4sfed
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Post by 4sfed on Sept 15, 2014 23:29:07 GMT -5
Hi guys, i am trying to understand the differences between the Gen 1 and gen 2 XPA-5 Amp. I could of sworn i saw a thread on this a while ago but after searching high and low i couldn't find it again.
Basically my situation is that i am in the market for an XPA-5 to go with my new (stuck in customs) XMC-1. I have found an amp locally (Australia) that is a Gen 1 that will probably work out $800+ cheaper than trying to import a brand new Gen 2, so its looking very tempting. Saying that, i wanted to understand the main differences between the Gen 1 and 2 to allow me to make an educated decision.
Thanks!
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Post by novisnick on Sept 15, 2014 23:40:29 GMT -5
Hi and welcome, so glad you reached out to us! We're hear for ya!
The gen 1 has an amplifier gain of 32 db, styling, silver trim, remainder of warranty if any?
The gen 2 has an amplifier gain of 29 db, styling black beveled trim that matches the XMC-1, new 5 year factory warranty!
I'm sure others may find something I've missed.
Just a few things to consider.
Hope this helps.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 15, 2014 23:46:44 GMT -5
I'd bet you'd have a hard time finding $800 of difference between the two. The lower gain of the Gen2 might be helpful if you have very efficient speakers, but otherwise the Gen2 is mostly fine tuning an already good design. Nick mentioned the Warranty which would normally be important, but in Australia I don't know if you'd really be able to take advantage of it. I'd go for the G1.
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Post by novisnick on Sept 15, 2014 23:54:03 GMT -5
I'd bet you'd have a hard time finding $800 of difference between the two. The lower gain of the Gen2 might be helpful if you have very efficient speakers, but otherwise the Gen2 is mostly fine tuning an already good design. Nick mentioned the Warranty which would normally be important, but in Australia I don't know if you'd really be able to take advantage of it. I'd go for the G1. True!  |
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Post by 4sfed on Sept 16, 2014 0:05:10 GMT -5
Awesome thanks guys! Gut feel was it probably wasn't worth the significant price difference for a G2 unless there was some massive shortcoming in the G1 that was fixed. Sounds like that really isn't the case.
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Post by garbulky on Sept 16, 2014 1:16:14 GMT -5
stick with gen 1
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Post by chicagorspec on Sept 16, 2014 7:34:51 GMT -5
Gen 2 cases are constructed a little differently, supposed to be a bit more robust, and they use Tiffany-style RCA connectors. Nice, but as others said wouldn't be worth that price difference to me. Good luck with your choice and the XMC-1!
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Post by sct on Sept 16, 2014 8:06:54 GMT -5
As Chicagorspec mentioned, the biggest difference is that the Gen2 has better RCA connectors. If you constantly swap your amp in and out this will be an issue. If not, you should most certainly go with the Gen1 - those connectors are not worth $800. You could even buy a Gen1 and have the connectors replaced for less than $200 if it becomes an issue. Or, use the XLR connectors and don't worry about it....
SCT
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Post by 4sfed on Sept 17, 2014 16:37:48 GMT -5
Thanks all. I picked up the Gen 1 yesterday and i can see the that a couple of the RCAs are a little "wobbly". I popped the top off it and had a look - doesn't look like a hard replacement if they cause me issues. I will rarely if ever swap the RCAs over so i think i will only need to replace them if they have drop outs. God dam this thing is big and heavy!  |
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Post by cheapthryl on Sept 17, 2014 17:47:25 GMT -5
Heavy ? It doesn't even weigh a hundred pounds  Enjoy |
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Post by 4sfed on Sept 18, 2014 0:22:32 GMT -5
Considering i weigh about 140 pounds its tough to maneuver |
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Post by pjmbarlick on Jul 27, 2015 4:04:53 GMT -5
Hey I am also in Australia and considering buying one of these amps...and also considering the XMC-1.
Can you tell me what you think of this setup?
I wish Emotiva would get their act together and find an Aussie distributor, or a shipping company that offered sensible fees, and a returns policy that didn't require a "return to base"
The XMC-1 is probably the best value prepro around at the moment, and I am already a Dirac user and I know and understand just how important Dirac is in the processor, so the XMC-1 is the best option.
The XPA-5 is exactly the amp I need not only for my current setup, but also for the future with the XMC-1, so your views on this would be gratefully received!!!
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Post by garbulky on Jul 27, 2015 10:13:16 GMT -5
Hi....this setup would be excellent. However keep in mind that blu ray 4k is going to come out and it's possible the audio standards may change to include Dolby Atmos which the XMC-1 will not do. Though it will still play the 7.1 nest signal inside atmos.
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Post by macromicroman on Jul 27, 2015 15:41:31 GMT -5
Don't forget DTS-X and Auro 3D also. You will only need a new processor and a couple more amps and interconnects in order to play a couple of movies. I think only about 9 movies are now in Dolby Atmos. It may develop that after everybody gets Dolby Atmos working movies will switch to DTS-X (most movies are now in DTS HD) and then you can start all over again (of course the speakers and amps will still work).
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Post by DoodFromNJ on Nov 2, 2017 14:49:12 GMT -5
Don't forget DTS-X and Auro 3D also. You will only need a new processor and a couple more amps and interconnects in order to play a couple of movies. I think only about 9 movies are now in Dolby Atmos. It may develop that after everybody gets Dolby Atmos working movies will switch to DTS-X (most movies are now in DTS HD) and then you can start all over again (of course the speakers and amps will still work). Is Gen 2 XPA 5 capable of playing ATMOS |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 2, 2017 14:54:40 GMT -5
Don't forget DTS-X and Auro 3D also. You will only need a new processor and a couple more amps and interconnects in order to play a couple of movies. I think only about 9 movies are now in Dolby Atmos. It may develop that after everybody gets Dolby Atmos working movies will switch to DTS-X (most movies are now in DTS HD) and then you can start all over again (of course the speakers and amps will still work). Is Gen 2 XPA 5 capable of playing ATMOS Yes, Atmos will change the requirement for the number of channels you might need, but doesn’t require any special type of amplification. That said, the minimum number of channels most people would use is 7, with a 5.1.2 system. So you’d probably still need at least 2 more channels with this amp, possibly more. |
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Post by DoodFromNJ on Nov 2, 2017 14:58:14 GMT -5
Thinking of investing in a Yamaha 3050 or similar receiver and wondering if in 5.1.4 setup, I could use AMP for 5 and 4 in ceiling could be powered straight from RX . No ?
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Post by Bonzo on Nov 2, 2017 16:17:08 GMT -5
Thinking of investing in a Yamaha 3050 or similar receiver and wondering if in 5.1.4 setup, I could use AMP for 5 and 4 in ceiling could be powered straight from RX . No ? Yes, you could most certainly do that as long as the receiver has the pre-amp RCA outputs. |
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