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Post by jmilton on Sept 3, 2014 14:17:12 GMT -5
Keith....Sorry, but a horn and tuba do not have a reed. You are describing a woodwind instrument.
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Post by unsound on Sept 3, 2014 14:36:02 GMT -5
These, I believe are designed for the next generation of Dolby Atmos. It's called Dolby Fatmos. I wonder if the one after that would be called Dolby Fatmofos!
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Post by KeithL on Sept 3, 2014 14:51:11 GMT -5
I think you're looking at it the wrong way...... The question is really how much they weigh, and how much they're charging ABOVE THE SPOT PRICE FOR GOLD. If you're spending $5 million for $5 million in gold that just happens to be in the form of a speaker - then it might still be a good investment (if you like gold as an investment). But, if you're paying $5 million for only $4 million worth of gold, then it's not a good deal at all. LOL! My bad, I thought Atmos topped out at 32 channels. Looks like I may have to take grandma's picture down to make room for more speakers. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Atmos"The first generation cinema hardware, the "Dolby Atmos Cinema Processor" supports up to 128 discrete audio tracks and up to 64 unique speaker feeds." Of course I seriously doubt the home market will ever reach this number. It's taken this long for a very small % of people and discs to be 7.1. But if the electronics people need something to sell, you never know. Might take 50 years to get there, but...... Personally I'd bet more on Sony's patented "in brain" receiver before people spent the time and money putting in 64 speakers. Sony's system would let you watch and listen to stuff directly "inside you brain." Oh boy!!! Back on topic, now at 7+ million a pair U.S.D. for these gold speakers, for 64 channels and 50 years worth of inflation, how much will that all cost? ??
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Post by mgbpuff on Sept 3, 2014 14:51:18 GMT -5
You could 3D print an elephant turd in gold and sell it for more. It would be 'purty', at least to an elephant, and it 'wouldn't smell' just like Johnny Bench's Blu-Emu ointment.
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Post by paintedklown on Sept 3, 2014 14:53:18 GMT -5
I think you're looking at it the wrong way...... The question is really how much they weigh, and how much they're charging ABOVE THE SPOT PRICE FOR GOLD. If you're spending $5 million for $5 million in gold that just happens to be in the form of a speaker - then it might still be a good investment (if you like gold as an investment). But, if you're paying $5 million for only $4 million worth of gold, then it's not a good deal at all. Not sure why, but this made me literally LOL at work. True words and good advice though.
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Post by garbulky on Sept 3, 2014 15:49:11 GMT -5
HART AUDIO D&W Aural pleasure review My journey with the aural pleasure speaker was a bit of an eventful one. The first time I heard of this fantastic speaker, I knew this was exactly what I needed. I would usually look around my room and say....what we need is more gold and this was an answer to our prayers! The first time I ordered the speakers, I sent it via ground shipping and for some reason never recieved it. The post office told me that I had not requested a signature and so they left it at my door. So I guess some IDIOT stole it. Who does that?! After some negotiations, the post office agreed to refund $500 which was the maximum insurance you could put on it. So apparently I was out $4,999,500 dolalrs. The next time, I was smart, I ordered it as next day WITH signature required. Nobody would be able to pull the wool over my eyes. I told all my neighbors about how I had made sure about that. Well long story short, it was stolen again. Some hooligan had signed for it with "ha ha". Luckily the post office had to pony up for that big gaffe! Some people, I tell you. On the third attempt, the speakers finally made it into the room. Initial impressions: I really like the look of these speakers. It matched the look of my mayan/inca deco. My wife liked it as it matched her diamond studded iphone Also we had a huge problem with a lack of light in our room as one of our light bulbs had burnt out. Luckily this was an easy fix. All I had to do was open the windows and the room is filled with golden light reflecting off these speakers. Onto the most important part of my purchase: THE SOUND: I don't know much about sound. I previously had a really nice sound system called Bose. My impressions is that the speakers compared favorably to this. My wife says everything sounds like it's coming out of the end of a trumpet which I guess is a good thing. When I asked her what it meant she said that "I think it's worth its weight in gold". I heartily agree! Highly reccomended!
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Post by DYohn on Sept 3, 2014 15:56:26 GMT -5
I've never understood the joy some people take in making fun of things like this, or of how the wealthy choose to spend their money in general. While I agree that spending $5M on a set of speakers seems foolish, I also sure do wish I was in that sort of financial position that I COULD, and I'm willing to bet there's not one of you who would not jump at the chance to be there with me.
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Post by KeithL on Sept 3, 2014 15:57:46 GMT -5
Personally, I'm thinking cast iron.... it has a nice "earthy" sound to it.... (and it's a lot cheaper than gold) Wonder how much they charge for a pair of speakers made in, Papier-mache'? Maybe I could fork up the cash for those! May have to turn down the bass a bit, so they don't fly apart. There ain't nothing chewed up paper can't do.
