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Post by witalik on Oct 2, 2013 4:17:34 GMT -5
Hello all !
I still have a few questions about the SR-8100 :
Enhanced bass mode, is somebody able to select this in the menu ? Its on the lowest line of the menu and when i try to select it it wil go to the next page.
And is there maybe in the future an update coming for the room correction utility ? Now its pretty far off in distance wise (my room according to the system is about 40 feet wide) and also setting the fronts totally different with certain frequencys while i have the microphone in the center of the both fronts ?
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Post by witalik on Oct 5, 2013 15:28:48 GMT -5
another thing,
i am playing music now via my HTPC with windows media player, and ALL STEREO is selected. but i still only have sound coming from my front speakers and my subwoofer. I would think the center and the surround speakers also should get signal ?
Am i the only one coming across these problems ?
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Post by pallpoul on Oct 5, 2013 19:06:51 GMT -5
It sounds like you are encountering problems, that I have not with my SR-8100.
If you set your speakers to "large", you can select enhanced bass.
Check your transport for the "all stereo" mode. It is not the SR 8100.
Hope this helps.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 5, 2013 20:33:16 GMT -5
another thing, i am playing music now via my HTPC with windows media player, and ALL STEREO is selected. but i still only have sound coming from my front speakers and my subwoofer. I would think the center and the surround speakers also should get signal ? Am i the only one coming across these problems ? All Stereo is not like some receivers "Party Mode", it does not cause the signal to be routed to all speakers. You can try PLIIx, or Neo:6, or one of the DSP modes, but it's still different. |
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Post by markusv2 on Oct 6, 2013 11:44:07 GMT -5
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How exactly does "All stereo" work in the SR-8100/UMC-200?
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 6, 2013 12:09:47 GMT -5
I would describe it as direct mode with EQ & bass management. That is, two channel sources will be two channel, multichannel sources will be multichannel, but both will use your subwoofer and equalization settings (unlike direct).
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Post by witalik on Oct 6, 2013 12:14:44 GMT -5
Its not likely i can select PLIIx because there is not a input of that kind. Have not tried it tho. Well sometimes it does switch to all speakers on with All Stereo. But i dont have anything else on than i had yesterday...
So enhanced bass is only available with fronts set at large, i have a subwoofer so i need to set the fronts to small.
I find that when i did the calibration. The sound is very hollow. All the lower frequencies are set to -3,5 dB and that while i like to listen to full sound with little bit bass heavy. Almost like loudness. There is no easy or quick way so set bass higher right ? Thats something i find quite lacking. I could set the subwoofer higher with the buttons on the remote, just a simple bass + / - would really fix it for me.
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Post by markusv2 on Oct 6, 2013 13:20:40 GMT -5
I would describe it as direct mode with EQ & bass management. That is, two channel sources will be two channel, multichannel sources will be multichannel, but both will use your subwoofer and equalization settings (unlike direct). Crossovers are active in "Direct Mode" too so anybody knows exactly what mode does what? |
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Post by witalik on Oct 8, 2013 18:55:24 GMT -5
Is there maybe any update/upgrade planned for this calibration program of the receiver ? When i run it now the sound is not like it should be like : When i sit in the place where i had the microphone placed the sound is shifted to one side. The distances are not correct either. When i set it manually the sound does improve and seems to be coming from the TV instead of one side. And also all the lower frequencies are so much killed. Every speaker is getting a -3.5dB minumum reduce in the lower regions. I miss alot a fullness from ths speakers.
If i would need to boost all the frequencies manually it would take a few days to do with all of the options there.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 9, 2013 10:24:19 GMT -5
Firmware updates are few and far between as their never as easy as expected, it's good to document your issues as you're doing so they can be considered and included should an update come along. I'd think the 8100 updates would be somewhat tied to the UMC-200 because as far as we know the processor portion is pretty similar (or identical). This is to say you probably look to other solutions rather than hope for an update.
