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Post by monkumonku on Sept 28, 2012 15:42:04 GMT -5
I just ordered an Xref-10 from the super crazy price sale so it should be here next week. There is really only one place it will fit in my setup, which is behind my left front speaker. So the left main will be visually blocking the sub. The sub will be about 8-10" behind it, maybe a wee bit more.
Question: If I face the sub forward then it will be facing the main speaker. What do you think is better, to face it forward or have the sub facing to the left? The equipment rack will be to the right of the sub with not much space between them so I don't think I should face it to the right.
I guess I could try it all three ways and even facing the wall I suppose, and see what sounds best, but I thought I'd pose the question here and get people's opinions on it.
The other sub is on the right side, slightly beyond the right main speaker and thus is not blocked by anything. The other sub is also a down-firing one.
Any thoughts?
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 28, 2012 16:00:22 GMT -5
Because of the long wavelengths the diffraction around the main speaker should make it largely inaudible, but it could cause some resonance in the main cone or cabinet. I might try firing it to the side, that's what worked well for me a few years back, though my subs have since moved. Probably best to try it both ways.
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Post by flamingeye on Sept 28, 2012 16:01:28 GMT -5
Some people say that when they have there sub facing the wall it produces better bass , I haven’t tried it my self but in your case that’s what I would try first
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Post by roadrunner on Sept 28, 2012 16:02:48 GMT -5
I would be inclined to face the sub toward the corner, based upon your placement description. If that results in a muddy sounding bass response I would then face the sub toward the wall. If that still sounds funky I would then move the sub over and stack it on top of your other sub.. Good luck.
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Post by monkumonku on Sept 28, 2012 16:07:12 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies so far. I guess I just need to stop being lazy and actually move the sub and hear for myself. ;D I didn't think of RR's suggestion, to stack it, but I don't think Mrs. Monku will like that too much, especially since the sizes of the two subs are quite different. ;D
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Post by flamingeye on Sept 28, 2012 16:10:35 GMT -5
Staking is a good idea if it so happens that that positions is a sock out
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Post by ansat on Sept 28, 2012 16:14:06 GMT -5
In home theater -- If you have to start thinking vertically... Then you know you have a problem. That said -- not all problems are bad
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Post by monkumonku on Sept 28, 2012 17:22:17 GMT -5
In home theater -- If you have to start thinking vertically... Then you know you have a problem. That said -- not all problems are bad I guess the other thing I could do is sit on it. ;D
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Post by monkumonku on Sept 28, 2012 17:23:26 GMT -5
Staking is a good idea if it so happens that that positions is a sock out I do have a problem with the existing sub location - a big dip in the 50hz region. So stacking might just make it worse...
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Post by Porscheguy on Sept 28, 2012 18:05:22 GMT -5
I think the best placement is on the floor. If you put it on the coffee table Mrs Monku will be angry...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 18:50:36 GMT -5
I think you should try it both ways and hear for yourself what sounds best. Thats the best answer anyone can give.
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Post by The Mad Norseman on Sept 28, 2012 19:02:08 GMT -5
I've heard (no pun intended!) that placing bass traps, or other bass sound absorbing acoustic panels behind subwoofers - especially subwoofers placed in corners - helps tame the low frequency standing waves, etc., true?
(I'm VERY fortunate that Mrs. Mad Norseman agreed to two of these behemoths in her living room - which doubles as our HT, so should probably just be happy with what I've been able to pull off!).
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Post by hemster on Sept 28, 2012 19:27:29 GMT -5
I've heard (no pun intended!) that placing bass traps, or other bass sound absorbing acoustic panels behind subwoofers - especially subwoofers placed in corners - helps tame the low frequency standing waves, etc., true? (I'm VERY fortunate that Mrs. Mad Norseman agreed to two of these behemoths in her living room - which doubles as our HT, so should probably just be happy with what I've been able to pull off!). Bass traps help reduce the boominess that results from corner placement of a sub. If a low frequency standing wave exists, that is because of the room's dimensions (physics dictates this) then movement of the listening position will help some (if that is even possible, we're often left with a compromise in practice). Corners are the worst for bass amplification and bass trapping floor-to-ceiling is quite effective but has a very low WAF!
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Post by The Mad Norseman on Sept 28, 2012 22:10:19 GMT -5
I've heard (no pun intended!) that placing bass traps, or other bass sound absorbing acoustic panels behind subwoofers - especially subwoofers placed in corners - helps tame the low frequency standing waves, etc., true? (I'm VERY fortunate that Mrs. Mad Norseman agreed to two of these behemoths in her living room - which doubles as our HT, so should probably just be happy with what I've been able to pull off!). Bass traps help reduce the boominess that results from corner placement of a sub. If a low frequency standing wave exists, that is because of the room's dimensions (physics dictates this) then movement of the listening position will help some (if that is even possible, we're often left with a compromise in practice). Corners are the worst for bass amplification and bass trapping floor-to-ceiling is quite effective but has a very low WAF! Hemster, Any good bass trap sources/types/sizes/configurations you'd care to steer an insane pink care bear to? Recommendations? And ah yes - the well know 'WAF'. But as I said, I'm *VERY* lucky to have been able to arrange things to the extent that I've already done, but I'm also constantly looking to 'tweak' the sound a little bit better,...always trying to improve!
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Post by monkumonku on Sept 28, 2012 22:50:16 GMT -5
I think you should try it both ways and hear for yourself what sounds best. Thats the best answer anyone can give. I know, but I'm like those people that ask a question on the forum that really should be directing it to Emo. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 22:50:57 GMT -5
My room is full of ats acoustic panels. Very good prices compared to most others on the market.
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Post by hemster on Sept 28, 2012 23:01:59 GMT -5
Bass traps help reduce the boominess that results from corner placement of a sub. If a low frequency standing wave exists, that is because of the room's dimensions (physics dictates this) then movement of the listening position will help some (if that is even possible, we're often left with a compromise in practice). Corners are the worst for bass amplification and bass trapping floor-to-ceiling is quite effective but has a very low WAF! Hemster, Any good bass trap sources/types/sizes/configurations you'd care to steer an insane pink care bear to? Recommendations? And ah yes - the well know 'WAF'. But as I said, I'm *VERY* lucky to have been able to arrange things to the extent that I've already done, but I'm also constantly looking to 'tweak' the sound a little bit better,...always trying to improve! Nate is right with ATS, they're great value. Then there's GK Acoustics and they do room packages including bass traps. These can get pricey.
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Post by ansat on Sept 28, 2012 23:09:19 GMT -5
Hemster, Any good bass trap sources/types/sizes/configurations you'd care to steer an insane pink care bear to? Recommendations? And ah yes - the well know 'WAF'. But as I said, I'm *VERY* lucky to have been able to arrange things to the extent that I've already done, but I'm also constantly looking to 'tweak' the sound a little bit better,...always trying to improve! Nate is right with ATS, they're great value. Then there's GK Acoustics and they do room packages including bass traps. These can get pricey. hard to beat the price if Rockwool. sent from my phone. sorry for the short response. Tony
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Post by hemster on Sept 28, 2012 23:11:29 GMT -5
Nate is right with ATS, they're great value. Then there's GK Acoustics and they do room packages including bass traps. These can get pricey. hard to beat the price if Rockwool. sent from my phone. sorry for the short response. Tony True, but for a bass trap it'll require quite a bit. Those cylindrical bass traps work good in corners as do the triangular ones for corners.
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Post by geebo on Sept 28, 2012 23:45:49 GMT -5
I think your original idea is where I would start. There is a good chance it will fill the 50hz null you spoke of. And the XMC's sub diversity promises to help with exactly that.
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