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Post by Pauly on Jun 7, 2012 10:13:04 GMT -5
"The ability of Emotiva to produce high quality products at more than fair prices has been proven many times over."
That's a good point, borzell. I guess I wouldn't be surprised if Emo pulls it off, and the Tact software in the XMC turns out to be the best thing since sliced bread. I still have confidence in them. I am a faithful (and happy) UMC owner after all. I'm not trying to be a downer and dis Emo at all. I hope that's not how I sounded in my post. I am very excited about the XMC, and I'm sure it's going to be a great unit no matter how Tact is implemented.
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Post by baldrick on Jun 8, 2012 12:14:12 GMT -5
The XMC-1 will not have "full TACT" it will be more like a “consumer grade”. It will give room curve and some preset room curves. Consumers will be able to make small corrections to the signal but will not have full access to the system.
The Sherbourn PT7030 which is very similiar to the XMC-1 will have Pro Version of TACT.
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Post by bobcel on Jun 8, 2012 12:52:29 GMT -5
Really....? Where is that info located. I read a little blurb, mentions Discrete multichannel parametric EQ for all channels but no mention of TACT specifically. thanks
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Post by baldrick on Jun 8, 2012 13:03:57 GMT -5
I got the info from the European distributor of Sherbourn when I asked if Sherbourn 7030 and XMC-1 was infact more or less the same unit... they have much in common but also many differences.
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Post by jamrock on Jun 8, 2012 16:33:30 GMT -5
The XMC-1 will not have "full TACT" it will be more like a “consumer grade”. It will give room curve and some preset room curves. Consumers will be able to make small corrections to the signal but will not have full access to the system. The Sherbourn PT7030 which is very similiar to the XMC-1 will have Pro Version of TACT. There are several systems with a Pro & Consumer versions. So frigging what? You made is sound as if the consumer version is a bad thing. Have your buddy ever listened to and made a blind listening test comparison of both? Ask him & let us know. Much appreciated ;D
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Post by Mike Ronesia on Jun 8, 2012 16:58:08 GMT -5
The XMC-1 will not have "full TACT" it will be more like a “consumer grade”. It will give room curve and some preset room curves. Consumers will be able to make small corrections to the signal but will not have full access to the system. The Sherbourn PT7030 which is very similiar to the XMC-1 will have Pro Version of TACT. There are several systems with a Pro & Consumer versions. So frigging what? You made is sound as if the consumer version is a bad thing. Have your buddy ever listened to and made a blind listening test comparison of both? Ask him & let us know. Much appreciated ;D You seem defensive. I didn't get that at all. He just stated that he had heard from a source that the XMC will have a less robust version which makes sense at its price point. I think we've all been aware for some time it would not come with the full version. I'm sure whatever it comes with will be enough to make most rooms sound amazing. ;D
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Post by fdzombiedawg on Jun 9, 2012 5:32:12 GMT -5
What exactly are we "missing". I found this from Sound and Vision Mag:
"Setup should be made simple by the onboard TacT® TCS 3e Theater Dynamic Room Correction system. You'll also find level, distance, and EQ controls for both subwoofer channels, as well as summed LFE. Manual control is also offered for a wide range of settings: independent crossover frequencies can be set for center, front, surround, rear, and subwoofer channels; channel-independent or global multi-band parametric equalization can be applied; and variable EQ frequency and crossover slope rates by channel groupings. Advanced settings are accessible via a desktop interface via the XMC-1’s back-panel Ethernet control port"
In theory, with even a less extensive TACT program, won't these extensive adjustment options be able to "talk" with the TACT system to adjust the curves, and make the adjustments on the fly with increased volume. Is that not TACT?
I am not familiar with the program/hardware as others although would love to hear your inputs.
So its variable,
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Post by klinemj on Jun 9, 2012 7:17:01 GMT -5
I really do look forward to hearing the XMC...with and without TacT turned on. I suspect TacT will make music sound a bit more vibrant at low volumes and reduce my tendency to want to crank it up, but then not make it overly intense once cranked to a higher dB level.
Anticipation...
Mark
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Post by qaz on Jun 9, 2012 8:13:11 GMT -5
does the xmc has a video component out? none that I can see on the product page..
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Post by klinemj on Jun 9, 2012 8:38:53 GMT -5
The last I knew, no...it was not going to support "legacy" video...input or output.
