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Post by Jim on Nov 11, 2013 18:56:50 GMT -5
We are an antsy bunch, now aren't we? Keep up the good work, now where did you say those tubes were? Nick Perhaps in Andrews trunk? Are we overdue for a podcast? Seems like it's been a bit. |
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Post by novisnick on Nov 11, 2013 19:06:11 GMT -5
Yes, it is time for a video pod cast!
The cast could feature all the toy we want and have dreamed of all year long!!!!!! Because Christmas has come early this year. Let's do Christmas for Thanksgiving this year.
Peace,
Nick
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Post by brubacca on Dec 19, 2013 19:43:17 GMT -5
Yes, as long as it had remote control capability for Power On/Off, Volume and Source Selection,
I'd prefer a Tube/SS integrated amp, but Emotiva doesn't seem to embrace integrated amps.
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Post by highfihoney on Jan 22, 2014 21:53:27 GMT -5
I'd buy an entry level tube pre as well as top of the line tube preamp from Emotiva only if the preamps offered tone controls vs preset trim & bass management options , ive been buying & using high end gear for nearly 20 yrs with the main interest on Mcintosh gear , i currently own & use 2 tube preamps by Mcintosh, one vintage C-20 & a modern C-2200 both of which make use of tone controls & i would jump on an Emotiva tube preamp in a heartbeat , tube buffers are a gimmick .
I learned of Emotiva from my time at Audioholics & i really liked what i read about emo gear so i bought a RSP-1 preamp to start , next i picked up the ERC-2 cd player , i enjoyed both peices so much my next emo purchase was a pair of XPR-1 monoblocks which are very comprable to Mcintosh Mc-1201's or the newly named Mc 1.2Kw 1,200 watt monoblocks, the version i own is the Mc-1201 but both models are basically the same mac amp , while lacking the extra 200 watts the 1201's have the emo XPR-1 monoblocks hold their own against the big mac amps at all but the loudest listening levels but again there is a 200 watt difference between the Emotiva vs the Mcintosh , all said & done im extremely pleased with all my emo gear & plan on buying an XPR-2 soon to use with the XPR-1 's so i can biamp a pair of Mcintosh XR-290 speakers .
I spend alot of cash on high end gear from Mcintosh mainly for build quality, features & appearance , so far ive seen nothing but great things from Emotiva but whomever made the choice at emo to drop tone controls from 2 channel preamps made a bad choice , a choice which seems to feed into the very same hype which Emotiva goes against , in no way will bass management or trim presets take the place of tried & true tone controls for many 2 channel guys like myself , just the fact Mcintosh to this day offers 2 channel preamps with tone controls WAS enough to keep me buying Mc gear until i got into Emotiva gear , since buying my 1st emo peice i havent bought from Mcintosh but what happens when i grow tired of the RSP-1 & want to upgrade preamps ?
Even though most wont admit it the look of a rig is important , to me having a rig all from the same manufacturer is what looks best, i dont want a Mcintosh peice in my Emotiva rig nor would i want an emo peice in any of my Mc rigs, not every user runs their rig on blackout feature , i place much value on tone controls , had Emotiva chose to not include tone controls on their early model preamps i wouldnt of bought a single peice of their gear which would suck because its top of the line & compared to competing brands costs nothing, i can allready get many other different well established brand pre's without tone controls, the markets full of them , what i cant get without spending $ 5K is a good looking & great sounding multiple amplifier platform 2 channel preamp that offers tone controls .
Emotiva allready has fantastic build quality & great sound so why discontinue the incorporation of standard tone controls if there is no benifit to the user ? , a simple bypass button would fit purists needs while allowing those who want & use the controls to have them .
I didnt intend on posting an essay but i dont use the forums much anymore , but really guys you should really think about bringing back tone controls with 2 channel preamps because they are usefull & they have a following.
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Post by willcycle on Jan 23, 2014 8:24:21 GMT -5
I agree tone controls are an asset in a preamp especially with less expensive speakers and problematic rooms. I purchased a Mcintosh MX118 tuner preamp for my bedroom system in part for its variable loudness and tone controls. I listen to this system at reduced volume levels and my Magie MMGs need help in the bass and highs.
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Post by highfihoney on Jan 23, 2014 17:55:15 GMT -5
I agree tone controls are an asset in a preamp especially with less expensive speakers and problematic rooms. I purchased a Mcintosh MX118 tuner preamp for my bedroom system in part for its variable loudness and tone controls. I listen to this system at reduced volume levels and my Magie MMGs need help in the bass and highs. I face much the same issues with my Klipsch speaker systems where the use of tone controls is a must , i rarely use them on my XRT-22's but every so often i do , mainly due to a sub par recording , with my XR-290's the tone controls are bypassed or stay in neutral depending on what pre im using but my wife uses them alot because she prefers a different sound than i do .
I like everything about my RSP-1 preamp & highly reccomend buying one used if the opportunity presents itself . |
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Post by ocezam on Jan 25, 2014 13:13:14 GMT -5
a simple bypass button would fit purists needs while allowing those who want & use the controls to have them . Agreed. But I'd go on to say that I will not buy any preamp, Emotiva or otherwise, that has tone controls without a bypass button. A simple detent in the controls to indicate a "neutral" position is unacceptable. I've never used tone controls that didn't modify the signal NO MATTER where the control was set. Every good preamp I've used that had a bypass was able to demonstrate this every time. |
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Post by brubacca on Feb 12, 2014 20:17:54 GMT -5
Any news on Emotiva Glass products?
I need an info fix.
