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Post by ansat on Sept 19, 2013 21:52:59 GMT -5
14 days left on the trial. I would need something set up soon. Can you do pre-out measurements? Also some acoustic measurements that are not in sweet-spot? Pre-out will allow to analyze what and where Dirac is doing. It is practically impossible to find from acoustic graphs what comes from the room and small mic displacements and what is from processing. And I have doubts about impulse response improvements... If they are at cost of making it worse out of the sweet spot then it is doubtful improvement. Generally it is impossible to correct high-frequency late reflections for anything except one single spot. As for correcting frequency response (looking at unsmoothed graphs) Dirac seems to be on par with XT. Just different target curves, but resolution look similar, and is quite low at the low frequencies. XT32 usually correct frequency response at those frequencies significantly better. I can probably swing a another measurement this weekend. Though measuring the precut might be difficult. I will see what I can come up with though. Tony
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Post by jking on Sept 21, 2013 0:21:25 GMT -5
As one that has worked in sound reinforcement for over 40 years I think most people worry to much about how flat they can get the graft and then stop there. IMHO a flat starting point is jut that a great place to start from. You really have to train you ears and do the final adjustments by ear or as we are seeing now with companys like Anthem, they have a modified program to do it since most people do not have the time. Learning to listen can take years of work then as you get older (at least with me) I find I need more quite time before the final listen. When working in recording studios the near field monitors would be around 3 -4 feet from your ears so you bought very good speakers (maybe several pair) and as you ran the mix you would listen loud sometimes very loud and then soft. It should sound pretty close. Then you have the big far field monitors (6-10 feet away that you would go back and forth between them and the nearfield to get it sounding the way you think it should. Most studios I have been in did not have EQ on their speakers, the biggest reason the speakers were just to close to you they HAD to be right to start with. Yes there were treatments in the room to help but everything worked togeather from the MIc's to tape deck. everything had some bearing on how the song sounded in the end.
The end as many think did not stop at the recording studio but then went to a Mastering studio Like Georgetown Masters in Nashville. I was stunned the first time I went into this Final mastering studio. 2 Hugh Mono Block amps with a set of speakers way bigger then any I had see in a Med. size room. The tape was run through a set of 40 year old compressors and a hand made desk with not much more then treble, Mid, Low adjustments. We spent days just tweaking the 9 songs on this album and I could not believe the differance in sound quality when they were done.
So over the years it really is the ears that have the final say in how good your system sound, Training your ears by just listening softly as much as you can while you learn to pick out what is going on in the song , which instrurments are playing and when.
So the final say is not so much what you use to start setting up you system but by what you use to finish tuning it with. IMHO anyway
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Post by ansat on Sept 22, 2013 21:54:48 GMT -5
Didnt get a chance to get more measurements. Hopefully I can get to it before my trial runs out.
Tony
sorry for the short response. sent from my phone.
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Post by ansat on Sept 26, 2013 21:06:06 GMT -5
Sorry guys. I dont think I can get to any further measurements during my trial.
Exhausted with work and I am not home enough to even think about kicking the wife out of the upstairs.
Tony
sorry for the short response. sent from my phone.
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