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Post by garbulky on Oct 9, 2014 16:20:59 GMT -5
Garbulky, I hear ya on all points, and agree. But you have really sparked an idea here. Maybe instead of a bass and treble knob, the XSP-1 could have two sweepable PEQ's with each PEQ knob having it's own volume. That way you could cut/boost any frequency anywhere you wanted. You could use both of them in the HF area, i.e., to taylor the high end how you wanted, or use them anywhere else you saw fit. I could see where this might be really beneficial with turntables. I would think you could definitely dial in "more bite" as you call it. It would do that, but for my application, I have no use to tinker with the sound too much. So for me, it would be unnecessary complexity. But I can see where others may like that idea. I would suggest Emotiva produce a different unit that does all that in the analog zone and simply feed it back to the XSP-1. This way the pre-amp is kept more pure. For me the "bite" can be fixed with even better sound quality. I know that DAC direct the air and treble bite is there. So it's not NECESSARILY an eq matter. Not to say that the XSP-1 doesn't do treble, it does and pretty well imo. For instance cymbals have a very natural metallic tone to them and I can't fault that. It's just that last 10% of greatness which comes with a loud SPLASH when a cymbal is hit if yo uget my drift. What I'm going to do next time I'm auditioning it is to try the treble trims and maybe alter speaker positioning. |
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Post by linvincible on Oct 10, 2014 1:18:54 GMT -5
- Definitely crossover improvements Delay and level control per channel (both H and L for L and R), as well as slope choices. Combined and digitally controlled like the current "Trim" settings, or switches just like the Stealth speakers... That would be a serious XO! maybe as an optional card to control cost on base unit? - more trigger outputs (at least a second one) configurable by mini switches to link them to inputs/outputs - turn on/off second output when it's in full bandwith that way we can make a zone 2 with its own trigger with enhancement above The whole point of an analog pre-amp is not to alter the signal path digitally. What I would recommend is that you look at a processor rather than an analog pre-amp to get this type of functionality. : there is no digital conversion in the XSP-1 trim, it's a digital control of analog circuits. Like a digital volume control on an analog device. As I picture it in my mind it's a digital circuit that controls and shapes the analog circuit the signal will go through. Is that the wrong idea? |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 10, 2014 6:03:43 GMT -5
The whole point of an analog pre-amp is not to alter the signal path digitally. What I would recommend is that you look at a processor rather than an analog pre-amp to get this type of functionality. : there is no digital conversion in the XSP-1 trim, it's a digital control of analog circuits. Like a digital volume control on an analog device. As I picture it in my mind it's a digital circuit that controls and shapes the analog circuit the signal will go through. Is that the wrong idea? I was about to clarify that for stiehl, glad you did, I think this is an important one. The rear crossover controls are just too inconvenient and limit you to setting at installation and hoping you got it right. This really needs to be a remote control item. True tape loop and naming inputs too. Then there's the dual subwoofer HT Bypass, but at some point I think the feature set will move into an RSP-1 type product, that may be one of them. Try to keep the XSP-200 around $500, the XSP-1 (2,3,etc) around $1000 and the RSP-1 $1500 to $2K. |
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Post by edrummereasye on Oct 10, 2014 15:12:26 GMT -5
Garbulky, I hear ya on all points, and agree. But you have really sparked an idea here. Maybe instead of a bass and treble knob, the XSP-1 could have two sweepable PEQ's with each PEQ knob having it's own volume. That way you could cut/boost any frequency anywhere you wanted. You could use both of them in the HF area, i.e., to taylor the high end how you wanted, or use them anywhere else you saw fit. I could see where this might be really beneficial with turntables. I would think you could definitely dial in "more bite" as you call it. I think that's the kind of thing for which they provided "processor out/processor in"... not a bad idea, but some people might want a different kind of PEQ, some people wouldn't want it at all, and wouldn't want to pay for it...and some people would screw up the settings completely and then call Emotiva to complain  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2014 15:47:10 GMT -5
edrummereasye - "I think that's the kind of thing for which they provided "processor out/processor in"... not a bad idea, but some people might want a different kind of PEQ, some people wouldn't want it at all, and wouldn't want to pay for it...and some people would screw up the settings completely and then call Emotiva to complain"
The processor loop would handle a PEQ (although many pro grade PEQ's use XLR). Having two PEQ's onboard though, with each having a wide frequency sweep, and volume cut/boost for each of those frequencies, would be infinitely more flexible than just having two volume knobs that only affected two frequencies on the XSP-1:
HF trim (settings): -3 dB, -2 dB, -1 dB, Flat, +1 dB, +2 dB, +3 dB @ 12 kHz
LF trim (settings): -3 dB, -2 dB, -1 dB, Flat, +1 dB, +2 dB, +3 dB @ 50 Hz
It might be too cost prohibitive for sure. But it's nice to explore having those as a possible option. Maybe have an option to turn them "off" for those who didn't want to use them.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Oct 10, 2014 19:14:21 GMT -5
Maybe have an option to turn them "off" for those who didn't want to use them. Like the current tone controls which must be turned off to maintain a differential signal path. |
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Post by linvincible on Oct 14, 2014 12:05:18 GMT -5
Does anyone of you use the dual outputs for subwoofer in HT bypass?
they just replicate what comes in from sub input, and not replicate the L and R input like for BAL1 and BAL2...
the effect of this is that as I use those outputs for bi-amping it works great for BAL1 and BAL2 but I have a hole from 250 to 400Hz on HT Bypass input...
If instead the dual suboofer outputs were replicating the L and R inputs, just like on BAL1 and BAL2, that would be a true full bandwith bi-amp.
Sub imput would still be routed to single sub output
anyway people having subs in addition can always wire them directly from the HT source...
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