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Post by mepositive on Aug 21, 2014 8:47:17 GMT -5
Just curious - what is the current cost of your stereo set up in its entirety i.e. all separates, speakers, source (Cd player, TT etc), stands, room treatment if the room is dedicated to stereo, and cables.
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Post by Andrew Robinson on Aug 21, 2014 9:09:31 GMT -5
Just curious - what is the current cost of your stereo set up in its entirety i.e. all separates, speakers, source (Cd player, TT etc), stands, room treatment if the room is dedicated to stereo, and cables. I'll play along... My current setup:
Bang & Olufsen TX2 Turntable - $200 cash on Craigslist Bang & Olufsen Beolab 6000 speakers - $680/pair on ebay UMC-200 Processor - $599 XPS-1 Phono preamp - $149 Google Chromecast - $35 15ft RCA cables (for speakers) from Monoprice.com - $5.84/pair (I believe it was) 3ft RCA cables (phono preamp to processor) from Monoprice - $2.98/pair Elite Screen's CineTension2 Screen - $649-$999 (depending upon where you shop) SIM2 M.150 LED DLP Projector - (don't ask) Total: $1,671.82 (no video) Total w/ Video: $2,320.80 + realistic cost of a projector
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Post by novisnick on Aug 21, 2014 9:12:53 GMT -5
Is this an update from the previous survey ?
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Post by mgbpuff on Aug 21, 2014 9:36:46 GMT -5
These are the costs I paid at the time I acquired these: Revel Salon 2 speakers - $17,000 Music Hall 5.0 TT - $500 Cary SLP -03 preamp - $1500 (bought used) Music Hall Maverick SACD player - $1000 Music Fidelity 550K monoblocks - $2500 Olive 4HD Music Server - $2400 Perpetual Technology P-1A and P-3A dac system - $900 Clear Day Double Shotgun speaker cables (2 per speaker) $900 total PS Audio Power Plant Premier for sources - $1400 Shunyata Hydra 6 Power Conditioner - $1100 3 Shunyata Coppperhead power cables - $750 Custom acoustic panel between speakers - $600 Maple Shade equipment rack - $900 2 Maple Shade amp blocks - $500 total Various interconnects - approx $500
Total $32,450
(This is my best of 4 complete stereo systems)
current cost - you look it up - I don't have enough time in my life!
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Post by kse on Aug 21, 2014 9:53:19 GMT -5
Boston VR970: $1600 Emotiva XSP-1: $800 Emotiva XDA-1: $200 Emotiva ERC-1: $300 Emotiva pr. UPA-1: $600 AppleTV 3: $100 Monoprice interconnects: est. $75
Total: $3675
Truth be told, I bartered for the VR970s, and I've flipped some gear and done pretty well, so some of those prices could be netted down a little bit if we wanted to get really particular. I'd say out of pocket cost would probably be about half that number. Not too shabby.
The room was built specifically for HT/2ch, but the room was being done regardless so I'm not adding it to the equation.
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Post by djoel on Aug 21, 2014 10:37:17 GMT -5
XPA-5 gen 1 AMP -$799 UMC-200 Processor - $599 SAMSUNG BLU RAY PLAYER -$76 TIVO PREMIER $299 HTPC -$2300 APPLE TV G2 -$100 ASCEND SPEKERS -$6300 SAMSUNG PLASMA $2100 Not including cables, stand, power protector and some other miscellaneous items I have a $12,576
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Post by repeetavx on Aug 21, 2014 10:43:41 GMT -5
About $5000, but like Andrew, that's not including the projector or other surround sound components.
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Post by harri009 on Aug 21, 2014 10:48:18 GMT -5
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Post by AudioHTIT on Aug 21, 2014 10:51:50 GMT -5
Just curious - what is the current cost of your stereo set up in its entirety i.e. all separates, speakers, source (Cd player, TT etc), stands, room treatment if the room is dedicated to stereo, and cables. You specifically asked for 'stereo' setup, shouldn't this mean displays and anything only used for multichannel (like surround speakers) should be omitted?
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Post by Andrew Robinson on Aug 21, 2014 10:52:20 GMT -5
About $5000, but like Andrew, that's not including the projector or other surround sound components. My earlier quote was for my whole system, stereo and home theater. I didn't include the projector because a.) I didn't pay retail and b.) as good as the M.150 is (and it is), I don't believe it's realistic for 98% of everyday consumers. But minus that caveat, my reference setup cost me less than $2K. Even at $2K I think it's too much. Now, the system that gets the MOST playing time breaks down like this: Panasonic GT Series plasma (50" diagonal)- $699 Google Chromecast - $35 Vizio 2.1 Soundbar - $249 Monoprice articulated wall mount - $49 Total: $1,032It is through this setup that I do most of my movie watching and I have to say it kicks total @$$.
