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Post by cgolf on Nov 11, 2013 6:43:21 GMT -5
Is anyone using their DC-1 hooked directly to their amps? And how is that working? Better than going through a processor such as the UMC-200? I'm getting mine today and will try it both ways but was just wondering who else has tried it and what their results were.
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Post by TheMachinist on Nov 11, 2013 7:46:28 GMT -5
IMO was much better than USP-1. So I feel it should eat the UMC-200 any day. Some have reported it is better than XSP-1. I have found it to be the other way, but have to do some critical listening again to determine if it can eat the XSP-1 too.
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Post by audiobill on Nov 11, 2013 8:15:08 GMT -5
Is anyone using their DC-1 hooked directly to their amps? And how is that working? Better than going through a processor such as the UMC-200? I'm getting mine today and will try it both ways but was just wondering who else has tried it and what their results were.
I really like mine direct......into an xpa-2 |
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Post by garbulky on Nov 11, 2013 8:35:01 GMT -5
Is anyone using their DC-1 hooked directly to their amps? And how is that working? Better than going through a processor such as the UMC-200? I'm getting mine today and will try it both ways but was just wondering who else has tried it and what their results were.
In my system..... The DC-1 sounded better direct to the amplifier than when using my passive pre-amp. Which says a LOT (for me). It could use a bit more ... something at low volumes. At loud-ish medium volumes it was good. Direct to the amplifier, it does better than the XDA-1 did and had transparency. It couldn't equal the dynamic impact that the USP-1 could bring to the mix when connected to the amplifiers, but it is more transparent than the USP-1 in terms of detail. Just lack detail in dynamics but not any worse than the XDA-1 or anything. Just that the USP-1 was a real champ in this area. So I think it would be a good choice to run it direct to the amplifier. I've also found it sounds significantly better if it's left turned on. (In my system.) |
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Post by cgolf on Nov 11, 2013 8:50:27 GMT -5
Thanks everyone. I suspected that it would sound better direct. I'll try it tonight and post my findings. I currently have dual XPA-3s but am getting ready to purchase a pair of XPA-100s for my fronts. Should be the same SQ for any XPA type amps I would think!!
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Post by Poodleluvr on Nov 11, 2013 9:33:20 GMT -5
IMO, the Emotiva Pro DC-1 DAC is an incredible value @ $499.
For a strictly 2-channel set-up without compromise, the DC-1 used in variable output mode, is all the 2-channel analog preamp you will need when connected directly to your analog amplifiers(s).
(In a HT type set-up using a HT (digital) processor, in the personal ability of a audiophile to compromise and desire to maintain the high quality analog 2-channel output capability of the DC-1, in addition, I suggest using a high quality analog 2-channel preamp like the XSP-1 which has HT bypass capability.)
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Post by cgolf on Nov 11, 2013 10:24:39 GMT -5
IMO, the Emotiva Pro DC-1 DAC is an incredible value @ $499. For a strictly 2-channel set-up without compromise, the DC-1 used in variable output mode, is all the 2-channel analog preamp you will need when connected directly to your analog amplifiers(s). (In a HT type set-up using a HT (digital) processor, in the personal ability of a audiophile to compromise and desire to maintain the high quality analog 2-channel output capability of the DC-1, in addition, I suggest using a high quality analog 2-channel preamp like the XSP-1 which has HT bypass capability.) Wouldn't connecting the DC-1 to the F & L 7.1 inputs on the UMC-200 give the same results? |
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Post by Poodleluvr on Nov 11, 2013 10:51:11 GMT -5
First, I don't own a UMC-200 processor or any processor at this time, although I have in the past.
A 2-channel preamp (without any digital processing) is strictly an analog component. Your Emo amps are in the analog domain and your speakers are in the analog domain.
A key to high quality 2-channel performance is, once you are in the analog domain, you remain in that same analog domain. The DC-1 is a DAC, that is, digital to analog converter.
The output of the DC-1 is in the analog domain. Inputting the analog output of the DC-1 into a digital processor may take that analog signal, turn it then into digital, do whatever processing it needs to do, come out the processor in digital format, and then go through digital to analog (DAC) conversion.
As said, I'm not familiar with the UMC-200. If your UMC-200 F & L 7.1 inputs go through the processor without any form of analog bypass capability, then further analog to digital conversion and then digital to analog (DAC)conversion will take place. Doing this would be like using 2 DACs, which IMO, defeats the purpose of using the DC-1.
