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Post by audiobill on Apr 10, 2018 18:34:51 GMT -5
Sounds to me like you’re ready to abandon “specs” and trust your senses!!!!
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Post by brubacca on Apr 10, 2018 18:47:15 GMT -5
Assuming the SimAudio Moon product is not worth the $2,100 price is like assuming that the Emotiva can't sound good for $400. Of coarse, If I read your post wrong I'll apologize right here and now. |
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Post by garbulky on Apr 10, 2018 19:42:29 GMT -5
Assuming the SimAudio Moon product is not worth the $2,100 price is like assuming that the Emotiva can't sound good for $400. Of coarse, If I read your post wrong I'll apologize right here and now. No thats what I meant. I think looks are bumping up the price. |
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Post by garbulky on Apr 10, 2018 22:31:35 GMT -5
Banjo mandolin uke guitar....I liked it
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Post by garbulky on Apr 12, 2018 0:15:39 GMT -5
Lexi doing what she does!
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Post by dsonyay on Apr 13, 2018 8:13:10 GMT -5
Banjo mandolin uke guitar....I liked it I really like them too. The fiddle player was with Nickle Creek. They played Tiny Desk as well. The blonde with short hair played for another group as well (crooked still?).. And the one with long hair won a grammy a little while back for album of the year (folk?) I stream them quite a bit.. Check out the cover they do of an Adele song. It's rich in harmony |
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Post by garbulky on Apr 17, 2018 1:01:46 GMT -5
I'll just leave this here. Uh its got a harp in it.
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Post by garbulky on Apr 17, 2018 9:45:20 GMT -5
For space buffs:
When we are sitting still we are moving at tremendous speed - 1000 miles per hour of the earth's rotation. The earth (and us) is moving around the sun at 67,000 miles per hour. The moon moves at over 2000 miles per hour just orbiting around earth. Mars moves at 87000 miles per hour. The Comet 67p that Rosetta Philae landed on moves at 84,000 miles per hour.
When we make it in to space how do we overcome our own speed and match another objects speed when we try to land on it?
Like
The moon?
Mars?
The asteroid that Rosae landed on?
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Post by Boomzilla on Apr 17, 2018 10:14:40 GMT -5
By burning LOTS of fossil-fuel energy to match speeds.
Until we find better non-fossil-fuel, renewable sources of energy. Fusion anyone?
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Post by garbulky on Apr 17, 2018 10:57:23 GMT -5
By burning LOTS of fossil-fuel energy to match speeds. Until we find better non-fossil-fuel, renewable sources of energy. Fusion anyone? Till we acheive it, astronaughts can always listen to the Emotiva Fusion.  |
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Post by garbulky on Apr 18, 2018 23:39:45 GMT -5
Boomzilla audiobillThis is a review of the Denon DCD 660 vs the DC-1.  This was a/b'd using the DC-1's analog preamp. This is a late 80's CD player that uses a true multibit DAC the PCM 61p which I don't think is made anymore. It's an 18 bit DAC. Unfrotunately age has taken its toll on the mechanical parts of the CD transport mechanism but some coaxing did allow it to play a Beatles CD. Well the first thing is that you know what, this is from the late 80's and I'm listening to a fantastic sounding DC-1 DAC at least 30 years later. Well what's changed? Surprisingly not as much you would think. But also the late 80's did stuff modern dacs can't quite manage. I tried to plug in the spdif digital cox in to the Denon as well so I could a/b it with the DC-1 until I realized.....oh wait, there is no digital out. External DACs didn't exist. I guess <ahem> MIKE MOFFAT of Schiit and Theta had yet to come out and produce the world's first external consumer DAC! So since the late 80's didn't have their Schiit in place, there was no digital outputs available. (Thank you, I'll be here all night.) The first thing that stands out is that true multibit DOES have a different sound to it. It's in the timing. Things appear instantaneously. While with the DC-1 and other DS DACs I've heard there is a subtle haze. And things aren't quite as rock solid in space. Your brain has a harder time placing the instruments in space "exactly." Bass impacts and mid range impacts are harder on the Denon they feel timed better. While on the DC-1 it's like the bass impact and a simultaneous music note happens just a hair apart, "smearing" things just a bit timewise. Drums with the Beatles were better reproduced with the Denon but the cymbals were just a bit too harsh. Having said that, in its current stone cold state, the Denon multibit dac is a little bit on the harsh side of treble. So I doubt I'll be able to call it a keeper unit. The Gungnir multibit is probably a superior showing for multibit DACs. However listening to this one makes me understand how multibit dacs like the Gungnir Multibit did sound different. I don't think I fully appreciated it - the timing ability of the Gungnir Multibit. I find myself questioning myself. How can a dac have better timing than another? These clocks are incredibly precise nowadays. There's no way your ear could hear a difference. But there it is. There is a timing difference. This ability is something I haven't heard from delta sigma DACs. One thing I will conceded is that, I wonder if the slightly harsh treble is playing a part in this perception of "timing." So the jury is still out, but it does make me look at audio from a new perspective. Just like with the Gungnir playing some classical music makes violin vibrato stand out in ways that the DC-1 wasn't able to do. It's weird because the sound is the same. But yet it's different. More solid. The instruments expressions come across more clearly in time somehow. Anyway, this thing does a really nice job with violins, its constantly changing dynamics on the tone of violins is something that this Denon just does without hestations. I enjoyed my time with the Denon. Unfortunately its limitation as being a pure CD player with some age related issues means I probably won't be able to use it. But it certainly has an allure to its sound. I suppose I'm going to have to save up for a Ygdrassil. Something tells me I'm just putting off the inevitable.
