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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2014 8:00:49 GMT -5
He only made the one post (without much relevant info) and that was 6 days ago. I hope we don't waste any more time on this until he returns and gives us the details.
If we don't see another post from the OP in another week, then I suggest the mods completely delete this disappointment of a thread. How many folks out there do a search on the XPA-2 and see the title of this unsubstantiated thread.
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Post by typea on Mar 8, 2014 8:17:38 GMT -5
Im not sure about that plan. If it were a vague rave about how awesome his new XPA-2 was you wouldnt be questioning it being "unsubstantiated." So why is a counter opinion special, because it conflicts with your own?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2014 8:28:14 GMT -5
You could see what he was doing before the post ended... indeed   |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2014 8:54:53 GMT -5
Im not sure about that plan. If it were a vague rave about how awesome his new XPA-2 was you wouldnt be questioning it being "unsubstantiated." So why is a counter opinion special, because it conflicts with your own? No, because he gives no reasonable facts to back up his very unusual statement. Maybe he is sick, time will tell. "deep bass completely disappeared." This statement is 100% unlike the XPA-2 and leads me to think there is something wrong with his setup, we'll see. "" This is a toy" Do you consider that a responsible statement? |
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Post by bootman on Mar 8, 2014 9:21:28 GMT -5
Don't feed the trolls.....
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Post by bluemeanies on Mar 8, 2014 10:08:47 GMT -5
I think this was a HOAX. Someone who perhaps has a bad taste in their mouth for Emotiva. No matter what the reason. OP was very vague with his first and ONLY post. I think if there was a real problem and for that matter a toshio they would have posted something seeing all of these comments and handshakes.
I second..."don't feed the trolls"
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Post by mshump on Mar 8, 2014 13:29:19 GMT -5
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Post by solidstate on Mar 8, 2014 15:46:20 GMT -5
Also I def realize that I had got used to the bass boost and warm sound from my old receiver. I A/B'd the two set ups all last week over and over, and while the XPA did bring greater clarity to the music it still sounded awful to me and barely moved my speakers at all. My old receiver does definitely sound muddy though compared to the XPA. You guys are using shitty AVRs that have HORRIBLE line level output quality. |
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Post by rpm on Mar 8, 2014 18:44:02 GMT -5
Im not sure about that plan. If it were a vague rave about how awesome his new XPA-2 was you wouldnt be questioning it being "unsubstantiated." So why is a counter opinion special, because it conflicts with your own? I would agree with you if this was an independent site. Being that this is provided by Emotiva, IMHO they have every right and should delete negative troll posting that is obviously idiotic. |
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Post by joe501 on Apr 3, 2014 10:29:49 GMT -5
XPA-2 Disappointment (not sure yet?) I guess I can say I see where this post is coming from. I have a pair of Cerwin Vega XLS-215's that are about a year old now. I have been using my vintage Pioneer SX-1080 to power them. I am the original owner of this 35 year old receiver. I absolutely have always loved the sound this receiver has produced. I admit I like to listen to sound levels that I know I shouldn't be listing to. I know I have been pushing the Pioneer to its limits and it would only be a matter of time before it fails. So my options where, look around on Ebay for either a SX-1280 or SX-1980 that would give me the sound I like with more available power. Only problem with that plan is too expensive. Any many of these vintage receivers were taken apart and rebuilt possibly several times over. So I made the decision to buy the XPA-2. I am using the preamp out of the 1080 for now. First impressions were somewhat disappointing, very harsh, gone was that smooth mellow but powerful sound of the 35 year old receiver. But the XPA-2 has noticeable more power as I stopped increasing power before any clipping indication. I need to mention I have an EQ unit in the loop. After readjusting, I was able to get the sound closer to where I was used to it but now with much more available power. I am still evaluating it but I think its going to be a keeper. I know there are many arguments of new vs. vintage. All I can say is don't jump to conclusions until you have had the chance to listen to both for yourself. |
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Post by audiobill on Apr 3, 2014 10:40:11 GMT -5
Just a suggestion.....after many years of extremely high spls through efficient Cerwin Vegas it just may be time for a hearing test to recalibrate your references......