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Post by ttocs on Aug 21, 2014 11:24:02 GMT -5
Everything was purchased new. What I use for 2 channel listening only: Speakers: Martin Logan Vista $2,000 close-out special
Sub: Rel R-218 $1,300 Amp: Krell S1500/5 Bi-amp=4 channels $2,800 display model Preamp: Emotiva UMC-200 $500 CD Player: Denon DCD-1520 $900 CD Player: OPPO BDP-105 $860 Streamer: Apple TV $100 Line Conditioner: Panamax M5400-PM $480 Speaker cables and interconnects: $800 Cabinet: BDI Cirrus $1,100
Total for stereo listening: $10,840
I saved about $5,500 (total) off the normal selling prices of the amp and speakers by being able to buy at the right time and place. Some items double for video, but I use the listed items for stereo listening enjoyment, and like Kramer said when he went commando "and I'm lovin' every minute of it Jerry!".
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Post by DYohn on Aug 21, 2014 11:28:17 GMT -5
Amazing how this sort of thread keeps popping up.
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Post by sahmen on Aug 21, 2014 11:31:51 GMT -5
So Andrew, if I may ask a relatively private, but audio-related question : what happened to the XMC-1 which made a brief cameo in your sig last month? Or did I imagine it? If I am not imagining it, then may I ask why you seem to have favored keeping the UMC-200, as opposed to replacing it with the XMC-1, which you have praised quite a bit in your initial review?
Note: Please do not take his as some kind of "trick question" or attempt to put you on the spot. I ask only because I am genuinely curious. If you're not comfortable answering, I shall complete understand. Thanks.
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Post by Andrew Robinson on Aug 21, 2014 11:40:05 GMT -5
So Andrew, if I may ask a relatively private, but audio-related question : what happened to the XMC-1 which made a brief cameo in your sig last month? Or did I imagine it? If I am not imagining it, then may I ask why you seem to have favored keeping the UMC-200, as opposed to replacing it with the XMC-1, which you have praised quite a bit in your initial review? Note: Please do not take his as some kind of "trick question" or attempt to put you on the spot. I ask only because I am genuinely curious. If you're not comfortable answering, I shall complete understand. Thanks. I was beta testing the XMC-1 as well as reviewing it. At the end of which (both beta and reviewing it) I returned it to Emotiva, opting not to purchase it for it is simply too much processor for my everyday/personal needs. I was asked to add it to my signature during the beta/review period as a "tease". The XMC-1 is wonderful, truly, but given how I like to run my HT and such, much of what it (the XMC-1) can do would be "wasted" on a setup such as mine. I don't use triggers, I don't employ a great deal of EQ (subwoofer excluded), I don't need 8 HDMI inputs, etc. etc. For me the UMC-200 is more than enough, not to mention I also have a PT-7030 as well as an Integra DHC 80.3 waiting in the wings if I decide to go nuts down the road, so yet another processor, as smitten as I was by the XMC-1's sound, just didn't make a lot of sense for me at this juncture.
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Post by sahmen on Aug 21, 2014 11:52:24 GMT -5
So Andrew, if I may ask a relatively private, but audio-related question : what happened to the XMC-1 which made a brief cameo in your sig last month? Or did I imagine it? If I am not imagining it, then may I ask why you seem to have favored keeping the UMC-200, as opposed to replacing it with the XMC-1, which you have praised quite a bit in your initial review? Note: Please do not take his as some kind of "trick question" or attempt to put you on the spot. I ask only because I am genuinely curious. If you're not comfortable answering, I shall complete understand. Thanks. I was beta testing the XMC-1 as well as reviewing it. At the end of which (both beta and reviewing it) I returned it to Emotiva, opting not to purchase it for it is simply too much processor for my everyday/personal needs. I was asked to add it to my signature during the beta/review period as a "tease". The XMC-1 is wonderful, truly, but given how I like to run my HT and such, much of what it (the XMC-1) can do would be "wasted" on a setup such as mine. I don't use triggers, I don't employ a great deal of EQ (subwoofer excluded), I don't need 8 HDMI inputs, etc. etc. For me the UMC-200 is more than enough, not to mention I also have a PT-7030 as well as an Integra DHC 80.3 waiting in the wings if I decide to go nuts down the road, so yet another processor, as smitten as I was by the XMC-1's sound, just didn't make a lot of sense for me at this juncture. Thanks for the quick response. Currently, I am facing a somewhat similar dilemma of both wanting the XMC-1 very badly, and also suspecting that it might turn out to be "too much processor" for my purposes. Fortunately, there is no pressing need for me to make a decision on that immediately, so I have some time to think it through... Thanks again...
