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Post by LCSeminole on Aug 3, 2013 9:26:24 GMT -5
Yeah, that's what you need for 96 db efficient speakers, an amp which you will *never* use its capability. Folks, I understand there is a mantra around here that goes something like this "You can never have too much power". And I call BS on that. It's akin to stressing over whether your Corvette has 450 hp or 700 hp. The fact of the matter is, the lower powered unit has *plenty* of juice to get the job done every single day. If you want the higher-powered unit for bragging rights, go right ahead. But you have not bought yourself any practical advantage... -RW- I don't see anyone here actually arguing against you on this point. All I've read so far are options that have been posted. I've not read any advise in this thread that is bad, just options as well as looking to possible future power needs. We all have our opinions and they are just that. I take it you will be selling your XPA-5 and now powering your Gallo's with a UPA-500 or UPA-700? While the UPA-500/700 may not give you the reference levels you may want, they'll power your Gallo's at comfortable listening levels.
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Post by monkumonku on Aug 3, 2013 9:42:00 GMT -5
Yeah, that's what you need for 96 db efficient speakers, an amp which you will *never* use its capability. Folks, I understand there is a mantra around here that goes something like this "You can never have too much power". And I call BS on that. It's akin to stressing over whether your Corvette has 450 hp or 700 hp. The fact of the matter is, the lower powered unit has *plenty* of juice to get the job done every single day. If you want the higher-powered unit for bragging rights, go right ahead. But you have not bought yourself any practical advantage... -RW- So who do they make 75% of these amps for as most don't have huge inefficient speakers, just asking For the same people who buy cars that are capable of going way faster than the owners are capable of driving them? That said, I think it is a good idea to buy the best you can practically afford because if you don't, you're always going to be kicking yourself and wishing you had, and you'll wind up buying what you should have bought in the first place anyway. It's all about peace of mind, right?
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Post by LCSeminole on Aug 3, 2013 9:52:53 GMT -5
So who do they make 75% of these amps for as most don't have huge inefficient speakers, just asking For the same people who buy cars that are capable of going way faster than the owners are capable of driving them? That said, I think it is a good idea to buy the best you can practically afford because if you don't, you're always going to be kicking yourself and wishing you had, and you'll wind up buying what you should have bought in the first place anyway. It's all about peace of mind, right? ..............or the OP could for go the outboard power amplifier(s) and and just go monitor speakers all around! I'm really surprised Rickie that you didn't offer up this bit of advice!
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Post by monkumonku on Aug 3, 2013 10:12:08 GMT -5
For the same people who buy cars that are capable of going way faster than the owners are capable of driving them? That said, I think it is a good idea to buy the best you can practically afford because if you don't, you're always going to be kicking yourself and wishing you had, and you'll wind up buying what you should have bought in the first place anyway. It's all about peace of mind, right? ..............or the OP could for go the outboard power amplifier(s) and and just go monitor speakers all around! I'm really surprised Rickie that you didn't offer up this bit of advice! Oh I would have except I am sitting here wondering why Emo didn't put two 500 wpc amps inside of each Stealth instead of only 200 wpc amps. Well, maybe a 400 wpc amp for the tweeter would be okay. Actually I'm jazzed about my Stealths and love having these powered monitors. I was just offering advice for those who haven't advanced themselves to the level of this configuration yet.
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Post by Dan Laufman on Aug 3, 2013 10:38:17 GMT -5
PA-7-150 is a steal right now!
It's a wonderful amplifier and one of my favorites.
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Post by novisnick on Aug 3, 2013 10:44:53 GMT -5
PA-7-150 is a steal right now! It's a wonderful amplifier and one of my favorites. No brainer PA- 7 150 is a really good!!!!!!!!!!!!! deal and I think it comes with a 10 year warranty
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Post by novisnick on Aug 3, 2013 10:52:10 GMT -5
PA-7-150 is a steal right now! It's a wonderful amplifier and one of my favorites. Hi Dan, Ive dropped some change, OK alot of change$$$$$$$$$$$ latly with tall but the front of my, new just out of the box, doesnt match my Gen 2 XPA-5, Will there be a cost to get matching trim for these wonderful amps? Oh what a differance class A makes. Love Emotiva, everyone is so nice. Im trying to get the Misses to Emofest this year. Thanks so much
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Post by dracarys on Aug 3, 2013 11:50:46 GMT -5
I've not actually taken the time to take a closer look at the specs of the PT-7030 or TX-NR808. The most glaring difference to me would be the P-EQ in the PT-7030 as opposed to the room correction software in the TX-NR808. In my opinion a P-EQ hands down, if you take the time to use a manual program like REW from HomeTheaterShack, is superior to the pre-loaded room correction softwares that are so popular to the "Set It and Forget It" home theater crowd that don't have any interest or want to learn about taking room measurements and properly correcting their room environment. Is it worth the extra $750 or should I put the money to use elsewhere in my system?
