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Post by faceste on Apr 6, 2013 0:21:06 GMT -5
Also a receiver's analog preamp section usually does not have anywhere near the performance of a pre/pro analog section and most receiver's put out less than 2V on there preamp outputs which might not be enough to drive a power amp with low gain to its full potential.
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Post by hemster on Apr 6, 2013 0:33:29 GMT -5
Also a receiver's analog preamp section usually does not have anywhere near the performance of a pre/pro analog section and most receiver's put out less than 2V on there preamp outputs which might not be enough to drive a power amp with low gain to its full potential. Most receivers output about 1V from their RCA outputs. Some have XLR outputs that push 2V. AFAIK, Marantz does 1.2 from RCA and 2.4 from XLR. Yamaha is about 1V RCA. Onkyo is < 1V RCA. Some people have needed voltage boosters for low-gain amps. |
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Post by faceste on Apr 6, 2013 0:41:03 GMT -5
How many Volts does the UMC 200 put out?
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Post by hemster on Apr 6, 2013 0:50:38 GMT -5
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Post by jevans64 on Apr 7, 2013 20:49:39 GMT -5
I'm not sure about everyone else in this thread, but I already had a receiver when I decided to add an external amp and more speakers. I wasn't going to toss out a perfectly-good $5500 Denon AVR when I could just add an amp to it and stretch its life out a little bit longer. I'm already beyond 7.x surround sound so that severely limits my choices for pre-pros. Only the Marantz AV8801 comes to mind ( at an AVR-like price ) as far as a pre-pro with 11.x and Audyssey Room Correction.
It certainly depends on what your ultimate goals are and what features you want. It wouldn't be wise for anyone to toss out a top-tier AVR that is a couple of years old for only a miniscule gain in sound quality. Now. A sub-$500 AVR is a different matter entirely. Purchasing a decent AVR with the ability to add external amps later on would most-likely get you more up-to-date features along with room for expansion later on. Those features can be enjoyed for a couple of years until the pre-pro catches up.
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Post by RightinLA on Mar 4, 2014 1:14:52 GMT -5
I found that the better quality receivers such as the Pioneer Elites tend to be more reliable and less quirky than many of the pre-pro's I've owned or read about. The typical AVR manufacturers simply have more R&D and can spread the cost over a higher volume. As such, a receiver can be a safer choice because of their more consistent reliability.
Sound quality is on par with the better quality AVR's. Of course as has been pointed out, they offer a ton of extra features that I like such as internet radio and streaming capability.
Another thing that I like is to use a surround bar or a smaller set of speakers directly off the receiver for casual or TV viewing. I mainly use the amps and big speakers for movies.
I like that flexibility.
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