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Post by paintedklown on Sept 3, 2014 16:08:53 GMT -5
I've never understood the joy some people take in making fun of things like this, or of how the wealthy choose to spend their money in general. While I agree that spending $5M on a set of speakers seems foolish, I also sure do wish I was in that sort of financial position that I COULD, and I'm willing to bet there's not one of you who would not jump at the chance to be there with me. I would love to be in such a financial position. No doubt about that. I think that speakers covered in gold get made fun of because adding the gold does not make it a better performing/sounding speaker in the least bit. It's simply there to add to the price tag IMO. I guess I feel that "bling" and speakers don't need to mix. If I were THAT wealthy (and so inclined) I would just buy the best sounding speakers I could find and have them gold plated/covered in gold? Even then, it seems rather ridiculous to do so IMO. It doesn't make sense to me...
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Post by KeithL on Sept 3, 2014 16:17:21 GMT -5
I'm afraid it's the same "joy" we get from seeing someone get hit in the face with a pie.... Personally, I'd love to be in the position where I could feel good about deciding not to waste my money on stuff like this rather than simply not being able to afford it. However, knowing that some rich people are so stupid that they waste their money on junk like this does make me feel better about not being able to afford to do so... (the fact that at least some millionaires can spend that much money, and end up with a stereo that isn't even as good as mine, makes me feel better about not being able to afford a more expensive one). Just as we laugh when we see that pie strike home, we tend to laugh when we see it proven that rich folks really aren't any smarter than we are.... and, at least in some narrow contexts, aren't any better off than we are. Obviously, I can think of lots of things I'd spend $5 million on - and I like to think that all of them are more worthwhile than $5 million solid-gold speakers.... especially ones that are so badly designed that I still have to jam them into the corners to get decent bass out of them. For that much money they should at least be GOOD. And I also agree that I think glittery speakers look STUPID. I'd take nice, real, hand rubbed solid walnut over those any day, and at any price. I've never understood the joy some people take in making fun of things like this, or of how the wealthy choose to spend their money in general. While I agree that spending $5M on a set of speakers seems foolish, I also sure do wish I was in that sort of financial position that I COULD, and I'm willing to bet there's not one of you who would not jump at the chance to be there with me.
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Post by Bonzo on Sept 3, 2014 16:25:51 GMT -5
I think you're looking at it the wrong way...... The question is really how much they weigh, and how much they're charging ABOVE THE SPOT PRICE FOR GOLD. If you're spending $5 million for $5 million in gold that just happens to be in the form of a speaker - then it might still be a good investment (if you like gold as an investment). But, if you're paying $5 million for only $4 million worth of gold, then it's not a good deal at all. Wow, you're right! Point well taken.
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Post by Bonzo on Sept 3, 2014 16:31:12 GMT -5
I've never understood the joy some people take in making fun of things like this, or of how the wealthy choose to spend their money in general. While I agree that spending $5M on a set of speakers seems foolish, I also sure do wish I was in that sort of financial position that I COULD, and I'm willing to bet there's not one of you who would not jump at the chance to be there with me. The only thing truly worth making fun of is the value score given to these in the review. 3 stars out of 5? If you don't agree that's ridiculous then we will just have to agree to disagree. These should get, at best, 1 star out of 5 in value. If I could go negative, as in -5, that would be my score. I don't give sh*t how good they sound, 7+ million for 2 speakers is not a good value.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 16:34:41 GMT -5
I'm not sure if the paper grocery sacks at our local Fred Meyer supermarket (Kroger) are large enough to cover these exceptionally ugly speakers. They even charge for the shopping bags here now! I'll have to look in the garage to see if I have any of those free paper shopping bags left that I occasionally (I usually didn't get that drunk) used in my single/drinking/dating years.
I don't care if they really do sound better than Bose. Even if I did like the looks they are considerably out of my best bang for the buck price range.
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Post by Dark Ranger on Sept 3, 2014 16:38:47 GMT -5
So a friend of my boss's mistress told me he got an e-mail from a Nigerian Prince stating that HART AUDIO is being sued for copyright violation. Apparently D&W Aural Pleasure is too close to the legendary B&W Oral Pleasure series.
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Post by garbulky on Sept 3, 2014 16:43:25 GMT -5
Well....I don't know what's the issue here. As a person who recognizes true value, I gave a highly reccomended to these speakers. Note the savings I made in lightbulbs alone! I took off 1 star because they were out of stock of the gold subwoofer.
