XPA should be one (especially after reading this thread) unknow if the other will be a XPR or UPA.
Anyone here anything more specific to the XPA-7 by chance?
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Post by jerrin on Jun 4, 2012 12:13:04 GMT -5
+1  -1   Its dead quiet about the real innovations of Emotiva. Where are the specs about the XPR, only pictures What about monoblocks, highpowerd and in smaller cases so you don't have to build a new house around your amps. High energy costs..... Its a bit of a disappointment till so far. The competition doesn't stand still. Ncore amp's from Holland for example, buying by internet of top class modules. Jerry What available commercial amp has these modules? I have only heard about these in the DIY circles. This reminds me of the ice modules. Power is made up of current and voltage. These type of modules have great voltage capability but physic being what it is, are really current limited. The ice modules had issues with certain demanding speaker designs. I would not be surprised if these did as well. True. But the many comments regarding these Ncore amps from known audiophiles is very surprising. One day, hopefully not too far, I'm going to give some a listen and decide for myself. Their strongest praise so far is that they are like looking through a window into the music. Just super clear and neutral, but not sterile. Sounds good to me if it's true. |
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Post by bootman on Jun 4, 2012 14:20:28 GMT -5
Their strongest praise so far is that they are like looking through a window into the music. Just super clear and neutral, but not sterile. Sounds good to me if it's true. Be careful when praise is audiophile jargon vs all channels driven 4 ohm measurements.  I'm sure with efficient speakers, they will be fine. |
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Post by jerrin on Jun 4, 2012 20:47:19 GMT -5
Their strongest praise so far is that they are like looking through a window into the music. Just super clear and neutral, but not sterile. Sounds good to me if it's true. Be careful when praise is audiophile jargon vs all channels driven 4 ohm measurements. I'm sure with efficient speakers, they will be fine. I agree that it's healthy to remain skeptical, but the point is, several of the diehard tube folks are switching. I do see where a FFT plot was posted recently. www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=107040.0 |
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Post by qwertyqwerty44 on Sept 3, 2012 14:20:41 GMT -5
Hey guys,
I see that the UPA-700 is being released soon. Was there any word at Emofest about the XPA-7? I'm debating getting a XPA-5 for my Polk LSI HT set-up or waiting for the XPA-7 if it is coming out within the next few months.
Thanks,
Bobby
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 3, 2012 14:53:27 GMT -5
Hey guys, I see that the UPA-700 is being released soon. Was there any word at Emofest about the XPA-7? I'm debating getting a XPA-5 for my Polk LSI HT set-up or waiting for the XPA-7 if it is coming out within the next few months. Thanks, Bobby There was nothing in Marks 'official' report, nor anywhere else I read. I don't think we'll be seeing it until next year. I may pickup a UPA-700 to hold me over, though I'm a little disappointed the power keeps slipping: UPA-200 > 125W x 2, UPA-500 > 80 x 5, UPA-700 > 70 x 7; I'd have thought with the larger chassis they could at least maintain the 80 - but may have been shooting for that (agreeably nice) $500 price point. |
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Post by jamrock on Sept 3, 2012 15:51:21 GMT -5
My UPA-7 is soooooooooo cute and pooooowerrrrful ;D
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 3, 2012 16:12:38 GMT -5
My UPA-7 is soooooooooo cute and pooooowerrrrful ;D Show off !!!  I saw a good deal on one a while back but didn't know what it was, by the time I figured it out it was gone. :~( |
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Post by dean70 on Sept 3, 2012 18:08:59 GMT -5
Lonnie used to say that they could not make an XPA-7 because the wall outlet would be unable to deliver the current demands. I wonder if this XPA-7 will come with duo power cords or will require you use a 230 V/20 A dedicated circuit to avoid sucking the wall outlet dry during highly dynamic passages. It will be interesting to see what little tricks Lonnie has incorporated into the new XPA-7 to overcome this potential problem. I cant see this being the case. When you look and an XPA-5 and XPA-2 together it adds up to 3000w max power consumption, which is 13a @ 230v. |
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Post by jamrock on Sept 3, 2012 18:24:01 GMT -5
Lonnie used to say that they could not make an XPA-7 because the wall outlet would be unable to deliver the current demands. I wonder if this XPA-7 will come with duo power cords or will require you use a 230 V/20 A dedicated circuit to avoid sucking the wall outlet dry during highly dynamic passages. It will be interesting to see what little tricks Lonnie has incorporated into the new XPA-7 to overcome this potential problem. I cant see this being the case. When you look and an XPA-5 and XPA-2 together it adds up to 3000w max power consumption, which is 13a @ 230v. Lonnie must be smoking some potted plants. If they have the XPR-5 @ 400 wpc, they surely can make the XPA-7 at 250 wpc. Both are best used with a 20A receptacle. What is the big deal? |
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Post by garbulky on Sept 3, 2012 18:28:41 GMT -5
20 A receptacle requirement. It cuts off most of the consumer base right there. Not many want to go mucking about in the walls and electricians for an amp.
