novisnick
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Post by novisnick on Mar 14, 2014 22:39:24 GMT -5
We have openings at the
MONO-BLOCKS Society !
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Real Maximus
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I now have a dedicated Salamander monoblock stand for my XPA2. Very sexy! :)
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Post by Real Maximus on Mar 14, 2014 23:06:42 GMT -5
Yes. I added the specs of my speakers though. If anyone believes one will mate better based on their specs, then that could bring differing opinions. Thanks
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Post by novisnick on Mar 14, 2014 23:21:06 GMT -5
OK, I had already when't and checked the specs out. Both amps will drive your very efficient speaker,,,,,,drive them down the street , up the block, and around the corner with no problem. That much I'm certain.
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Post by garbulky on Mar 14, 2014 23:41:04 GMT -5
You and Delta are the founder, CEO and chairman of the monoblock society!
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Post by novisnick on Mar 14, 2014 23:50:18 GMT -5
I just don't have an ear for a multi channel amp for 2 channel listening. Not sure if it's a condition or a disease? But analog sounds so sweet when it's Fully balanced, fully discrete, and Quad Differential, It's just me
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Post by deltadube on Mar 15, 2014 0:48:53 GMT -5
You and Delta are the founder, CEO and chairman of the monoblock society! im just a club member garbulky... Nick is the ceo !
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Real Maximus
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I now have a dedicated Salamander monoblock stand for my XPA2. Very sexy! :)
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Post by Real Maximus on Mar 15, 2014 3:08:17 GMT -5
Nick, thank you for that awesome description. That helps me a lot! I'll keep you posted on what I decide. I'm watching the used market for an excellent opportunity. Thanks again!
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Post by Porscheguy on Mar 15, 2014 8:09:06 GMT -5
I realize this isn't the first thread comparing these two. I am looking for fresh feedback, any and all opinions are most welcome. My primary question in creating this post, is not so much which one you prefer, but why. In other words, describe the sonic differences between the two. Where does one out shine the other? Let's list comparative strengths and weaknesses. I am personally trying to find a two channel amp, or pair of mono blocks, that can achieve musical finesse and nuance, while also offering a very tangible and authoritative bass response, capable of deep, tactile layering. Is this too much to ask? Is there such an amp capable of both criteria? Let's hear your thoughts, those of you who have owned or heard there pieces. There are no sonic differences. All Emo amps sound the same.These threads are a hoot
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Post by ocezam on Mar 15, 2014 9:06:45 GMT -5
There are no sonic differences. All Emo amps sound the same.These threads are a hoot Then you could have saved yourself a bunch of money by just buying a UPA-700 instead of wasting money on your XPRs. After all they'd sound the same...
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Post by creimes on Mar 15, 2014 9:16:11 GMT -5
Our ears and rooms and personalities are all different hence all the different responses you will get, I like to think I have somewhat of a decent ear as I have been a lover of music since I was a kid, I myself did not find enough of a difference with my DC-1 to XPA-1L's from my PT-7030 to my XPA-5, I found there was a slight improvement but IMO not enough to warrant the cost of having the equipment, I still say go with an XPA-2 but it's your room, your money and your final decision.
Chad
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novisnick
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Post by novisnick on Mar 15, 2014 9:17:00 GMT -5
There are no sonic differences. All Emo amps sound the same.These threads are a hoot Then you could have saved yourself a bunch of money by just buying a UPA-700 instead of wasting money on your XPRs. After all they'd sound the same... Poor old guy must be half deaf,,,,,,,, can't hear any difference in amps on his speakers. he,,,,,,,he,,,,,,,he,,,,,,,,
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Post by Lsc on Mar 15, 2014 9:23:09 GMT -5
There are no sonic differences. All Emo amps sound the same.These threads are a hoot Then you could have saved yourself a bunch of money by just buying a UPA-700 instead of wasting money on your XPRs. After all they'd sound the same... This is what I'm hoping will not be the case when I compare the XPA-2 gen 2 to the XPR-5 (running 2 ch). One thing I did notice was the ultra low THD by the XPA-1L and XPA-1 gen2. The XPA-2 gen 2 has the highest THD out of all the Emo amps I was looking at.
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Post by Lsc on Mar 15, 2014 9:25:17 GMT -5
Then you could have saved yourself a bunch of money by just buying a UPA-700 instead of wasting money on your XPRs. After all they'd sound the same... Poor old guy must be half deaf,,,,,,,, can't hear any difference in amps on his speakers. he,,,,,,,he,,,,,,,he,,,,,,,, He might be old (don't know) and half deaf but he ain't poor . Cruising around in his 911 Carrera.
