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Aug 10, 2015 11:03:06 GMT -5
Post by altloff on Aug 10, 2015 11:03:06 GMT -5
20 channels, it least for Atmos may be an issue. Some of the preliminary discussion on the Datasat thread (AVS) seems to indicate the Dolby Atmos upgrade card will only support 4 overhead speakers (9.x.4). The indication is its a Dolby issue not a Datasat one. A similar question has appeared on the Theta thread with no response yet. Although the Atmos HT version significantly lowers the numbers of objects supported vs the theater version, it should support more speakers than that. Trinnov is a pure software implementation and does not appear to have this limitation. I haven't seen anything about DTS having this limitation. Oh, I know, I was sort of kidding about the 20, even though the max is higher. In reality I'm hoping that DTS pushes Dolby to 9.2.8 to give us matching height to bed layouts, but even 9.2.6 from them would be very welcomed. (I actually really did like my old 11.1.10 layout, extra two being back corners between the surrounds and the rears w/ corresponding heights, but I do have a pretty big room.)
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Aug 10, 2015 12:06:34 GMT -5
Post by lesliew on Aug 10, 2015 12:06:34 GMT -5
20 channels, it least for Atmos may be an issue. Some of the preliminary discussion on the Datasat thread (AVS) seems to indicate the Dolby Atmos upgrade card will only support 4 overhead speakers (9.x.4). The indication is its a Dolby issue not a Datasat one. A similar question has appeared on the Theta thread with no response yet. Although the Atmos HT version significantly lowers the numbers of objects supported vs the theater version, it should support more speakers than that. Trinnov is a pure software implementation and does not appear to have this limitation. I haven't seen anything about DTS having this limitation. More than likely a limitation of the current gen DSP hardware. Dolby just creates the framework. They can put anything down on paper it takes the dsp manufacturers to create the hardware that decodes the signal coming off the disc so if there is a reason why they can't do more than 4 overhead speakers its a limitation of the DSP chipset that they are putting into consumer hardware.
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Aug 10, 2015 14:28:41 GMT -5
Post by socketman on Aug 10, 2015 14:28:41 GMT -5
To make a 16 channel pre/pro feasible they should develop an amp with at least 8 channels/medium power for the height and surround duties. I could not imagine having more xpa 3's or 5's
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Aug 10, 2015 15:04:59 GMT -5
Post by lesliew on Aug 10, 2015 15:04:59 GMT -5
To make a 16 channel pre/pro feasible they should develop an amp with at least 8 channels/medium power for the height and surround duties. I could not imagine having more xpa 3's or 5's I know Yamaha has a pretty decent 11 channel amp the MX-A5000, run two of those in a 16 channel setup and you still have enough channels spare to bi-amp your LCR
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Aug 10, 2015 15:15:47 GMT -5
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Post by Lsc on Aug 10, 2015 15:15:47 GMT -5
To make a 16 channel pre/pro feasible they should develop an amp with at least 8 channels/medium power for the height and surround duties. I could not imagine having more xpa 3's or 5's Or 16 XPR-1s
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Post by Bonzo on Aug 10, 2015 15:36:13 GMT -5
To make a 16 channel pre/pro feasible they should develop an amp with at least 8 channels/medium power for the height and surround duties. I could not imagine having more xpa 3's or 5's Or 16 XPR-1s 32 if you can bi-amp your speakers.
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Post by jjkessler on Aug 10, 2015 15:51:32 GMT -5
+ a second job to pay the power bill. Turn home theater on, whole neighborhood dims
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Aug 11, 2015 1:34:16 GMT -5
Post by altloff on Aug 11, 2015 1:34:16 GMT -5
Lol, it'll be like the scene from "Christmas Vacation".
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Aug 11, 2015 9:29:44 GMT -5
Post by novisnick on Aug 11, 2015 9:29:44 GMT -5
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Aug 12, 2015 1:22:24 GMT -5
Post by altloff on Aug 12, 2015 1:22:24 GMT -5
Card came today, had to put it in the safe so the gf didn't mistake it for some cheesy store discount card and pitch it. Now for the suffering of the wait and speculation....
