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Post by Axis on Jun 30, 2016 15:51:14 GMT -5
What I would like to see is media player built into the Stealth case. Just like the portable players that are very popular with the headphone guys. The player would use simple software and use the same OLED screen to view and select music files on Solid State drive that you would install yourself inside the case. The benefit of this is unlike with the portable players that need to be recharged, the Stealth player would use AC power. Nothing fancy and no streaming. The unit would be a player for whatever music files you prefer. Maybe not DSD but example FLAC, apple lossless or mp3. You install your loaded dive inside. No DAC, the output would be digital and you would feed it to your DC-1.
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Post by Thunderduck on Jul 9, 2016 16:08:10 GMT -5
Just received a used (in excellent condition) DC-1. I got it for my mother to use headphones with in order to hear tv or movies. Connected to the Record Out on my XMC-1. So far so good.
I knew this in advance, but must admit I am rather surprised that for a unit that has 2 Headphone jacks there is only 1 Volume control for both. If 2 people are going to use the DC-1 at the same time I doubt it very much that their hearing is going to be the same. It would seem that there should be 2 Volume controls, one for each headphone output.
Am I missing something in this regards? Really don't understand the thinking behind having one Volume control for 2 outputs. Oh well, much better minds than mine designed this equipment. My mother is enjoying the unit so enough said.
Regards to all.
Steve
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Post by garbulky on Jul 9, 2016 16:39:38 GMT -5
What I would like to see is media player built into the Stealth case. Just like the portable players that are very popular with the headphone guys. The player would use simple software and use the same OLED screen to view and select music files on Solid State drive that you would install yourself inside the case. The benefit of this is unlike with the portable players that need to be recharged, the Stealth player would use AC power. Nothing fancy and no streaming. The unit would be a player for whatever music files you prefer. Maybe not DSD but example FLAC, apple lossless or mp3. You install your loaded dive inside. No DAC, the output would be digital and you would feed it to your DC-1. That's a neat idea and would go well with the DC-1 stack with its monoblocks. Honestly that would be one heck of a compact high performance system imo. The size of an all in one system where you get to choose the parts! However I think there needs to be a way to get the files on to the hard drive easily to make sure the average joe can get his music on to the player. |
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Post by garbulky on Jul 9, 2016 16:46:18 GMT -5
Just received a used (in excellent condition) DC-1. I got it for my mother to use headphones with in order to hear tv or movies. Connected to the Record Out on my XMC-1. So far so good. I knew this in advance, but must admit I am rather surprised that for a unit that has 2 Headphone jacks there is only 1 Volume control for both. If 2 people are going to use the DC-1 at the same time I doubt it very much that their hearing is going to be the same. It would seem that there should be 2 Volume controls, one for each headphone output. Am I missing something in this regards? Really don't understand the thinking behind having one Volume control for 2 outputs. Oh well, much better minds than mine designed this equipment. My mother is enjoying the unit so enough said. Regards to all. Steve What they did was they do have two volume controls - but not for each headphone. They have a high quality resistor ladder on a chip volume control for the regular analog audio and a second separate one just for the headphones. So if you wanted independent controls, you would have to have three resistor ladder volume controls. It was probably left out due to that most of the time if there are two people listening to the DC-1, it would be on speakers rather than headphones. That and cost/complexity. |
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Post by novisnick on Jul 9, 2016 17:38:44 GMT -5
Just received a used (in excellent condition) DC-1. I got it for my mother to use headphones with in order to hear tv or movies. Connected to the Record Out on my XMC-1. So far so good. I knew this in advance, but must admit I am rather surprised that for a unit that has 2 Headphone jacks there is only 1 Volume control for both. If 2 people are going to use the DC-1 at the same time I doubt it very much that their hearing is going to be the same. It would seem that there should be 2 Volume controls, one for each headphone output. Am I missing something in this regards? Really don't understand the thinking behind having one Volume control for 2 outputs. Oh well, much better minds than mine designed this equipment. My mother is enjoying the unit so enough said. Regards to all. Steve What they did was they do have two volume controls - but not for each headphone. They have a high quality resistor ladder on a chip volume control for the regular analog audio and a second separate one just for the headphones. So if you wanted independent controls, you would have to have three resistor ladder volume controls. It was probably left out due to that most of the time if there are two people listening to the DC-1, it would be on speakers rather than headphones. That and cost/complexity. Also, the DC-1 was designed as a pro piece of gear. If you are recording music and are playing it back you would want both headsets to be identical. |
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Post by Axis on Jul 9, 2016 19:17:24 GMT -5
What I would like to see is media player built into the Stealth case. Just like the portable players that are very popular with the headphone guys. The player would use simple software and use the same OLED screen to view and select music files on Solid State drive that you would install yourself inside the case. The benefit of this is unlike with the portable players that need to be recharged, the Stealth player would use AC power. Nothing fancy and no streaming. The unit would be a player for whatever music files you prefer. Maybe not DSD but example FLAC, apple lossless or mp3. You install your loaded dive inside. No DAC, the output would be digital and you would feed it to your DC-1. That's a neat idea and would go well with the DC-1 stack with its monoblocks. Honestly that would be one heck of a compact high performance system imo. The size of an all in one system where you get to choose the parts! However I think there needs to be a way to get the files on to the hard drive easily to make sure the average joe can get his music on to the player. Nope Garbulky. Just a Solid State Hard Drive tray inside. All your files already installed properly in folders. You could have a USB connection to just the hard drive to add or remove files. You want to keep the software associated with the player as simple as needed. Scroll to select and play. Keep the development and product cost low as possible. You could have a SSD hot swap bay on something like this but that would just add to the cost. |
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Post by garbulky on Jul 9, 2016 20:51:55 GMT -5
That's a neat idea and would go well with the DC-1 stack with its monoblocks. Honestly that would be one heck of a compact high performance system imo. The size of an all in one system where you get to choose the parts! However I think there needs to be a way to get the files on to the hard drive easily to make sure the average joe can get his music on to the player. Nope Garbulky. Just a Solid State Hard Drive tray inside. All your files already installed properly in folders. You could have a USB connection to just the hard drive to add or remove files. You want to keep the software associated with the player as simple as needed. Scroll to select and play. Keep the development and product cost low as possible. You could have a SSD hot swap bay on something like this but that would just add to the cost. Okay so like a smartphone. You take the entire unit and plug it in to your PC right? That seems simple. in one way. I wonder though we have to think about hte regular user. They'll have to figure out how to make folders, organize them on the hard drive etc which they likely could. The bigger issue is that if you want to put music on it your music source needs to be close to it. So if it's a desktop pc you have to move the PC or unplug the player from everything and move it to the pc whenever you want to add music. Maybe if it had wifi and connected to the network and shared itself as a network drive that may be more "portable" like? |
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Post by Thunderduck on Jul 9, 2016 21:28:01 GMT -5
Thanks all for the explanation concerning the headphone volume control. Makes sense.