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Post by LCSeminole on Aug 3, 2013 12:16:33 GMT -5
What exactly are you looking to do in your home theater? I just read back through this thread and didn't actually see what speakers you have to work with. I see you have a 14x20 room(which isn't small), do you have vaulted ceilings? Do you have a subwoofer(s)? Tell us a bit about what you are looking to accomplish and what you are comfortable spending to get there.
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Post by repeetavx on Aug 3, 2013 13:47:00 GMT -5
Is it worth the extra $750 or should I put the money to use elsewhere in my system? Both the PA 7-150 and PT-7030 are considered "Reference" quality components. But: If you feel that your speakers could be more detailed and resolving, then upgrade your speakers. The PA 7-150 and/or PT-7030 are highly detailed and resolving. If you spent less than $200 on your source component, then you may want to look at upgrading your source components. If you don't have any room acoustic treatments, then you may want to start reading and planning on making you room as acoustically competent as your components. Like LCSeminole said, give us the facts and we'll have a world of answers for you..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2013 13:47:37 GMT -5
LCS wrote: " I take it you will be selling your XPA-5 and now powering your Gallo's with a UPA-500 or UPA-700? While the UPA-500/700 may not give you the reference levels you may want, they'll power your Gallo's at comfortable listening levels."
No, I will not be doing that. The fact of the matter is my Gallos are 88 db efficient, fully 8 db less efficient than the OP's. And the XPA-5 drives them quite well and I feel *absolutely* no need to even consider something like an XPR-5. And a UPA-500 is a big drop down in power, 80 watts/ch as opposed to 200 watts/ch. Plus I paid a UPA-500 price for my XPA-5.
But this guy is seriously considering a 350 watts/ch. amp for his VERY efficient speakers. And that is a total waste of money unless he is trying to run his system in a big-ass disco, which he is not. You guys with your "headroom" mantra are full of crap, plain and simple. The OP would do quite well with a UPA-500 - 80 real watts into 96 db speakers will play really friggin' LOUD. He should order one and listen to it in his system - I'm betting he keeps it...
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Post by dracarys on Aug 3, 2013 14:03:16 GMT -5
I have decided on the PA7-150. I am not sure if there is anything to gain by replacing my Onkyo TX-NR808 with the PT 7030 for the additional money . Been doing a lot of reading seems to be a real difference of opion on which is more technologically advanced big name av receiver or preamp from a smaller company. New at this home theater, what other information do you need?
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Post by LCSeminole on Aug 3, 2013 14:16:42 GMT -5
LCS wrote: " I take it you will be selling your XPA-5 and now powering your Gallo's with a UPA-500 or UPA-700? While the UPA-500/700 may not give you the reference levels you may want, they'll power your Gallo's at comfortable listening levels." No, I will not be doing that. The fact of the matter is my Gallos are 88 db efficient, fully 8 db less efficient than the OP's. And the XPA-5 drives them quite well and I feel *absolutely* no need to even consider something like an XPR-5. And a UPA-500 is a big drop down in power, 80 watts/ch as opposed to 200 watts/ch. Plus I paid a UPA-500 price for my XPA-5. But this guy is seriously considering a 350 watts/ch. amp for his VERY efficient speakers. And that is a total waste of money unless he is trying to run his system in a big-ass disco, which he is not. You guys with your "headroom" mantra are full of crap, plain and simple. The OP would do quite well with a UPA-500 - 80 real watts into 96 db speakers will play really friggin' LOUD. He should order one and listen to it in his system - I'm betting he keeps it... -RW- Again, I don't actually see any one here recommending that he buy a PA7-350. He did however ask about our thoughts on the matter, and giving him the full picture is definitely a wise move don't you think? Don't you look at all of your options on substantially large purchases? I do, which is why I explained even further about the dedicated 20a circuit.
