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Post by dougc on Feb 16, 2013 18:11:25 GMT -5
I just got the UPA-700 ordered a few days ago. Bear in mind that the XPA-3 has a additional 3dB added to the gain stage over the XPA-200 and UPA series gear. Depends what the user is running for speakers and efficiency, as well as use. If you want it super loud and are not concerned about clarity, go for the higher gain stage. Same scenario with non efficient speakers. I had called Emotiva and asked some questions in the past, before I had ordered the XPA-200, and was advised to not get the XPA-2 for my fronts, after the guy looked up what speakers I had. He told me that with the patented design on the Infinity Primus 362 model, that he would go with a lower gain stage due to the frequency response accuracy in the tweeters and how efficient the speakers were (or it might give undesirable distortion in the tweeter). He did not upsell me, and told me that the XPA-200 would be my best choice. Go with what your use is, there is a good piece of a gear for certain uses and not other uses. Hopefully I did not open a can of worms in your mind. At first you did open up a can of worms, untill I read it a couple of times. I still got the cobbwebs going on from last nights partying. I am so bummed. I just called Emotiva to order the UPA 700 and to try to figure out why I cant get rid of all the empty space under my posts. Just to find out their closed on the weekends. That sucks . I guess I have to wait till Monday.I think I'll be happy with the 700 like I said I am not after ear bleeding loudness. I am after sound Quality. My supposed 100 x 5 watt reciever (and we all know what the real wattage is 35-40 maybe) has already had the cops called on me a few times. Let me know what you think of the 700 when you get it.Mine will probably in route at the time.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Feb 16, 2013 18:24:51 GMT -5
I just called Emotiva to order the UPA 700 and to try to figure out why I cant get rid of all the empty space under my posts. Just to find out their closed on the weekends. That sucks . I guess I have to wait till Monday. Well the website is open on the weekend so you can get your order in right now! (Also the post above doesn't have all the white space you had in the other thread, so maybe you fixed it)
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Post by dougc on Feb 16, 2013 18:37:44 GMT -5
Are you in the slammer by any chance? ( ;D ;D ;D) Hello from Issyquah. My son was there a few yeary ago. Now he's in Clark County (Vancouver) jail. ;D ;D
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Post by dougc on Feb 16, 2013 18:44:42 GMT -5
I just called Emotiva to order the UPA 700 and to try to figure out why I cant get rid of all the empty space under my posts. Just to find out their closed on the weekends. That sucks . I guess I have to wait till Monday. Well the website is open on the weekend so you can get your order in right now! (Also the post above doesn't have all the white space you had in the other thread, so maybe you fixed it) Hopefully its fixed. I thought I had it fixed a couple weeks ago then it came back. Maybe I'll try online.
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Post by dougc on Feb 16, 2013 19:07:00 GMT -5
Just placed my order.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2013 0:48:14 GMT -5
dougc, I will definitely let you know how it sounds in comparison to the Denon AVR 3312CI. For the moment, the XPA-200 runs my front left and right, and will stay there, with the UPA-700 powering the 5 other speakers that are currently on the Denon. The extra 2 channels I could use for something later on, but mainly I chose the 700 over the 500 for the transformer and capacitance. The 700 will arrive Wednesday and will try to give you an update soon after. The xpa-200 has been such a game changing addition as is. @chuckienut, HAHA no I am not writing from a cell at the moment...lord knows I might try some shock therapy if needed using computer parts in there if it was even possible :b. Don't worry, a few people escape every once in a while. lol.
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Post by dougc on Feb 17, 2013 19:41:59 GMT -5
dougc, I will definitely let you know how it sounds in comparison to the Denon AVR 3312CI. For the moment, the XPA-200 runs my front left and right, and will stay there, with the UPA-700 powering the 5 other speakers that are currently on the Denon. The extra 2 channels I could use for something later on, but mainly I chose the 700 over the 500 for the transformer and capacitance. The 700 will arrive Wednesday and will try to give you an update soon after. The xpa-200 has been such a game changing addition as is. Wednesday? when did you order it? I was hopeing to have mine by Wed or Thurs. @chuckienut, HAHA no I am not writing from a cell at the moment...lord knows I might try some shock therapy if needed using computer parts in there if it was even possible :b. Don't worry, a few people escape every once in a while. lol.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2013 13:48:40 GMT -5
dougc. Ordered on the 13th, shipped out on the 14th with tracking. Estimated arrival is Wednesday the 20th. Fedex is usually here by 1 or 2 pm, sometimes way before that. I will still leave a review for you as well as anyone else who might be interested in some Emotiva users truthful opinions. Not sure how to get notifications on thread updates yet. lol.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2013 14:00:31 GMT -5
The notifications I figured out on my settings, I will be able to respond pretty dang fast now!