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Post by jhoff80 on Oct 10, 2013 16:01:19 GMT -5
anybody knows exactly what mode does what? I tried emailing Sherbourn and asking that the first week the thing was released when my order came in back in April, and never got any response whatsoever (nor did I get one to my detailed list of firmware bugs I had encountered, for that matter), so if anyone gets an actual answer to this I'd love to know it. I mean, so direct mode has no processing (though I still get bass management that way, so I'm not fully sure what processing it's skipping), I kind of figured that. And I also figured that All Stereo is not like what it's misleading name implies, as mentioned above. But when using a Dolby Digital signal, for example, what is the difference between All Stereo and setting it to Dolby Digital? As I said when I first got my receiver, the documentation here is just abysmal. Also, unrelated, but I haven't checked back with Sherbourn's site in a long time, and I'm glad to see how much my expensive purchase maintained its value.  (Only kidding, I still really do like the receiver despite its bugs and flaws and the fact its price has dropped by a third since I bought it). |
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Post by witalik on Oct 11, 2013 11:10:28 GMT -5
Another thing i find a little weird is that i had enabled the enhanced bass so i had to set the front speakers to large. But with enhanced bass my subwoofer is doing nothing ?
What is enhanced about that ? i hope someone of sherbourn is reading this topic too :-) to maybe talk to us that this is the way it should be or that it is considerd to be updated or something ?
EDIT :
I looked at the manual and found out it says this :
Enhanced Bass is a special function intended to enhance the bass capabilities of systems with both
Large front speakers and a subwoofer. When enhanced Bass is set to On, bass frequencies from
the front channels are also sent to the subwoofer (even if the front speakers are set to Large).
But this is not the case, my subwoofer does nothing with this enhanced bass option set to YES.
And i really want to know how to get all speakers to play while listening to music via my HTPC. I had it running once but now i cant get it back... kind of annoying.
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Post by markusv2 on Oct 14, 2013 7:06:45 GMT -5
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Just checked with 2 channel PCM over HDMI and "Enhanced Bass" does work.
What type of input signal did you use? Is input set to "Direct"?
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Post by witalik on Oct 16, 2013 17:18:31 GMT -5
Do you mean enhanced bass works with or without you're subwoofer ? I have my HTPC hooked up to it with HDMI. I find all a little bit weird. It says in manual subwoofer should work with enhanced bass but it doesnt.
And does anyone have all stereo working somehow ? i want all my speakers to give a sound when this is selected. Had it once but, not getting it to work anymore.
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Post by markusv2 on Oct 17, 2013 12:11:32 GMT -5
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You have to have a sub for enhanced bass to work. That's the sole reason this feature exists: send bass from the mains to the subwoofer.
Again: What type of input signal did you use? Is input set to "Direct"?
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Post by witalik on Oct 17, 2013 19:15:56 GMT -5
As i said a few times. I use my HTPC with HDMI connected to the receiver. and i play music trough VLC. With enhanced bass enabled my woofer does nothing. I dont use Direct mode.
I think pallpoul is right about the source and All Stereo. I listened to some radio today via de tv decoder that is connected with HDMI to the receiver and all speakers where giving sound out of them.
So i am guessing some kind of option in windows from my HTPC is giving me some issues. Tho i set it to output SR-8100 and 5.1 enabled. Got to play around with it some time.
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Post by markusv2 on Oct 19, 2013 4:57:57 GMT -5
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Why is it so hard to give specific answers to specific questions? What type of signal are you feeding into the UMC-200? Multichannel PCM or 2 channel PCM? What does the UMC-200 show? What mode are you using? "All Stereo"?
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Post by witalik on Oct 19, 2013 6:59:12 GMT -5
Dude relax, i gave the answer on you question. Only now you ask me about wich audio signal is given to the SR-8100
I am playing a radio stream now from media player from the HTPC and its saying on the display of the receiver :
All Stereo
MultiPCM
When i look in the sound options of windows it says :
Information about connections
L R HDMI digital connection
I wonder what is needed to get all the speakers to work in this mode. When i listen to the radio on my tv decoder all the speakers give sound.
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Post by markusv2 on Oct 19, 2013 8:12:35 GMT -5
^
First I'm not a "Dude", and no, you didn't answer what I've asked. That's why I was frustrated.
Second, your PC is sending a multichannel PCM signal to the UMC-200/SR-8100. The processor doesn't know that 6 of the 8 channels contain silence. You would probably need to send a 2 channel PCM signal for "All Stereo" to work as expected.
Third, why do you want all your speakers to output "something" at all if the signal is just stereo? It's mixed for two speaker playback.
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Post by witalik on Oct 21, 2013 5:09:23 GMT -5
I think i get what you mean, setting my HTPC to stereo might work for sending sound to the other channels.
Why i want it ? Why not.
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(Only kidding, I still really do like the receiver despite its bugs and flaws and the fact its price has dropped by a third since I bought it).