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Post by jamrock on Sept 3, 2012 18:35:12 GMT -5
20 A receptacle requirement. It cuts off most of the consumer base right there. Not many want to go mucking about in the walls and electricians for an amp. So how do you explain the XPR-5. It too needs a 20a line. In fact, an XPA-7 @ 250 wpc would be easily accommodated on a 15a line. maximum draw for a 15a line is 1800 VA. The XPA-7 would 1750 VA. Let's build the darn thing ;D |
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Post by klinemj on Sept 3, 2012 18:43:22 GMT -5
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 3, 2012 18:52:09 GMT -5
20 A receptacle requirement. It cuts off most of the consumer base right there. Not many want to go mucking about in the walls and electricians for an amp. Well we know there are several here who are interested, other vendors have 200 x 7 amps, you don't have to use a 20 amp circuit, and they decided it was ok for the XMR-5 (though it did confuse a few). Edit XPR-5. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 3, 2012 18:58:36 GMT -5
20 A receptacle requirement. It cuts off most of the consumer base right there. Not many want to go mucking about in the walls and electricians for an amp. So how do you explain the XPR-5. It too needs a 20a line. In fact, an XPA-7 @ 250 wpc would be easily accommodated on a 15a line. maximum draw for a 15a line is 1800 VA. The XPA-7 would 1750 VA. Let's build the darn thing ;D Isn't it actually expected at 200W x 7, or you're just being generous for example sake? I agree let's have it. |
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Post by jamrock on Sept 3, 2012 18:59:48 GMT -5
The XPA-7 would be the perfect match for the XMC-1. This combo competes directly with the high-end AVRs priced at approx $3,500.00 and above. Now I feel guaranteed that the XPA-7 (promised by Dan) is a reality that will be released in conjunction with the XMC-1 or shortly thereafter. I'm in the market and so will many others. Well Emo?
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Post by dragonV on Sept 3, 2012 19:02:28 GMT -5
Was really hoping for news of the XPA-7 being close to launch at emofest.
Pity, guess it is a long way down the list of pending releases.
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Post by garbulky on Sept 3, 2012 19:05:21 GMT -5
20 A receptacle requirement. It cuts off most of the consumer base right there. Not many want to go mucking about in the walls and electricians for an amp. So how do you explain the XPR-5. It too needs a 20a line. In fact, an XPA-7 @ 250 wpc would be easily accommodated on a 15a line. maximum draw for a 15a line is 1800 VA. The XPA-7 would 1750 VA. Let's build the darn thing ;D Jam: I think it would be great to offer the xpa-7 for consumers but I don't think it's financially viable for emotiva. I think the same applies for the xpr-5. The majority of the customer base is not the people on this forum, they're just regular people that want the thing to work and sound good and not be too much hassle. Even with a dual plug option, the idea of an extension cord across the room is a turn-off to me, (but I would do it). I think when you go 20 A you cut off at least half to 80% of your consumer base and I feel I'm being very optimistic here. As for the XPA-7, that power requirement is assuming 100% efficiency for the XPA-7 unless I got my technical stuff wrong so it would probably need something one step up from the regular receptacle if driven at maximum. |
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