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Post by dougc on Feb 18, 2013 23:13:01 GMT -5
dougc. Ordered on the 13th, shipped out on the 14th with tracking. Estimated arrival is Wednesday the 20th. Fedex is usually here by 1 or 2 pm, sometimes way before that. I will still leave a review for you as well as anyone else who might be interested in some Emotiva users truthful opinions. Not sure how to get notifications on thread updates yet. lol. So i suspect I should recieve mine around Fri. or Sat.at the latest. Be looking forward to reading it. It looks like we may have to start the UPA 700 user review section. Hopefully others will follow.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2013 1:06:29 GMT -5
Absolutely. I would figure Saturday or Monday for your shipment.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 16:54:16 GMT -5
I got the unit. It is working really well on the channels that are working without fuss. It sounds a ton better than the denon 3312ci output terminals. I did however have another issue on the first unit. I have an xpa-200 and this upa-700. When I got the XPA-200, it worked for about two weeks, and then it just decided it would shut off at startup, i got a factory new replacement that was technician tested. It worked and has been completely great. The upa-700 has hum and buzz on channel 2 and 3, and if any speaker is plugged into there, it creates it amongst every channel. Luckily since i only needed 5 channels for now, it is working fine from other channels. I have called and got a to be technician checked factory new replacement to be sent out. They pay shipping back, the package arrives to me by fedex and i slap the label from them on the outside of the box, and write an rma number and just drop it off at a fedex location for free minus gasoline charges. :S otherwise it is sounding great and will give a better response on quality in a few hours or so, have to channel trim it out and what not.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 20:37:34 GMT -5
I got the dB trim levels set with help of a dB meter. The UPA-700 sounds really good in conjuction with the XPA-200 as a front L and R amp. I run my computer as my main component, blurays running from it with actual hdmi bitstream of dts-hd ma and dolby true-hd. For some reason my browser runs youtube videos and audio in some artificial above 2ch playback, and immediately I could tell how much better vocals and dynamics were even in medium quality videos. The center channel was really clear sounding. It was something that drove me nuts when the center was ran by the denon, with the fronts on the xpa-200. I would tend to go to stereo mode to override the annoyance. I played some pc games in 5.1, vocals were really clean from the sides and rears (processing to make rear channels from the 5.1 signal.) Gunshots from the center channel in games, was cutting through deep and clean, with great clarity. The denon 3312ci was lacking in bass compared to the denon 1910 i used to have, it was almost flat with the 3312 :S. I ran some 5.1 audio files and things were in tune, and sounding great all over, translucent, almost forgot that speakers were around me...atmospheric. I had gotten that from just the xpa-200 when i got it earlier on. I am completely beyond happy with the results of audio performance again, since the first time with the xpa-200. I will have this issue with the upa-700 squared away. If you seem to have a hum issue, or want to test what I did, i literally took the positive speaker cable only, and touched it to each channel one at a time while the unit was on, to see which channels were forcing a hum onto all other channels. My case was that ch 2 and ch3 were messing the entire thing up, so i had to run them on a different channel, until the factory new replacement comes.
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Post by dougc on Feb 20, 2013 21:34:08 GMT -5
I'm glad you went into so much detail about the sound quality, I feel much better. Becuase I was starting to think really negative about quality control. On a manufacturimg stand point. I am running my 2 subs (L/R) off of a Peavey IPR 1600 class D amp. When I first got it I had the exact same problems as you had with your xpa-200. 3 amps latter and 4 months later without an amp finally resolved. Hopefully I won't have the same issues as you. As far as the sound quality wise though I am excited.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 21:52:14 GMT -5
Yes I wish you better luck than I had haha. It still was completely worth it to me, as long as all continues to work greatly after the rma. There are quite a few people that hop forums and act like it is all about wattage, but it really is not. Most advertised wattage is the last thing that I worry about unless I was to have had inefficient speakers. I have fairly efficient speakers, I think I am 91-93dB as a total range of my most efficient to least efficient in the infinity primus matching 7.1 that I have running. I suspect you will have a pretty darn big smile on your face given that everything works correctly. It is good that you went with the UPA-700 even when not using all 7ch, getting you some extra transformer and capacitance over the model UPA-500. I cannot imagine going back to the Denon 1910 or 3312ci for speaker use, only audio processing. I went from having decent bass and meh highs with the 1910, the 3312 has much better highs than the 1910, but you can almost forget about having bass, its pretty dry. The Emotiva amps completely minimized things that were bothering me during highly compressed rock music or guitar distortion in the high frequency range, it was like scratchy, and not so much now. I feel pulled into the speakers atmosphere rather than trying to avoid distortion and sounds that I did not like in the past. Haha, I bet you will go and play your movies all over again, and listen to music over again, for a few weeks until you relax with it . I would love to hear what your impressions are when you get yours.