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Post by bootman on Jun 9, 2012 8:48:25 GMT -5
What exactly are we "missing". I found this from Sound and Vision Mag: "Setup should be made simple by the onboard TacT® TCS 3e Theater Dynamic Room Correction system. You'll also find level, distance, and EQ controls for both subwoofer channels, as well as summed LFE. Manual control is also offered for a wide range of settings: independent crossover frequencies can be set for center, front, surround, rear, and subwoofer channels; channel-independent or global multi-band parametric equalization can be applied; and variable EQ frequency and crossover slope rates by channel groupings. Advanced settings are accessible via a desktop interface via the XMC-1’s back-panel Ethernet control port" In theory, with even a less extensive TACT program, won't these extensive adjustment options be able to "talk" with the TACT system to adjust the curves, and make the adjustments on the fly with increased volume. Is that not TACT? I am not familiar with the program/hardware as others although would love to hear your inputs. So its variable, Isn't this already more flexible than current competing solutions? If this is what we get, it sounds good to me. Am I missing something?
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Post by LCSeminole on Jun 9, 2012 8:57:07 GMT -5
does the xmc has a video component out? none that I can see on the product page.. I do believe you're correct. With the AACS licensing authority enforcing their "Analog Sunset" provision on manufacturers that produce Blu-ray players why even bother with component video any longer. Yes I know the end user that still uses component suffers, but manufacturers hands are now being forced and with component video now being limited to 480i/576i what's the use. I believe Big Dan and company have made the right move to go with an all digital video based processor and placing emphasis on the remaining aspects of the XMC-1 design.
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Post by qaz on Jun 9, 2012 8:58:20 GMT -5
The last I knew, no...it was not going to support "legacy" video...input or output. So there is only one video output and that is the single HDMI out? That means I shud look into a video or HDMI switcher for video?
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Post by LCSeminole on Jun 9, 2012 9:01:07 GMT -5
The last I knew, no...it was not going to support "legacy" video...input or output. So there is only one video output and that is the single HDMI out? That means I shud look into a video or HDMI switcher for video? If you still have legacy sources that use these video outputs yes, but you'll only be getting 480i/576i.
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Post by jamrock on Jun 9, 2012 10:02:24 GMT -5
There are several hdmi to component solutions available. I believe that Dan mentioned those solutions in the exclusive XMC-1 podcast
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Post by qaz on Jun 9, 2012 10:34:27 GMT -5
My concern is the video output. I need min 2 video out. If the xmc has 1 HDMI out & also have 1 component out, I can live with that. But if the only video output is through that single HDMI out, that means I can only use the xmc for audio portion and find separate solution for video signals.
Jamrock, which is the exclusive xmc podcast?
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Post by jamrock on Jun 9, 2012 10:45:41 GMT -5
My concern is the video output. I need min 2 video out. If the xmc has 1 HDMI out & also have 1 component out, I can live with that. But if the only video output is through that single HDMI out, that means I can only use the xmc for audio portion and find separate solution for video signals. Jamrock, which is the exclusive xmc podcast? The podcast of 01/27/12. Go to the product page. Clikc news & reviews, then click podcasts.
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Post by klinemj on Jun 9, 2012 10:46:03 GMT -5
So far, unless they change their plan - it's 1 video out...1 HDMI. Many have asked for 2 HDMI but 1 keeps getting shown.
On the podcast...it was either January or March that was XMC-exclusive.
Mark
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Post by paintedklown on Jun 9, 2012 10:55:58 GMT -5
does the xmc has a video component out? none that I can see on the product page.. I do believe you're correct. With the AACS licensing authority enforcing their "Analog Sunset" provision on manufacturers that produce Blu-ray players why even bother with component video any longer. Yes I know the end user that still uses component suffers, but manufacturers hands are now being forced and with component video now being limited to 480i/576i what's the use. I believe Big Dan and company have made the right move to go with an all digital video based processor and placing emphasis on the remaining aspects of the XMC-1 design. I kind of hate to say it, but this was a bit of a "turn off" for me personally. I still love my old VHS VCR (it's great for taping stuff from Netflix, and the satellite DVR), and wouldn't mind dabbling in laserdiscs for some cheap (and nostalgic) entertainment. With my Yamaha RX-V667, I can run my VCRs analog outputs into it, and everything comes out of the HDMI cable to my T.V. or projector. It's simple video switching, and you can select to have the receiver to scale the video to HD, although the results are less than spectacular. I wish there were at least a few legacy video inputs on the XMC, but as you stated the "analog sunset" (coupled with a sharp decline in analog video sources) have forced manufacturers to make these kind of design decisions...such is life I suppose.
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Post by jamrock on Jun 9, 2012 11:02:54 GMT -5
There are component & composite to hdmi cables available. The XMC-1 will have 7 hdmi inputs so you are more than covered. You'll just have to buy a couple cables. Stop being so nervous ;D
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