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Post by repeetavx on Feb 12, 2014 23:04:44 GMT -5
Any news on Emotiva Glass products? I need an info fix. Meanwhile in another thread, Working on it and coming along nicely. If your into glass, I think you are going to like these when they get finished. But thats just my opinion.  Lonnie |
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Post by kauai82 on Nov 3, 2015 16:31:38 GMT -5
I know this is an old thread, but has anyone heard that if the 20+ projects for 2015 include an entry level tube preamp ? Might have to break down and buy a Chinese entry pre if Emotiva does not come out with one in the near future. Any hints ? I would hate to drop $350 on a Chinese preamp and then have Emotiva come out with one.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2015 17:02:32 GMT -5
I know this is an old thread, but has anyone heard that if the 20+ projects for 2015 include an entry level tube preamp ? Might have to break down and buy a Chinese entry pre if Emotiva does not come out with one in the near future. Any hints ? I would hate to drop $350 on a Chinese preamp and then have Emotiva come out with one. If you want to try a tube preamp go for it. Tubes is not a priority and I doubt you would see one within within 18-24 months if ever. I would not wait for Emotiva. |
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Post by repeetavx on Nov 3, 2015 17:26:21 GMT -5
I waited for the XPS-1 for almost two years. Then they had a blowout sale on the Pre-1s. I've been very happy with the Pre-1 and see no need to get an XPS-1 now. Only you can decide how long you're willing to wait.
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Post by garbulky on Nov 3, 2015 17:32:43 GMT -5
I have to second the disdain for tone controls. I am not a fan of tone controls in the slightest and have shied away from stuff that had it.
However I am also just one opinion. If it helps the XSP-1 has very very slight tone controls (which are abled to be bypassed). It has a treble and bass tone control. But be warned the adjustment is VERY mild.
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Post by jmasterj on Nov 3, 2015 18:21:00 GMT -5
I know this is an old thread, but has anyone heard that if the 20+ projects for 2015 include an entry level tube preamp ? Might have to break down and buy a Chinese entry pre if Emotiva does not come out with one in the near future. Any hints ? I would hate to drop $350 on a Chinese preamp and then have Emotiva come out with one. Yes I would, and I did. On the second page of this thread I mentioned that I was considering purchasing a Xiang Sheng 728A it's an entry level tube preamp. I purchased it specifically to put with my XPA-100 mono blocks. I really like the combination I chose to roll two of the six tubes and the sound improved from sound with the stock tubes in. It's been flawless since I've owned it however it's not always in the rotation. Matter of fact I'll pull it back out in December. I like it, and I would buy it again. I've been currently listening to my small tube integrated amp. Last month I finally decided to roll the Blue Glass Power tubes. I went for some KT-77's for a change of pace so I plan to spend a few more weeks trying the new tubes with all three sets of speakers. |
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Post by jmasterj on Nov 4, 2015 9:28:37 GMT -5
One thing that I find interesting about this hobby is how we seem to equate price with quality. We seem to think that if it's this cheap then it's not good, but that's not always the case. Before I tried Polk Audio SDA 2's back in the 1980's I had never heard of Matthew Polk. Before I purchased a Carver M1.5t power amp back then I had never heard of Bob Carver. Guess what I never heard of Emotiva until I purchased my ERC-1 from them. Before I purchased my Tekton Designs M-Lores I never heard of Tekton Designs or Eric Alexander. There's an old saying "nothing ventured, nothing gained" until we try something we don't know. Yes sometimes you may get a lemon but I've found this not to be the case or the norm. Someone with higher priced equipment might think Emotiva is not good because it's priced thousands of dollars cheaper then their equipment. They can't put out premium quality equipment at that price. Wrong! Yes they can.
I've always been the type of person who is willing to give different audio equipment a chance. I have never been let down. I believe that if you want to try something you should try it.
Believe me if I purchased something and it was not worthy I would be the first to acknowledge that if someone inquired about it. By the same token if I purchase something that I consider worthy I will not hesitate to say that. If you want to try a entry level tube preamp get one.
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Post by audiobill on Nov 4, 2015 11:03:59 GMT -5
OK, but remember that grade M6 transformer iron, quality connectors, Vishay resistors, Sprague capacitors, American tubes, stainless steel chassis, etc all do, in fact cost more real money and contribute to value remaining somewhat stable over time.
There are bargains, sure, but an efficient market may just result in getting what you pay for.
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Post by vneal on Nov 4, 2015 11:06:51 GMT -5
If you have a dedicated 2 channel system. I absolutely would consider a tube pre amp but bot a entry level. On tube amps and pre amps too many short cuts are usually taken on the entry level models IMHO
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Post by kauai82 on Nov 7, 2015 13:52:58 GMT -5
Thanks for all the input on buying a entry level tube preamp. I have decided to purchase a Little Dot MK III tube preamp without tone controls direct from the manufacture. Ran me $200 plus $45 for air shipping. Should have it in the next ten days. I will update the forum on my thoughts after I get it set up. I will be using it with my Sherbourn Pre-One preamp that I am using as a phono preamp and a input source switcher (using the tape out as the output to the Little Dot (wish the Chinese would name their products with more cooler names). I will be using my Emo UPA-200 to power my Core 2 DIY speakers. There is another thread talking about the Monoprice integrated tube amp that the Little Dot is replacing. The only reason I am replacing the Monoprice is that it only has 15 watts RMS a channel and on some songs, mainly hard rock at very loud levels, the 15 watts is not enough for the inefficient Core 2's. I will be using the Monoprice as a headphone amp. It sounds great with my HiFiMan 400 cans.
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Post by vcautokid on Nov 7, 2015 14:30:20 GMT -5
Nope. There is too much I am loving in S.S. I had tubes before. For me the work and maintenance is more than I want. Music is what I want to hear, not what 6922 is the bomb this week.
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