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Post by Boomzilla on Sept 1, 2013 11:59:56 GMT -5
I could use Blu-Tac or Museum Wax, but they don't hold too well. I want something more secure that won't permanently mar the speakers. The best idea I've come up with so far is to iron on some velcro to the top of the speaker stand, then iron on the other piece to the speaker bottom. If I want to sell the speakers down the road, I can apply an iron to melt the velcro backing, remove it, and clean up any residue with lighter fluid.
Before I do this, I thought that you guys might have some other ideas?
Thanks - BoomLackaBoom
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Post by sheetmetalworker on Sept 1, 2013 13:06:39 GMT -5
I set mine on iso pods or vibrapods. My kids are all grown up so no worries there. my cat dosent mess with my audio gadgets. Mine seem plenty stable and sound good. Im sure if i bumped into them they would topple.
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Post by jt357 on Sept 1, 2013 13:19:15 GMT -5
I use the brass spikes that came with my stands. My youngest is in High School so...
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Post by RightinLA on Sept 1, 2013 13:27:30 GMT -5
I use some older Polk Monitor speakers as stands for my LSi7 and LSI9 book shelf speakers, but this isn't the best use of an older speaker.
Not having children around now is a big plus. A poorly directed vacuum cleaner can be public enemy #1 as well.
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Post by novisnick on Sept 1, 2013 14:07:44 GMT -5
I use the brass spikes that came with my stands. My youngest is in High School so... Gravity my friend, Just having some fun  |
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Post by emovac on Sept 1, 2013 16:35:16 GMT -5
I could use Blu-Tac or Museum Wax, but they don't hold too well. I want something more secure that won't permanently mar the speakers. The best idea I've come up with so far is to iron on some velcro to the top of the speaker stand, then iron on the other piece to the speaker bottom. If I want to sell the speakers down the road, I can apply an iron to melt the velcro backing, remove it, and clean up any residue with lighter fluid. Before I do this, I thought that you guys might have some other ideas? Thanks - BoomLackaBoom Can you provide a photo of your speakers, stands. An idea might include a ledge on top of the stand frame, to brace the speaker cabinet. If the ledge was fitted, blu-tac would be more than ample. |
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Post by monkumonku on Sept 1, 2013 16:56:55 GMT -5
Have you actually ever tried Quake Hold museum putty? I've used that for several speakers and it holds really strong - like you can pick up the stand and hold it horizontally or upside down and the speaker will not come off. In fact if you don't follow the instructions and use too much, it will be extremely difficult to remove the speaker by any means. However, if you follow the instructions there is a pretty easy way to detach the speaker and the putty comes off of both the stand and the speaker and leaves no residue or markings at all. I highly recommend it. It's much better than what you are intending to do with velcro and lighter fluid. The only thing is you have to let the putty set for a few days but after that, you're good to go.
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Post by jlafrenz on Sept 1, 2013 18:17:48 GMT -5
I use poster putty with is generic Blue Tak. It works really well. Ironing and melting velcro onto a speaker sounds like a mess and might ruin a speaker.
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Post by Boomzilla on Sept 1, 2013 18:28:08 GMT -5
Well, I've tried both Blu-Tac & Museum wax (a variant of putty) and wasn't satisfied with either. They make some INDUSTRIAL Velcro & I've ordered some. I think it might be ideal - On flat, hard surfaces (like the stand top & speaker bottom) the adhesion increases with vibration (a good thing). Also, a two by two inch pad is supposedly sufficient to hold 175#. Other than knocking the speaker AND stand over, there should be no way to accidentally dislodge the speaker from the stand. My plan is to put a full cover of velcro hooks on the top of the stand, then put smaller velcro felts on the bottom of the speaker. Even if I choose to sell the speaker later, the felts shouldn't hurt the resale value. If I do want to take them off, orange degreaser is said by the 3M company to do the job.
I'll let y'all know how it works.
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Post by melm on Sept 1, 2013 18:38:23 GMT -5
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Post by Boomzilla on Sept 1, 2013 19:38:16 GMT -5
Yeah, I've got a pair exactly like them, but I'm not convinced that they'll hold well enough and they also seem pretty flimsy. I worry that they'd topple in a light breeze. Another solution might be to Velcro some "pro gear" pole hats onto the bottom of the speakers & then use my pro tripods (also height adjustable) to hold the speakers. Besides having a wide footprint, the pro stands are made to hold self-amplified 15" horn loaded tops, so they should hold home speakers with ease and grace. I first want to at least try the Velcro idea. If it doesn't work, then all I've lost is some yard-sale speakers. Cheers - Boomed out... |
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Post by pdaddy on Sept 1, 2013 23:02:40 GMT -5
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Post by wizardofoz on Sept 1, 2013 23:07:01 GMT -5
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Post by DYohn on Sept 2, 2013 0:09:04 GMT -5
Speak to them sternly and warn them that if they get down off those stands you will send them to their rooms.