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Post by Axis on Jul 9, 2016 21:45:47 GMT -5
Only way we get this Garbulky is for it to be as simple and low cost as possible. This is for a DC-1 period. Your a professional and you already know how to have music files structured on a drive. This is not for someone that can not do it even if they have instructions. The whole point of this is to have music files with the DC-1 standalone from a computer. KeithL will tell you all day that you can get a laptop for $300 and it will do a better job than anything else. I understand that but a laptop is not what I would want to stack with my DC-1. Right now I use my Sony Walkman connected to my DC-1 as a player. This would be just a simple player in a DC-1 chassis.  |
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Post by Axis on Jul 12, 2016 8:11:06 GMT -5
garbulky I have been researching standalone digital music players. I thought something similar to this device would be something that could be paired with a DC-1 for a standalone system. It would be Emotiva gear at a Emotiva price and not necessarily with all the features these units provide in order to keep the cost down. It is standalone with a simple interface. It has a internal hard drive for storage. It has only digital output. Aurender X100S ($2,999) Aurender X100L ($3,499) parttimeaudiophile.com/2014/09/19/review-aurender-x100l-music-server/  
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Post by garbulky on Jul 12, 2016 10:42:26 GMT -5
^Usb only though. This limits the DACs that can be used with them. I agree that looks like a nice simple high quality layout.
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Post by Axis on Jul 12, 2016 10:50:08 GMT -5
^Usb only though. This limits the DACs that can be used with them. I agree that looks like a nice simple high quality layout. It could have all the same digital outputs that the DC-1 has for digital inputs. Not limiting the one Emotiva would build to anything that has already been made. There may be ways to make a player that has great features but does not have a high cost. It would be a matching component to the DC-1. A laptop as KeithL has recommended will work great but again would not stack with a small foot print that a dedicated music player would in the same DC-1 chassis. It would only need to be a digital source for music files with an AC power supply. |
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Post by garbulky on Jul 12, 2016 11:43:52 GMT -5
^Usb only though. This limits the DACs that can be used with them. I agree that looks like a nice simple high quality layout. It could have all the same digital outputs that the DC-1 has for digital inputs. Not limiting the one Emotiva would build to anything that has already been made. There may be ways to make a player that has great features but does not have a high cost. It would be a matching component to the DC-1. A laptop as KeithL has recommended will work great but again would not stack with a small foot print that a dedicated music player would in the same DC-1 chassis. It would only need to be a digital source for music files with an AC power supply. Emotiva had somethign similar to this going. It was in early prototype stage. But they cancelled it for some reason. |
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Post by Axis on Jul 12, 2016 12:00:29 GMT -5
It could have all the same digital outputs that the DC-1 has for digital inputs. Not limiting the one Emotiva would build to anything that has already been made. There may be ways to make a player that has great features but does not have a high cost. It would be a matching component to the DC-1. A laptop as KeithL has recommended will work great but again would not stack with a small foot print that a dedicated music player would in the same DC-1 chassis. It would only need to be a digital source for music files with an AC power supply. Emotiva had somethign similar to this going. It was in early prototype stage. But they cancelled it for some reason. I remember it. I am thinking it was a streaming device. I know that there are many here that stream and use servers and music streaming services. I understand there is a lot of interest in this but the device I am suggesting is none of those. I picture someone who has a music recording mixing station. They are using the DC-1 at that station as a preamp for there monitors. There may or may not be a computer at that station. There could be a SD slot or USB thumb drive input on the front of this device. They have digital audio files they wish to listen to with the DC-1 and Stealth powered monitors. I also picture someone that uses a DC-1 and Stealth monitors for a very high end small footprint audio system. It is not near a computer. It stands alone in a location that may not have much real estate for large devices. They use it strictly as a digital source with all there music files already installed. |
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Post by rockman85 on Jul 27, 2016 16:28:44 GMT -5
I love the DC-1, I bought a second one just for work to use with headphones. Sound is sublime.
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Post by novisnick on Jul 27, 2016 16:57:30 GMT -5
I love the DC-1, I bought a second one just for work to use with headphones. Sound is sublime. I know the feeling,,,,,almost!  I've purchased and sold mine, then regretted it and relized I needed it, Soooooooo I purchased another one. I really dought this one leaves me.. Just a great sounding, utilitarian, compact DAC!  |
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