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Post by dougc on Feb 21, 2013 23:02:28 GMT -5
I am feeling totally inspired!!! But even with that I had a crappy day at work and sick on top of that. I'll rply tomarrow.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2013 6:15:59 GMT -5
Hope you feel better. Yeah I am totally loving the UPA-700, already have a tracking number on the rma unit. Running the good 5chs atm without issue, its just that if I use the either of the 2 bad channels, it buzzes every channel at that point from the speakers. Well, between changing speaker placement, putting feet on every speaker to make sure it was off of the floor, keeping speakers a few feet from the walls, placing them as close to equal distance from my position as possible, to spl meter channel leveling, FO NOMINAL hahahah . I easily feel comfortable saying that between that and the definite help by addition of the Emotiva amps, my system sounds completely different in every aspect, bass, mids, highs, sound stage, dynamics, and most of all, sounds like nothing I would have expected from my first use of these speakers...completely awesome! I have zero wants to change speakers or delve into saving money to purchase anything else for a while. I will just have to stay up to date with pc audio card audio formats and audio processor formats...thats about it
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Post by dougc on Feb 24, 2013 13:27:14 GMT -5
Well I got my UPA 700 Fri night, all I can say is,"OH MY GOD"!!! ;D. This thing is frickin incredible. I was up till 2am playing diff. CD's etc. I am totally hearing things I never heard before. It's like having a whole new speaker system. About a month ago I did a post on here,"UPA 700 vs 12yr Yamaha reciever,real difference". Something like that. Anyway in that post I had said how I am mid and hi range deaf approx.50%. From being a Cabinet/ Custom furniture builder for the last 30+ yrs.and never wearing ear plugs. Anyway I talked about my custom homemade speakers and useing the BG mids and tweeters (planar/ ribbon). Anyone who has followed reviews on BG speakers (Home Theater and a couple others)all state how scary and incredibly lifelike their speakers are. Even though my speakers did suceed at blowing away my Paradigms I did not hear what the reviews were saying (scary lifelike, incredibly realistic). Then I hooked up my Carver to my mains as a smile came across my face (my wifes too) big improvement, but still not hearing it. And let me say that Carver TFM is no slouch at 380 wpch. A few people responded that I might try some EQ'ing. Been there done that, from my passive crossovers to active 12 band eq. Eq'ing worked on some music but not on movies. Then I got this amp. WOW scary lifelike/ incredibly realistic. I hear it now. I put on a Queenrych's CD (the best of) can't recall the name of the song.But anyway the song starts out with the guitar, drums, and bass jumping around the room from speaker to speaker. In the mean time Jeff Tate is doing his famous high pitch screem. It was like Jeff was standing right in front of me. I felt compelled to reach out and start choking him before he shattered my windows. Gotta go Datona 500 is starting. More latter
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 16:40:37 GMT -5
That is awesome how much stuff you have done "do it yourself" wise. Pretty cool! If you have a sub and are running 5.1, you can try using a crossover with your audio processor, to save the speakers from hitting low frequencies below their handling, leaving you with much more wattage and cleanliness over a wobbly woofer....leaving the sub on its own power source to handle those...they are supposedly non-directional frequencies. I can hear the location of my sub just barely. Luckily the Denon 3312CI has full range if I am running 2ch direct or Stereo, and anything above 2ch sets crossovers, per set. So I have diff hz crossovers on sides/rears/fronts/center, which is freaking sweet to have that ability over one x-over for all channels. I am really glad that you are impressed. I am completely enjoying my configuration here as well. I have absolutely been enjoying the immersive experience
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Post by dougc on Feb 24, 2013 22:43:00 GMT -5
That is awesome how much stuff you have done "do it yourself" wise. Pretty cool! If you have a sub and are running 5.1, you can try using a crossover with your audio processor, to save the speakers from hitting low frequencies below their handling, leaving you with much more wattage and cleanliness over a wobbly woofer....leaving the sub on its own power source to handle those...they are supposedly non-directional frequencies. I can hear the location of my sub just barely. Luckily the Denon 3312CI has full range if I am running 2ch direct or Stereo, and anything above 2ch sets crossovers, per set. So I have diff hz crossovers on sides/rears/fronts/center, which is freaking sweet to have that ability over one x-over for all channels. I am really glad that you are impressed. I am completely enjoying my configuration here as well. I have absolutely been enjoying the immersive experience I am running 2 custom homemade subs L/R. Each one consting of 1 Dayton Reference series 12" sub and 1 Peerless XLS 12" passive radiator. These are enclosed in 3/4in MDF and 1" solid cherry around that. Each enclosure has a 2x5 port 48" long acting as a transmission line tuned to 15hz.From my reciever it runs to a Audio Control active subwoofer x-over (24db). That runs to a Peavey IPR 1600 amp (class D) 600wpc@4 ohm. I am loving this amp and I have'nt even had the time to dial it in yet. Yesterday I had to spend my day going and buying 2 new toilets and installing them in my house. Hung over as hell from the night before partying with my wife and new amp (new wife) it was like a 3 some lol. Gotta go, talk later. Doug C.
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