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Post by repeetavx on Aug 3, 2013 14:18:30 GMT -5
I have decided on the PA7-150. I am not sure if there is anything to gain by replacing my Onkyo TX-NR808 with the PT 7030 for the additional money . Been doing a lot of reading seems to be a real difference of opion on which is more technologically advanced big name av receiver or preamp from a smaller company. New at this home theater, what other information do you need? Nothing at this point. If you've decided to get the PA 7-150 were excited for you. We believe the difference you'll hear will really impress you. And we believe that you, like us, will want more Emotiva goodness. There's a lot of experience in our forum with varying views and conclusions. There are various "camps" on different types of setups and techniques. As you enjoy your PT 7-150, read the forums and see which views match what you are experiencing. We're eagerly waiting for you to post your conclusions on the PT 7-150, and remember that if you don't like it (like that's going to happen), you have a 30 day money back guarantee.
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Post by LCSeminole on Aug 3, 2013 14:23:47 GMT -5
I have decided on the PA7-150. I am not sure if there is anything to gain by replacing my Onkyo TX-NR808 with the PT 7030 for the additional money . Been doing a lot of reading seems to be a real difference of opion on which is more technologically advanced big name av receiver or preamp from a smaller company.
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Post by creimes on Aug 3, 2013 16:45:26 GMT -5
PA-7-150 is a steal right now! It's a wonderful amplifier and one of my favorites. I love my PA 7-150, only thing it needs is the XPA series speaker binding posts, I've had one of the plastic grip covers come off on me, I find my XPA-2 binding posts are of much better quality, really that's my only gripe with this amp. Chad
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Post by dracarys on Aug 3, 2013 18:17:38 GMT -5
I bought my speaker before I did very much research I have a BIC America PL-28 for center channel Pl-89s for front and sides, Dante Towers for rear (which were refurbished by a Electrical Engineer friend). I have 2 subs BIC America PL-200s. Still not sure whether to stay with the onkyo TX-NR808 or go with the PT 730. One thing I like about the onkyo is that with a UPA-700 I borrowed, we were able to run all seven of the speaker off the amp and the two wides off the av receiver. Vaulted ceilings. Listen to music and blue ray movies. Listened to a friends system who had seperates just sounded a lot better.
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Post by LCSeminole on Aug 3, 2013 21:52:21 GMT -5
With the PA7-150 you look to be set, and dual subwoofers should be quite helpful in the low end since you have a decent size room with vaulted ceilings. Since you mentioned powering the front wides from the receiver, are you running a 9.2 speaker setup? As for your friends system with separates, it could've sounded better for several reasons, such as better room acoustics, more powerful subwoofers and speakers, room treatments, etc., etc., etc., and not just because of separates. There is lots to learn about home theaters in general so feel free to kick back on the Lounge and ask questions as we are here to help as well as learn from one another. Oh yeah welcome to the Lounge!
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Post by geebo on Aug 4, 2013 9:58:24 GMT -5
LCS wrote: " I take it you will be selling your XPA-5 and now powering your Gallo's with a UPA-500 or UPA-700? While the UPA-500/700 may not give you the reference levels you may want, they'll power your Gallo's at comfortable listening levels." No, I will not be doing that. The fact of the matter is my Gallos are 88 db efficient, fully 8 db less efficient than the OP's. And the XPA-5 drives them quite well and I feel *absolutely* no need to even consider something like an XPR-5. And a UPA-500 is a big drop down in power, 80 watts/ch as opposed to 200 watts/ch. Plus I paid a UPA-500 price for my XPA-5. But this guy is seriously considering a 350 watts/ch. amp for his VERY efficient speakers. And that is a total waste of money unless he is trying to run his system in a big-ass disco, which he is not. You guys with your "headroom" mantra are full of crap, plain and simple. The OP would do quite well with a UPA-500 - 80 real watts into 96 db speakers will play really friggin' LOUD. He should order one and listen to it in his system - I'm betting he keeps it... -RW- Insulting, arrogant and very disrespectful. Plain and simple.
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Post by geebo on Aug 4, 2013 10:01:53 GMT -5
I have decided on the PA7-150. I am not sure if there is anything to gain by replacing my Onkyo TX-NR808 with the PT 7030 for the additional money . Been doing a lot of reading seems to be a real difference of opion on which is more technologically advanced big name av receiver or preamp from a smaller company. New at this home theater, what other information do you need? Good choice. I'm positive you'll be pleased with it. And welcome to the Lounge!
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