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Post by garbulky on Apr 19, 2018 0:07:27 GMT -5
Sigh...I think I've been bitten by the multibit bug. I just listened to the entire classical CD because of how it sounded so involving. Something I almost never do. There's something about the speed and naturalness this CD player reproduces things.
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Post by novisnick on Apr 19, 2018 0:39:44 GMT -5
One noe to remember and take into account garbulky , CDs fom that era wee recorded with different emphasis when recording. Priorities were much different hen recordings of today. Remember he loudness wars? Wait, strike that! Remember reading about the loudness wars? LOL Just wanted to remind you that things are different then they once were,,,,,,,and yet some are not. |
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Post by audiobill on Apr 19, 2018 5:18:57 GMT -5
Good report, Gar. I've finished one of the Audio Note 4.1 dacs I'm building (Tube rectification, tube regulation, multibit, NOS, transformer coupled at I/V stage AND at the output stage, tube output stage) Lots of fun design going on here, and the parts quality is over the moon. 29 pounds of sonic goodness. I haven't been able to write a review yet because this dac won't let me up from my listening chair. I know Keith is wedded to "modern" designs, but I wish all of you could hear this. www.ankaudiokits.com/Non-Oversampling-Valve-Rectified-Tube-DAC.html |
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Post by audiobill on Apr 19, 2018 7:03:50 GMT -5
Assuming the SimAudio Moon product is not worth the $2,100 price is like assuming that the Emotiva can't sound good for $400. Of coarse, If I read your post wrong I'll apologize right here and now. No thats what I meant. I think looks are bumping up the price. Imo, it's so important to consider parts and build quality as well as looks. |
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Post by pedrocols on Apr 19, 2018 11:34:56 GMT -5
The reviewer stated that "at this price point...compromises?" If you ask me over 2k is a lot of money! I do not see the value here unless I am too cheapo.
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Post by Boomzilla on Apr 19, 2018 14:44:03 GMT -5
The reviewer stated that "at this price point...compromises?" If you ask me over 2k is a lot of money! I do not see the value here unless I am too cheapo. There are compromises at EVERY price point. Seems odd, but I think it's true. The trick is to compromise on things that DON'T AFFECT THE SOUND. If you can do that, then you can get virtually "next-to-no-compromise" sound quality at a lesser price. Some companies are better at that game than others. And the other thing to remember is that after a certain point, one is paying more and more for less and less audible improvement. At that level, the listener's taste (and desire to show that they can send the money) counts for more than the actual sonic differences. |
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Post by garbulky on Apr 19, 2018 20:02:16 GMT -5
Denon DCD 660 follow up. So you know how sometimes things just seem to click? Reading that ladder dacs can take time for the resistors to warm up to stable temperature I decided to turn this on and leave a generic classical guitar CD playing on mute to "warm things up". I was going to lsiten to it via the analog preamp input on the DC-1 to make sure it played before muting it. 15 minutes later, no such luck. This CD player sounds very good. I can't tear myself away. Can't believe this is using a DAC from the 1980's!! Get outa here.
I remember what DAC chipss sounded like in the 90's and early 2000's using all sorts of tech. This CD player puts them to shame.
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Post by Boomzilla on Apr 19, 2018 21:08:19 GMT -5
$5 at a yard sale...
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Post by garbulky on Apr 20, 2018 11:39:37 GMT -5
Good report, Gar. I've finished one of the Audio Note 4.1 dacs I'm building (Tube rectification, tube regulation, multibit, NOS, transformer coupled at I/V stage AND at the output stage, tube output stage) Lots of fun design going on here, and the parts quality is over the moon. 29 pounds of sonic goodness. I haven't been able to write a review yet because this dac won't let me up from my listening chair. I know Keith is wedded to "modern" designs, but I wish all of you could hear this. www.ankaudiokits.com/Non-Oversampling-Valve-Rectified-Tube-DAC.htmlI'll be looking forward to your review! |
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