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Post by deltadube on Nov 4, 2013 17:47:58 GMT -5
no no no no no no no no film on those babies Bob i see with my glasses its the reflection of the carpet now kinda looks like the film look .. yeah the windows look alot sharper with the film off Chad.. on your great looking rack eh.. cheers |
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Post by Ivanhoe on Nov 4, 2013 20:49:57 GMT -5
Answer to previous question from Jim, just checked that my XPA-1L at iddle for 70 minutes in A/B mode (blue lights and no music playing) gets a little warm. On the other hand my UPA-1 is cool to the touch. Jim - How much heat does your XPA-1 put out?
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Post by novisnick on Nov 4, 2013 20:58:15 GMT -5
Ivanhoe, there is no reason for concern! Hot is how they run and what beautiful music do they make. I've owned these amps and only returned them for a lot more power, but I wish that I had the $ to have kept them for my other system. Sad for me, but had to sacrifice for the power.
Now that's one heck of a run on sentence!
I had a set of Sherbourn C-12 fans sitting on each and never gave it another thought.
There keepers, enjoy!
Peace,
Nick
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Post by Ivanhoe on Nov 4, 2013 21:09:56 GMT -5
Yeah I will forget about it, sit back and just enjoy the great sound they produce.
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Post by Jim on Nov 4, 2013 21:15:24 GMT -5
Answer to previous question from Jim, just checked that my XPA-1L at iddle for 70 minutes in A/B mode (blue lights and no music playing) gets a little warm. On the other hand my UPA-1 is cool to the touch. Jim - How much heat does your XPA-1 put out? My XPA-1s have only ever gotten warm (not hot) -- but then again I've never cranked them......... And they also are 2X the size of the 1L, so have loads more heat-sink surface area too. |
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Post by novisnick on Nov 4, 2013 21:22:16 GMT -5
Answer to previous question from Jim, just checked that my XPA-1L at iddle for 70 minutes in A/B mode (blue lights and no music playing) gets a little warm. On the other hand my UPA-1 is cool to the touch. Jim - How much heat does your XPA-1 put out? My XPA-1s have only ever gotten warm (not hot) -- but then again I've never cranked them......... And they also are 2X the size of the 1L, so have loads more heat-sink surface area too. Your both trying to compare apples to peanuts! An A class amp is not an A/B class amp,it transitions into one. my XPR-1s run warm but that is yet another class amp, H class. Would you compare a Class A to a Class A/B to a Class H? I think not. I'm not trying to ridicule but be helpful, Class A amps run hot, pure and simple. Peace, Nick   |
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Post by Jim on Nov 4, 2013 21:33:09 GMT -5
My XPA-1s have only ever gotten warm (not hot) -- but then again I've never cranked them......... And they also are 2X the size of the 1L, so have loads more heat-sink surface area too. Your both trying to compare apples to peanuts! An A class amp is not an A/B class amp,it transitions into one. my XPR-1s run warm but that is yet another class amp, H class. Would you compare a Class A to a Class A/B to a Class H? I think not. I'm not trying to ridicule but be helpful, Class A amps run hot, pure and simple. Peace, Nick When you're comparing the XPA-1L to the XPA-1 -- with both running in A/B, it's not an apples to peanuts comparison. The XPA-1L is a HALF size XPA-1 with a bias switch. That's almost word for word how Lonnie has described it. We're not talking about Class A mode. The XPA-1L WILL remain in Class A below 35W if the switch is set to Class A. If you're under 35W, for all intensive purposes it IS a class A amp. It's running as a space heater because of the very high bias current. Not everybody is running the 1L in Class A mode......... The XPA-1L and XPA-1 should idle at relatively similar temperatures in class A/B. In Class A, no questions asked it'll be hot, but I believe the OP understood this from the very beginning (and people keep bringing it up). I don't know what the bias current is in A/B - but it's probably a few watts - like most Emotiva A/B amps. The 1L in class A/B mode should NOT be hot sitting idle. Now, if I said my XPA-1 idles at around 45W and my XPR-5 idles at 65-80W, now that would be apples to peanuts  |
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Post by novisnick on Nov 4, 2013 21:44:48 GMT -5
Your both trying to compare apples to peanuts! An A class amp is not an A/B class amp,it transitions into one. my XPR-1s run warm but that is yet another class amp, H class. Would you compare a Class A to a Class A/B to a Class H? I think not. I'm not trying to ridicule but be helpful, Class A amps run hot, pure and simple. Peace, Nick When you're comparing the XPA-1L to the XPA-1 -- with both running in A/B, it's not an apples to peanuts comparison. The XPA-1L is a HALF size XPA-1 with a bias switch. That's almost word for word how Lonnie has described it. We're not talking about Class A mode. Not everybody is running the 1L in Class A mode......... The XPA-1L and XPA-1 should idle at relatively similar temperatures in class A/B. In Class A, no questions asked it'll be hot, but I believe the OP understood this from the very beginning (and people keep bringing it up). The 1L in class A/B mode should NOT be hot sitting idle. OK Jim, sorry about that, I guess I should have just said that in my experience with them, that is what I found.I wasn't trying to be a smarty or anything, I do hope you know that. They really are a great set of amps though! Peace, Nick |
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Post by Jim on Nov 4, 2013 21:52:11 GMT -5
When you're comparing the XPA-1L to the XPA-1 -- with both running in A/B, it's not an apples to peanuts comparison. The XPA-1L is a HALF size XPA-1 with a bias switch. That's almost word for word how Lonnie has described it. We're not talking about Class A mode. Not everybody is running the 1L in Class A mode......... The XPA-1L and XPA-1 should idle at relatively similar temperatures in class A/B. In Class A, no questions asked it'll be hot, but I believe the OP understood this from the very beginning (and people keep bringing it up). The 1L in class A/B mode should NOT be hot sitting idle. OK Jim, sorry about that, I guess I should have just said that in my experience with them, that is what I found.I wasn't trying to be a smarty or anything, I do hope you know that. They really are a great set of amps though! Peace, Nick You're a traitor for returning your 1L for XPRs..... hahahahaha YES, I am being a smart ass!! I want a pair of 1Ls. |
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Post by Dark Ranger on Nov 4, 2013 22:16:16 GMT -5
Hi Ivanhoe, I own a trio of XPA-1Ls and they do run a little warm in A/B mode. Actually, the 1L runs warmer (in A/B mode) than all my other Emotiva amplifiers. Also remember that all amplifiers heat up while in use. Temperatures will increase as you push the amp harder. Nothing to be concerned about. It's completely normal.  Just be sure the amp has enough room to breathe. Don't block the vents and you'll be fine. |
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Post by Ivanhoe on Nov 5, 2013 19:47:32 GMT -5
Jim, thanks for the reply regarding your XPA-1 and big thanks for everyone's feedback. To be on the safe side, I plan to buy a pair of fans to put on top of my XPA-1L. Any recommendations?