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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 11, 2013 10:59:19 GMT -5
Fewer conversions = better conversions. Poodleluvr is right, IMHO. I also run DAC output directly to power amps. Equipment matching (in terms of voicing) is more critical, but when you find a synergistic match, MAGIC!
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Post by creimes on Nov 11, 2013 13:01:48 GMT -5
You guys need to hear how good the DC-1 sounds through the Balanced inputs of the PT-7030, I'm having a hard time hearing any negatives connected this way, DC-1 -> Balanced in of 7030 -> Balanced in of XPA-1L's, but like I have said before the 7030 has one unbelievable analog section for a processor IMO, even Andrew has said this as well.
Chad
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 11, 2013 13:24:51 GMT -5
I like my XDA-2 best directly to the amps.
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Post by TheMachinist on Nov 11, 2013 20:25:57 GMT -5
You guys need to hear how good the DC-1 sounds through the Balanced inputs of the PT-7030, I'm having a hard time hearing any negatives connected this way, DC-1 -> Balanced in of 7030 -> Balanced in of XPA-1L's, but like I have said before the 7030 has one unbelievable analog section for a processor IMO, even Andrew has said this as well. Chad You should try DC-1 with XSP-1. It will live up to its price tag. Btw UMC-200 in DIRECT mode does no A/D n D/A convertion. It all happens in analogue domain. |
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Post by Emosean on Nov 11, 2013 21:07:12 GMT -5
I have the DC-1 straight to XPA-1s sounded better than via the XSP to me.....
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Post by audiobill on Nov 12, 2013 5:34:15 GMT -5
Sounds like direct to the amps is the way to go!! FedEx didn't deliver today because it was Veteran's Day. Guess they took the day off...
It will deliver tomorrow!!  You'll have to get after your fedex guys - mine delivered (2) XPA-1's yesterday, and I haven't slept.......! |
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Post by cgolf on Nov 12, 2013 6:09:20 GMT -5
Sounds like direct to the amps is the way to go!! FedEx didn't deliver today because it was Veteran's Day. Guess they took the day off...
It will deliver tomorrow!! You'll have to get after your fedex guys - mine delivered (2) XPA-1's yesterday, and I haven't slept.......!  |
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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 12, 2013 8:55:41 GMT -5
Nope - If it's a FedEx Ground delivery, they deliver Tuesday through Saturday ONLY. Don't ask me why... It is also confusing because they say (when they miss your Saturday delivery date) that "Package will be delivered next business day." In normal-speak, this means a Monday, but in the never-never-land of FedEx, it means TUESDAY! Sigh...
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Post by audiobill on Nov 12, 2013 9:52:47 GMT -5
Nope - If it's a FedEx Ground delivery, they deliver Tuesday through Saturday ONLY. Don't ask me why... It is also confusing because they say (when they miss your Saturday delivery date) that "Package will be delivered next business day." In normal-speak, this means a Monday, but in the never-never-land of FedEx, it means TUESDAY! Sigh... Well, here in the land of "clinging to guns and bibles", PA, they to Ground shipments on Mondays, even Veteran's Day! |
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Post by cgolf on Nov 12, 2013 10:27:02 GMT -5
Nope - If it's a FedEx Ground delivery, they deliver Tuesday through Saturday ONLY. Don't ask me why... It is also confusing because they say (when they miss your Saturday delivery date) that "Package will be delivered next business day." In normal-speak, this means a Monday, but in the never-never-land of FedEx, it means TUESDAY! Sigh... Well, here in the land of "clinging to guns and bibles", PA, they to Ground shipments on Mondays, even Veteran's Day! Well here in Texas, where guns & bibles are almost more important than anything else, (food, sex, sleep, etc), they don't!!! and to be truthful, I didn't know that ground shipments didn't deliver on Mondays. Good to know for future deliveries. But we will have sweet music tonight!!! |
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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 12, 2013 10:32:59 GMT -5
Nope - If it's a FedEx Ground delivery, they deliver Tuesday through Saturday ONLY. Don't ask me why... It is also confusing because they say (when they miss your Saturday delivery date) that "Package will be delivered next business day." In normal-speak, this means a Monday, but in the never-never-land of FedEx, it means TUESDAY! Sigh... Well, here in the land of "clinging to guns and bibles", PA, they to Ground shipments on Mondays, even Veteran's Day! I didn't know that. Perhaps it's a regional thing? |
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