Just sayin'
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Post by Jim on Apr 3, 2014 11:50:43 GMT -5
Poor source material will sound worse with a revealing amp. Throw out all poor recordings! I think that point doesn't get enough attention! A really good amp will bring out *all* details, good and bad. Bad source isn't the amps fault! I like Chuckinut's comment though. He only made the one post (without much relevant info) and that was 6 days ago. I hope we don't waste any more time on this until he returns and gives us the details. If we don't see another post from the OP in another week, then I suggest the mods completely delete this disappointment of a thread. How many folks out there do a search on the XPA-2 and see the title of this unsubstantiated thread. |
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Post by ocezam on Apr 26, 2014 18:14:41 GMT -5
Yep. This is a complete Bullshite thread!
TROLL!!!!!
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Post by Boomzilla on Apr 28, 2014 7:51:58 GMT -5
I have a B&O 1900 receiver - the OP would LOVE it! LOL
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Post by DavidR on Jul 24, 2014 18:59:22 GMT -5
Poking around the site this evening trying to get a better feel for all the various forums and ran across this thread. Everyone has different ears and thus tastes. I do not like BRIGHT sounding speakers as the OP seems to dislike as well. My experience was that the XPA-2 Gen2 really opened up my speakers (AR90s). I also had a perceived acuity to my tweeters and upper mid drivers. It, however, was not brighter to me but clear and sharper and much needed. I had been using a modified Carver amp that actually had more watts but is a different design - G/H vs A/B. If the OP still has the amp he should check all of his connections but my recommendation is to make sure you are using proper speaker cables. I am using a combined 12AWG Phoenix Gold OFC (259/36 strand) + 14AWG OFC (19/27 strand). It makes a difference. Also, the bass fills in a LOT and treble smooths out after the amp had been used for about 100 hours. I posted a thread in the XPA-2 review section> my reviewGood luck with your choice. |
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Post by garbulky on Jul 24, 2014 19:47:32 GMT -5
Poking around the site this evening trying to get a better feel for all the various forums and ran across this thread. Everyone has different ears and thus tastes. I do not like BRIGHT sounding speakers as the OP seems to dislike as well. My experience was that the XPA-2 Gen2 really opened up my speakers (AR90s). I also had a perceived acuity to my tweeters and upper mid drivers. It, however, was not brighter to me but clear and sharper and much needed. I had been using a modified Carver amp that actually had more watts but is a different design - G/H vs A/B. If the OP still has the amp he should check all of his connections but my recommendation is to make sure you are using proper speaker cables. I am using a combined 12AWG Phoenix Gold OFC (259/36 strand) + 14AWG OFC (19/27 strand). It makes a difference. Also, the bass fills in a LOT and treble smooths out after the amp had been used for about 100 hours. I posted a thread in the XPA-2 review section> my reviewGood luck with your choice. Hi David, it was hard to figure out with your signature as it has some unfamiiliar gear to me. The XPA-2 shows a marked improvement with a dedicated pre-amp in the mix. And by dedicated I mean a standalone pre-amp (not an AVR pre-out or a DAC's line out). I tried the USP-1 on the XPA-2 and later tried the XSP-1 on a more powerful (XPR-2) emo amp and the results were very similar - a marked improvement in control and soundstage. |
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Post by DavidR on Jul 24, 2014 20:04:58 GMT -5
My XPA-2 is hooked to a Rotel RC-1082 > a 2 channel dedicated preamp. I'm a 2-channel dinosaur. Thanks for the info. RC-1082The inside of the RC-1580 is identical to the RC-1080 |
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Post by trinhsman on Jul 24, 2014 20:40:59 GMT -5
I have an XPA-2 hooked up to an Audible Illusions Modulus 3A. To say the sound is amazing is an understatement. I have heard systems costing 1000's more at the dealer I bought my turntable from and they don't come close to the XPA-2 and Audible Illusions preamp combo. Of course I am using a Music Hall 9.1 with Ortofon 2M Black cartridge and fully restored Snell Type C speakers. The original poster had to be a shill.
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Post by DavidR on Jul 24, 2014 21:05:54 GMT -5
That's a nice tube pre.
Nice find on those Snell speakers, too.
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Post by knucklehead on Jul 24, 2014 21:08:38 GMT -5
My XPA-2 is hooked to a Rotel RC-1082 > a 2 channel dedicated preamp. I'm a 2-channel dinosaur. Thanks for the info. You aren't the only two channel dinosaur around here. |
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