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Post by creimes on Nov 5, 2013 21:57:02 GMT -5
Jim, thanks for the reply regarding your XPA-1 and big thanks for everyone's feedback. To be on the safe side, I plan to buy a pair of fans to put on top of my XPA-1L. Any recommendations? For me my gear is hidden so a sweet little $20 fan does great for me.  |
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Post by novisnick on Nov 5, 2013 22:07:09 GMT -5
Jim, thanks for the reply regarding your XPA-1 and big thanks for everyone's feedback. To be on the safe side, I plan to buy a pair of fans to put on top of my XPA-1L. Any recommendations? For me my gear is hidden so a sweet little $20 fan does great for me. Ivanhoe, if you can find a pair of Sherbourn C-12 fans it would be a perfect fit if you have room. When I had these amps I placed one on to of each. There effective and good looking,,,,,,,,,like me!!!,,,,He,,,,,,,He,,,,,, Nick |
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Post by hcsunshine90 on Apr 4, 2014 8:24:44 GMT -5
this is in regards to the cosmetics of the XPA-1L. I notice what looks like a serial number on the front panel. who would put a serial number there? I hope the gen 2 does not have that. I also think these amps should come standard with black trim and with silver trim optional.
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Post by Dark Ranger on Apr 4, 2014 10:17:14 GMT -5
this is in regards to the cosmetics of the XPA-1L. I notice what looks like a serial number on the front panel. who would put a serial number there? I hope the gen 2 does not have that. I also think these amps should come standard with black trim and with silver trim optional. The XPA-1L does have a laser-etched serial number on the front panel (lower left). Emotiva's larger XPA-1 monoblock had this same feature for Gen1 and it's carried over for Gen2 as well. It's likely the XPA-1L Gen2 will keep the SN on the front along with the upgrade aesthetics. I've owned this product for over a year and don't find it to be an issue. |
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Post by hcsunshine90 on Apr 4, 2014 15:39:03 GMT -5
i don't really just sit and stare at the amp, i mostly just just listen to the music. what would one gain by putting a serial number there? however, i just wish emo would "rethink" when they decide to do something like this. hopefully the engineers can read this.
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Post by ocezam on Apr 26, 2014 18:35:48 GMT -5
this is in regards to the cosmetics of the XPA-1L. I notice what looks like a serial number on the front panel. who would put a serial number there? I hope the gen 2 does not have that. I also think these amps should come standard with black trim and with silver trim optional. Actually, the front mounted serial number is an indication of the exclusivity and small target market nature of the amp. The XPA-1 has this feature also.1 I'm sure the Gen II WILL have this feature. |
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Post by ocezam on Apr 26, 2014 18:36:38 GMT -5
i don't really just sit and stare at the amp, i mostly just just listen to the music. Me too, so why sweat it? |
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Post by Jim on Apr 26, 2014 18:51:22 GMT -5
For me my gear is hidden so a sweet little $20 fan does great for me. Ivanhoe, if you can find a pair of Sherbourn C-12 fans it would be a perfect fit if you have room. When I had these amps I placed one on to of each. There effective and good looking,,,,,,,,,like me!!!,,,,He,,,,,,,He,,,,,, Nick I really want them to bring back the C-12. It's the only rack mounted fan solution that actually appeals to me. |
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Post by novisnick on Apr 26, 2014 18:57:01 GMT -5
Excuse me please!!!!!!! Everyone,,,,,,,Please Listen!!! I'll wait,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,  The only thing wrong with the XPA-1L amp is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I DONT HAVE A SET,,,,,,,,,,,,,That's it ,,,,,,,,nothing else could make them better!!!ok, maybe a gen 2 trim But that's it!!!  You may now go about your own business now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Breath normal! Move along,,,,,,,,,,nothing to see here,,,,,,,,,,,,,, IMHO |
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