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Post by KeithL on Sept 2, 2013 2:29:55 GMT -5
Some people say Blu-Tak (sticky putty) helps... and NOT brushing against them when you walk by definitely helps. Speak to them sternly and warn them that if they get down off those stands you will send them to their rooms. |
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Post by KeithL on Sept 2, 2013 2:32:18 GMT -5
Interesting; I'll have to try that one. MY cat does NOT leave speakers alone. Of course, if you have kids or inquisitive cats, you also have to worry about the whole stand+speaker tipping over anyway... in which case, you're probably safer (although less acoustically proper) to just sit them on small end tables. Have you actually ever tried Quake Hold museum putty? I've used that for several speakers and it holds really strong - like you can pick up the stand and hold it horizontally or upside down and the speaker will not come off. In fact if you don't follow the instructions and use too much, it will be extremely difficult to remove the speaker by any means. However, if you follow the instructions there is a pretty easy way to detach the speaker and the putty comes off of both the stand and the speaker and leaves no residue or markings at all. I highly recommend it. It's much better than what you are intending to do with velcro and lighter fluid. The only thing is you have to let the putty set for a few days but after that, you're good to go. |
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Post by chaosrv on Sept 2, 2013 2:55:58 GMT -5
Interesting; I'll have to try that one. MY cat does NOT leave speakers alone. Of course, if you have kids or inquisitive cats, you also have to worry about the whole stand+speaker tipping over anyway... in which case, you're probably safer (although less acoustically proper) to just sit them on small end tables. Have you actually ever tried Quake Hold museum putty? I've used that for several speakers and it holds really strong - like you can pick up the stand and hold it horizontally or upside down and the speaker will not come off. In fact if you don't follow the instructions and use too much, it will be extremely difficult to remove the speaker by any means. However, if you follow the instructions there is a pretty easy way to detach the speaker and the putty comes off of both the stand and the speaker and leaves no residue or markings at all. I highly recommend it. It's much better than what you are intending to do with velcro and lighter fluid. The only thing is you have to let the putty set for a few days but after that, you're good to go. Ah cats & speakers - the very reason I will never own another set of Definitive Technology speakers. I loved my BP 7002's but the wraparound socks were begging to be shredded by a cat, even with trimmed claws. Thankfully they don't touch the ML's. Boom, I'm sure you know this but take care to make sure your stands are nice & stable as well...maybe weighed down by more than just the speakers. The less wobbly a stand the less likely you'll have a wobbly speaker. Once you have that down, the actual adhesion method between the stands & speakers *should be* less important. Even your previously tried Blu tack may do the trick if all you're worrying about is the light brush against the speaker cabinet. If you're not worried about looks, this could definitely work. Another idea is to have Matt Kraemer (Aluminati) build you a set of aluminum speakers with screw holes in the bottom. |
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Post by Boomzilla on Sept 2, 2013 7:30:41 GMT -5
Well, my floors are NOT level. That is one of the issues. The concrete was apparently never leveled before the carpets were installed, and when I tossed the carpet & installed vinyl, I didn't know enough to check the leveling. It is what it is - I'm NOT going to tear out the floor nor am I going to install carpets again.
Stands (and floor standing speakers) are often noticeably able to rock. Some outlying legs with adjustable feet might help, but then I'd have to readjust every time I moved the speakers (which I do often).
I think that for the time being, I just have to live with what I have. I think that the Velcro will work, and since I've already ordered it, I'll see in a few days.
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Post by monkumonku on Sept 2, 2013 10:42:27 GMT -5
Interesting; I'll have to try that one. MY cat does NOT leave speakers alone. Of course, if you have kids or inquisitive cats, you also have to worry about the whole stand+speaker tipping over anyway... in which case, you're probably safer (although less acoustically proper) to just sit them on small end tables. Have you actually ever tried Quake Hold museum putty? I've used that for several speakers and it holds really strong - like you can pick up the stand and hold it horizontally or upside down and the speaker will not come off. In fact if you don't follow the instructions and use too much, it will be extremely difficult to remove the speaker by any means. However, if you follow the instructions there is a pretty easy way to detach the speaker and the putty comes off of both the stand and the speaker and leaves no residue or markings at all. I highly recommend it. It's much better than what you are intending to do with velcro and lighter fluid. The only thing is you have to let the putty set for a few days but after that, you're good to go. The thing is, instead of the speakers sliding off the stands, the entire speaker/stand assembly will just fall over if it gets pushed. The first time I used Quakehold the instructions said use an amount the size of a grain of rice. I figured that wasn't enough so I used more than that. When it came time to take the speakers off the stand it was like the I Love Lucy episode when she uses Bulldog Cement. They would NOT come off. I even laid the stand on its side then stood on the speaker and it would not come off. It took a long time to wrestle it off the stand and it was definitely not fun.. Next time I followed the instructions.  |
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Post by Boomzilla on Sept 2, 2013 11:17:32 GMT -5
Speak to them sternly and warn them that if they get down off those stands you will send them to their rooms. You've been taking Chuckienut lessons, haven't you? LOL |
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