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Post by jmilton on Aug 21, 2014 13:17:07 GMT -5
I was beta testing the XMC-1 as well as reviewing it. At the end of which (both beta and reviewing it) I returned it to Emotiva, opting not to purchase it for it is simply too much processor for my everyday/personal needs. I was asked to add it to my signature during the beta/review period as a "tease". The XMC-1 is wonderful, truly, but given how I like to run my HT and such, much of what it (the XMC-1) can do would be "wasted" on a setup such as mine. I don't use triggers, I don't employ a great deal of EQ (subwoofer excluded), I don't need 8 HDMI inputs, etc. etc. For me the UMC-200 is more than enough, not to mention I also have a PT-7030 as well as an Integra DHC 80.3 waiting in the wings if I decide to go nuts down the road, so yet another processor, as smitten as I was by the XMC-1's sound, just didn't make a lot of sense for me at this juncture. Thanks for the quick response. Currently, I am facing a somewhat similar dilemma of both wanting the XMC-1 very badly, and also suspecting that it might turn out to be "too much processor" for my purposes. Fortunately, there is no pressing need for me to make a decision on that immediately, so I have some time to think it through... Thanks again... I feel the same as Andrew for similar reasons. Perhaps a UMC-500 would sway me
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Post by mepositive on Aug 21, 2014 14:41:06 GMT -5
I am quite surprised by the results so far. While a sample of 31 votes does not constitute a fair sample size, the nature of the results does surprise me. First off, how does Andrew get away with such a simple system? A short while ago he had the B&W speakers then the Pendragons became his reference pair etc...
Anyway, back to my initial point - given that one could pick up a good set of separates from Emotiva for approx 3000 USD or less, my sense was that the majority would have said that their stereo cost was between 4K and 8K. But it turns out that that group is only 16% of the poll so far !
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Post by DYohn on Aug 21, 2014 14:48:16 GMT -5
My speakers cost $8K. Each.
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Post by monkumonku on Aug 21, 2014 15:30:02 GMT -5
My speakers cost $8K. Each. My speakers cost $149. Each. Well, that was before the multiple speaker discount I got from Hsu, but I don't want to make them seem TOO inexpensive!
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Post by Andrew Robinson on Aug 21, 2014 15:36:32 GMT -5
First off, how does Andrew get away with such a simple system? A short while ago he had the B&W speakers then the Pendragons became his reference pair etc... How do I get away with such a simple system? It's easy, I only focus my energy (and money) on the items that provide me the biggest degree of performance. Setup within my room (free), the speakers themselves and the content I use most.While I like and have owned (or still) own passive loudspeakers such as the Bowers & Wilkins CT8.2 LCRS speakers, my preference is to use powered loudspeakers, which not only cuts down on my need for amps, it also cuts down on the number of speaker options I have to choose from. While I had Stealth 6s for the longest time, I've always had a soft spot for B&O, and finally took it upon myself to acquire some. Now I have them -a childhood dream realized really -and I'm not looking/going back. They're incredibly transparent, easy to use, efficient and small. My B&Os are in immaculate shape and check all the enjoyment boxes every speaker I've mentioned before do, only they do in their own way -as is the case with any loudspeaker. The B&Os are ICE powered, so amps become redundant, though if I were running my Bowers & Wilkins setup, I'd use my Crown XLS DriveCore amps, which are by no means expensive given a) how good they sound and b) the sheer amount of power they provide. With my speakers providing a one-two punch I put all of my attention on placing them just right in my room, which is completely free and will result in the greatest sonic enhancement, period. With my speakers placed, I have a true, three dimensional sound field with one of the strongest, and weightiest center images ever. My speakers are "invisible" in the sonic space, unable to be aurally located from my listening position -even when focusing my attention on one speaker opposed to the space between them. The center image doesn't even shift when off axis either, and, given the right source material, the need for surrounds can become questionable. So there's two of three criteria dealt with right there. The UMC-200 sounds amazing, and while not as good as the XMC-1, its more than 70% of the way there. I hate attributing arbitrary percentages to arbitrary comparisons, but I'd say the UMC-200 is 85% of the XMC-1 in terms of overall sound quality -if not a few ticks better. Just my opinion, but you asked so there it is. I primarily use my setup for music listening as it is what I enjoy most while working on video content elsewhere in the room. So my turntable takes priority, to which I have another B&O product in the TX2. The TX2 isn't made anymore, so I saved money by buying it second hand. All other source material is streamed via a Google Chromecast, which as I've demonstrated time and time again, is more than sufficient -and even on par with physical media in many regards. So that's how I do it. Before I went into assembling home theaters and/or stereos by taking stock of what I thought I needed. Once I trained myself NOT to do that (yes, it took years of training to undo that bad habit), assembling a system that truly compliments your budget and lifestyle is easy. You just cannot be upset or second guess yourself when it doesn't look the way you think it should look.
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