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Post by bub on Apr 1, 2014 0:14:32 GMT -5
And I'm another one to thank Nick for info on HT by-pass and bass management..Seems so simple now.. A lot of headaches trying to get here on my own...My hat is off to you for the information and your time.. Thanks.. Next up is a TT..
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Post by kauai82 on Apr 1, 2014 7:47:04 GMT -5
I'm so glad you got this system up and running, I'm sure the sound is superb! I do agree with you that the phono stage of the Pre-1 is very nice,,,,,,,,I haven't really done a side by side with the XSP-1,,,,, just too lazy I guess. What system do you use to clean your vinyl? Nick Nick, I only use the Spin-Clean system, the one with the bath and you spin the record by hand. I also use a carbon fiber brush. I see you have a Rega P6. Nice !
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Post by eusebio on Apr 2, 2014 19:46:06 GMT -5
Anybody have issues with the volume control on the Pre-1 by chance?
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Post by novisnick on Apr 2, 2014 21:00:12 GMT -5
There is a known issue with the Pre-1, I personally don't think it's a big deal but I guess I should send a note to see if it needs to be returned for a fix or if I could do it at home. The dial will not turn back with the remote, there is a physical problem blocking it as far as I know. But outside of that the issue causes no limitation on the Pre-1,,,just an inconvenience and no more. Is this your issue?
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Post by eusebio on Apr 3, 2014 10:42:48 GMT -5
There is a known issue with the Pre-1, I personally don't think it's a big deal but I guess I should send a note to see if it needs to be returned for a fix or if I could do it at home. The dial will not turn back with the remote, there is a physical problem blocking it as far as I know. But outside of that the issue causes no limitation on the Pre-1,,,just an inconvenience and no more. Is this your issue? Nick No, I find the steps in the volume control to be similar to the 1st gen XDA-1. turning the volume level up 1 unit results in a large increase in volume.
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Post by novisnick on Apr 3, 2014 12:55:17 GMT -5
Yes, I've found this to be true. I'd call Emo but some people put ancinuators on there cables.
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Post by garbulky on Apr 3, 2014 12:57:09 GMT -5
There is a known issue with the Pre-1, I personally don't think it's a big deal but I guess I should send a note to see if it needs to be returned for a fix or if I could do it at home. The dial will not turn back with the remote, there is a physical problem blocking it as far as I know. But outside of that the issue causes no limitation on the Pre-1,,,just an inconvenience and no more. Is this your issue? Nick No, I find the steps in the volume control to be similar to the 1st gen XDA-1. turning the volume level up 1 unit results in a large increase in volume. Get yourself the control freak and use it with the Pre-1. This will allow you to have a much larger range in the volume control. You will bascally reduce the volume on the control freak until you reach the amount of change that you like on the pre-1 volume control
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Post by brubacca on Apr 3, 2014 13:10:52 GMT -5
Garbulky,
Have you tried this? Does it work? I am trying to justify it in my mind. Not understanding how the gain stages work is holding me back. Are pre-amp then amp stages multipliers or adders?
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Post by hemster on Apr 3, 2014 14:48:15 GMT -5
Yes, I've found this to be true. I'd call Emo but some people put ancinuators on there cables. Perhaps you're insinuating attenuators?
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Post by novisnick on Apr 3, 2014 15:01:12 GMT -5
And that's what friends are for,,,,thanks hemster!
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Post by kse on Apr 3, 2014 16:13:21 GMT -5
No, I find the steps in the volume control to be similar to the 1st gen XDA-1. turning the volume level up 1 unit results in a large increase in volume. Get yourself the control freak and use it with the Pre-1. This will allow you to have a much larger range in the volume control. You will bascally reduce the volume on the control freak until you reach the amount of change that you like on the pre-1 volume control No. This is foolishly redundant. Get yourself some 12db attenuators and call it a day. I don't have this issue on my PRE, my USP however suffered from this 'problem' and the Harrison Labs attenuators were the perfect solution.
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Post by garbulky on Apr 3, 2014 16:23:26 GMT -5
I used 12 db harrison labs attenuators and though they worked, they had a sound signature change. I happened to like the sound signature change but I found a passive potentiometer like the control freak had less of an alteration to the sound. Granted a potentiometer IS a resistor like the 12 db attenuators but that's been my experience. It costs about $25 more than the attenuators. That's why my reccomendation. Plus if it's not enough for you, you can turn it up, down whatever you need. BTW, not everybody experienced sound signature changes - just my personal experience.
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Post by garbulky on Apr 3, 2014 16:27:44 GMT -5
Garbulky, Have you tried this? Does it work? I am trying to justify it in my mind. Not understanding how the gain stages work is holding me back. Are pre-amp then amp stages multipliers or adders? Yeah, it does work. It basically acts as a second volume control before (or after) the USP-1. I've used it for ages with my XDA-1 to get over the lossy digital volume control (a passive pre-amp similar to the control freak). Works like a charm. I also found due to the nature of passive volume controls, you can "tune" the sound by varying the legnth of the wire. For instance, I use a rather long wire length and for some reason I like the resulting sound. It's hard to describe the changes. I don't know how gain stages work.
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Post by bub on Apr 3, 2014 19:41:23 GMT -5
I have the same situation. If dead silence is 12 o'clock , the show is over by 3 . I can live in that range. Just wondering if a change back to unbalanced instead of balanced would increase the range ? Thought I read somewhere that balanced could double the input signal ?
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