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Post by monkumonku on Sept 3, 2014 16:51:05 GMT -5
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Post by monkumonku on Sept 3, 2014 16:52:54 GMT -5
I've never understood the joy some people take in making fun of things like this, or of how the wealthy choose to spend their money in general. While I agree that spending $5M on a set of speakers seems foolish, I also sure do wish I was in that sort of financial position that I COULD, and I'm willing to bet there's not one of you who would not jump at the chance to be there with me. I would love to be in such a financial position. No doubt about that. I think that speakers covered in gold get made fun of because adding the gold does not make it a better performing/sounding speaker in the least bit. It's simply there to add to the price tag IMO. I guess I feel that "bling" and speakers don't need to mix. If I were THAT wealthy (and so inclined) I would just buy the best sounding speakers I could find and have them gold plated/covered in gold? Even then, it seems rather ridiculous to do so IMO. It doesn't make sense to me... Gold watches don't keep any better time, either.
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Post by Bonzo on Sept 3, 2014 17:10:42 GMT -5
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Post by deltadube on Sept 3, 2014 17:16:34 GMT -5
(Note that I didn't read the review... so I'm going on the quote from it...) The comment about "lack of coloration" being "like a brass instrument" is in fact the precise OPPOSITE of true. (And it rather suggests that the reviewer doesn't actually know what he's talking about.) The sound in a brass horn (like a trumpet or a tuba) originates in a little reed vibrating because you're blowing air across it; and all that reed will produce by itself is a sort of pathetic buzzing noise. (I think it's also modulating the air stream, so add to that a sort of hissing sputtering noise.) It is the COLORATION imparted by the brass horn that CREATES the characteristic sound of a brass instrument. The characteristic sound comes from the shape of the air passages, the shape of the bell, and how the sound vibrations ricochet around the metal parts. (Even things like the hardness of the metal from which the horn is made affect the sound; cymbals get that nice "tizzy" sound because the metal is turned to thickness, which makes it very hard, and so causes the vibrations to ricochet around inside in a particular way.) If you could somehow "play regular music" through a trumpet, it would come out sounding rather like trumpet music - or rather like something halfway in between - but the point is that it would be heavily colored by having passed through the trumpet. So, if that speaker "sounded like brass", it would be a very poor sounding speaker indeed. (Herb Alpert might come out sounding "very sharp and brassy", but so would Elvis Presley... and Madonna... and Snoop Dog.) I've heard this point confused before by reviewers who (presumably) know something about musical instruments - but not much about high fidelity. A musical instrument is PRODUCING music; as such, you WANT it to impart a particular (pleasant) sound; that's what it DOES. In direct contrast, a loudspeaker REPRODUCES music, which is quite a different thing. A speaker is supposed to reproduce the original sound, and NOT impart its own particular sound to what you play through it. Any speaker that, on its own, sounds like brass, or wood, or titanium, or whatever, is a very poor speaker.... what it should sound like is "whatever you play through it". If you look at a well designed horn speaker, it utilizes the specific impedance matching characteristics of the horn shape, but does its best to SUPPRESS the other characteristics of the materials used to make it. (A wooden horn shouldn't sound like wood, a fiberglas horn shouldn't sound like fiberglas, and a brass horn certainly shouldn't sound like brass.) It's not unreasonable to make a speaker out of brass... but that's because brass is a reasonably good structural material. Brass has a pretty good strength to weight ratio and, while it's stiffness would tend to cause all sorts of coloration, it should be possible to suppress most of that by properly damping the cabinet. (If you look at brass horn instruments, they are usually made of thin brass which vibrates easily. Horn speakers usually use very heavy metal, often of a softer type, which limits vibration, or a thinner metal, but mounted so the bell of the horn - where most of the vibrations occur - is attached to the mounting surface.) Of course, materials like MDF, which has higher internal damping, and weighs a lot less, work better. Gold should actually work reasonably well for a speaker because, like lead, it is soft and very dense, which should tend to suppress vibration to some degree (of course lead would be more effective, and a lot cheaper, but not nearly as exotic). All giggles aside regarding the price etc, I did find the review to be a good read in that the actual (ugly!) shape of this enclosure has such a dramatic affect on the sound. The usual edition is cast in bronze and is about $80,000 - the gold edition is um, extra... He mentions in one part how it probably isn't that much different from a brass musical instrument - the units appear to produce very tight, fast and superbly controlled attacks with little or no coloration. They are not the deepest in bass repo but then the manual suggests positioning them in the corners of the room - something not usually recommended but here it seems to compensate for their lack of lower boot. Wonder what a similar shape made from some other material like thick alloy would sound like? keith just to let you know with brass instruments like the tuba, baratone, trombone, trumpet French horn etc there is no litte reed that vibrates its your lips in the mouth piece... little reeds are on wind instruments like a sax or clarinet cheers
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Post by deltadube on Sept 3, 2014 17:20:30 GMT -5
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