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Post by novisnick on Mar 15, 2014 9:27:59 GMT -5
Poor old guy must be half deaf,,,,,,,, can't hear any difference in amps on his speakers. he,,,,,,,he,,,,,,,he,,,,,,,, He might be old (don't know) and half deaf but he ain't poor . Cruising around in his 911 Carrera. For sure, also look at his sig. SWEETTTTTTTTttttttttttt
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Post by Porscheguy on Mar 15, 2014 13:17:48 GMT -5
There are no sonic differences. All Emo amps sound the same.These threads are a hoot Then you could have saved yourself a bunch of money by just buying a UPA-700 instead of wasting money on your XPRs. After all they'd sound the same... The difference is dynamics. Ever heard of it? 1K mono bloc is going to have big headroom and to me that's important. Also the XPR 's are beautiful and a very good deal. I was under no illusions when I bought them that would experience an epiphany when I hooked them up. You guys all make me laugh. I've owned a UPA-7,(2) XPA-1's, an XPA-2 and a XPA-5 and I could not hear the difference between any of them. The all have the same circuit topology and many use most of the same parts. The XPR series creates voltage at the rails differently (class H) but the signal path is the same. This is all just marketing 101. Your product gets a little stale, so you give it a haircut and a shave and call it "Gen 2". It's the same amp. Whoops, it has black pieces now instead of aluminum. Please tell me what has "really" changed in the design of any of these amps? Or for that matter ANY well made class AB power amp? Class AB is well….. class AB It's like saying "I want the best apple pie I can get. Should I get the 8" one, 10" one or the 12" one?" All made of the same ingredients but someone will swear the 12" one tastes better because its bigger and more expensive. And, I don't buy the "pure class A" argument one bit in these amps. Marketing once again. Love Emo and their products but I'm not drinking the Koolaid.
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Post by Porscheguy on Mar 15, 2014 13:34:32 GMT -5
Then you could have saved yourself a bunch of money by just buying a UPA-700 instead of wasting money on your XPRs. After all they'd sound the same... This is what I'm hoping will not be the case when I compare the XPA-2 gen 2 to the XPR-5 (running 2 ch). One thing I did notice was the ultra low THD by the XPA-1L and XPA-1 gen2. The XPA-2 gen 2 has the highest THD out of all the Emo amps I was looking at. Is that based on your listening results or are you just staring at spec sheets? How much more in audible does it have to be than totally inaudible? You think that these amps distort?
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Post by novisnick on Mar 15, 2014 13:49:49 GMT -5
Ed, I prefer Pecan Pie, thank you
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Post by thevinoman on Mar 15, 2014 17:44:35 GMT -5
And I like red Kool-Aid, thank you.
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Post by ocezam on Mar 16, 2014 7:48:17 GMT -5
The difference is dynamics. Ever heard of it? Of course I've heard of it. More importantly, I've heard the actual dynamics itself. Dynamics were the glaring difference between the XPA-2 and XPA-100s I had at the same time. So, congratulations, you we're able to hear the difference between Emo amps, although it apparently took a comparison of the bottom most amplifier and the top most amplifier for your ears to hear a difference. You guys all make me laugh. I've owned a UPA-7,(2) XPA-1's, an XPA-2 and a XPA-5 and I could not hear the difference between any of them. And you make me laugh. You can't hear a difference, therefore nobody can.
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Post by Porscheguy on Mar 16, 2014 10:59:08 GMT -5
The difference is dynamics. Ever heard of it? Of course I've heard of it. More importantly, I've heard the actual dynamics itself. Dynamics were the glaring difference between the XPA-2 and XPA-100s I had at the same time. So, congratulations, you we're able to hear the difference between Emo amps, although it apparently took a comparison of the bottom most amplifier and the top most amplifier for your ears to hear a difference. You guys all make me laugh. I've owned a UPA-7,(2) XPA-1's, an XPA-2 and a XPA-5 and I could not hear the difference between any of them. And you make me laugh. You can't hear a difference, therefore nobody can. OK, one last time. We are not comparing an XPA-1 to a Boulder 3050 which costs $50,000, weighs 335 lbs and will make 6000 watts into 2 ohms. We are comparing within the same manufacturer's build family, amps that are almost identical in their design and manufacture - save for the power ratings. These Emo amps amps are designed to meet a price point, something for everyone if you will. And they are very good! Manufacturer's (including Emotiva) love customers like you. They will continue to build "new and improved" versions of their amps as their sales volumes slow only to have many run out and buy the new versions. That's what you do in marketing. Whether its it's makeup, popcorn or power amps, manufacturers are always reinventing themselves. It's not a criticism, it's just how it is. Just one man's opinion........
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