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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 22, 2013 0:55:50 GMT -5
Any guesses as to when an Emotiva tube product might become available for purchase? They had suggested that they would be updated on the web site this past weekend. I thought all they said was that the Carver products might be posted last weekend as part of the Holiday sale, and that now seems unlikely. But does anyone really expect an Emotiva branded tube product anytime soon? If there was something remotely close wouldn't there have been more evidence of it at EmoFest? Maybe I'm wrong, but if you want something soon it seems you should be looking elsewhere, wishing and posting won't make it happen.
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Post by luvtubes on Oct 22, 2013 2:07:33 GMT -5
Whatever it was that fell apart between Carver and Emotiva, it was swift and sudden. I would love to know what happened as I was looking forward to the collaboration.
I hope Emo will have some tube stuff coming. Perhaps a sneak peak behind the great Wisard's curtain is in order?
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Post by ocezam on Oct 22, 2013 7:44:44 GMT -5
Whatever it was that fell apart between Carver and Emotiva, it was swift and sudden. Sure seems that way. I would love to know what happened as I was looking forward to the collaboration. Yeah, me too. But it kind of makes me feel a little creepy, like a voyeur, since it's not really my business. I hope Emo will have some tube stuff coming. Perhaps a sneak peak behind the great Wisard's curtain is in order? Emotiva doesn't do that very often. Sometimes at Emofest, but generally, no. When they did, lots of people would start bugging them about launch dates, and then it could get pretty ugly.
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Post by Boomzilla on Oct 22, 2013 8:44:00 GMT -5
News to me - Is Bob Carver no longer associated with Emotiva?
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Post by mshump on Oct 22, 2013 9:11:09 GMT -5
Boomzilla Big Dan posted this a week or so ago
Hey all,
To clear everything up regarding Emotiva, Bob Carver, and tube amps in general, here's an update.
First, yes, our professional relationship with Bob Carver is at an end. I was excited to have had the opportunity to have worked with him.
Second, we're absolutely committed to making tube amps (and other products) under the Emotiva name, and they're coming to our website in short order. You'll see them listed under a separate series, like we've done with the Pro products.
Finally, thank you for bearing with us in this transitional time. We simply need to work through some details before you see tube amps for sale on emotiva.com, and we maintain our greatest respect for Bob Carver and his work, as well as our commitment to providing exciting tube amps with exceptional value and performance under the Emotiva name.
All the best, Big Dan
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Post by Boomzilla on Oct 22, 2013 14:06:24 GMT -5
Well, not too surprised... After running your own company, it's HARD to work for someone else again. Add to that the fact that both Mr. Carver and Mr. Laufman seem to be "strong personalities," and some friction is not unexpected.
That said, I'm happy that Emotiva still plans to introduce tube products. Now to be patient again - Sigh...
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Post by woofy98102 on Nov 5, 2013 13:16:00 GMT -5
I'm sorry it didn't work out with Carver, but I am overjoyed to hear that Emotiva intends to move forward with tube gear.
One thing I hope is being developed is a DSD-compatible DAC with solid state balanced outs that also includes single-ended tube outs as well. That way users can use the balanced outs for higher quality recordings and use the tubed outputs for the zillions of less-than-stellar, downright painfully crunchy or compressed digital recordings and mp3 files.
Music Hall uses a similar approach with their 25.3 DAC, which offers solid state balanced outs as well as single ended outs that use a tube buffer in their output stage.
If Emotiva were to create a DSD DAC with a fully balanced solid state output stage AND a fully-tubed single ended (vs one with just a tube buffer) output stage that also offers a true 24/196 USB input, they would be the first to offer a truly universal digital file decoding solution. It would provide music lovers with a high quality, one box solution to get the most enjoyment out of ALL their digital recordings. I would snap up such a product in a New York nanosecond.
As it stands now, I am having to use separate solid-state and tube DACs with the obligatory digital cable juggling between them, depending on the source and recording. It's a royal pain and takes up a ton of room in my rack.
With a DAC like I described above and a decent tubed or solid state phono stage, Emotiva would then need to offer a simpler linstage-only tube preamp with four inputs and analog bass management with HT-bypass. End users could simply add digital and/or analog recording playback functionalities according to their individual needs. Emotiva could then put the bulk of their development budget into creating a preamp that concentrates on being the best it can be without trying to be some kind of do-it-all swiss army knife product that becomes obsolete when the next digital file format of the week is announced...
Just my two cents...
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