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Aug 12, 2015 7:47:39 GMT -5
Post by pletwals on Aug 12, 2015 7:47:39 GMT -5
It's no Dolby issue either but a current chipset limitation is my understanding.
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Aug 12, 2015 7:51:08 GMT -5
Post by pletwals on Aug 12, 2015 7:51:08 GMT -5
20 channels, it least for Atmos may be an issue. Some of the preliminary discussion on the Datasat thread (AVS) seems to indicate the Dolby Atmos upgrade card will only support 4 overhead speakers (9.x.4). The indication is its a Dolby issue not a Datasat one. A similar question has appeared on the Theta thread with no response yet. Although the Atmos HT version significantly lowers the numbers of objects supported vs the theater version, it should support more speakers than that. Trinnov is a pure software implementation and does not appear to have this limitation. I haven't seen anything about DTS having this limitation.
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Aug 12, 2015 14:16:57 GMT -5
Post by saverio on Aug 12, 2015 14:16:57 GMT -5
+ a second job to pay the power bill. Turn home theater on, whole neighborhood dims Plus an additional 400 amp electrical panel.
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Aug 12, 2015 14:21:41 GMT -5
Post by Bonzo on Aug 12, 2015 14:21:41 GMT -5
+ a second job to pay the power bill. Turn home theater on, whole neighborhood dims Plus an additional 400 amp electrical panel. I already have (2) 200 amp panels so does that count?
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Aug 14, 2015 13:23:01 GMT -5
Post by wizardofoz on Aug 14, 2015 13:23:01 GMT -5
I'm about to be upgraded from 32A to 40A...you don't know how lucyk you are...even at 240V that's not a lot to work with for a 1500sqft home in the tropics.
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Aug 14, 2015 15:24:04 GMT -5
Post by Erwin.BE on Aug 14, 2015 15:24:04 GMT -5
I'm about to be upgraded from 32A to 40A...you don't know how lucyk you are...even at 240V that's not a lot to work with for a 1500sqft home in the tropics. Airlie Beach? You poor fellow!
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Aug 15, 2015 3:14:36 GMT -5
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Post by richardrc on Aug 15, 2015 3:14:36 GMT -5
I'm about to be upgraded from 32A to 40A...you don't know how lucyk you are...even at 240V that's not a lot to work with for a 1500sqft home in the tropics. Better turn off one of the ACs to watch a movie ;-)
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Aug 24, 2015 10:56:51 GMT -5
Post by Bonzo on Aug 24, 2015 10:56:51 GMT -5
SURROUND SOUND PROCESSING EFFECTS
So I'm going to shift conversation back to XMR-1 features.
It just hit me for the first time this weekend that I think the XMC-1 is lacking a big feature I like to have available in my system. Until this weekend it never dawned on me, but I believe the XMC-1 lacks surround sound effects processing settings (Stadium, Music Hall, etc). Please correct me if I’m wrong.
I know I know, these features are typically reserved for non-audiophiles, and most people probably never use them. I’m sure that’s what 99% of the rest of you here will be replying to tell me; why would you want something so stupid as artificial processing? BUT, there is one time when I really do like to use them, and that is when I listen to live recordings. It’s not something I use every day or every week or every month, but it is something I like to use occasionally, and if I had to live without it I wouldn’t be as happy with my equipment.
For example, this weekend I finally got a chance to sit down and listen to the String Cheese Incident CD’s I bought of the Red Rocks show I attended last month. I put them in and started listening. It was really good, but it wasn’t great, because it didn’t sound like I was THERE. Then I remembered the surround sound effects settings in my Denon receiver and started switching between them. When I got to Super Stadium a big smile came across my face and it changed the entire listening experience. I was THERE again. I told my wife, THIS is what it sounded like being at the show. I was stoked!
Another good example is Led Zeppelin’s Celebration CD. Without the surround sound processing (I think it’s Super Stadium again), the show just sounds flat. With the processing turned on, it’s much more as if you are there in the O2 arena with the rest of the audience. Without the Stadium processing turned on, I don’t even like listening to that CD much.
One thing I should probably note, is that for live bootlegs etc, I prefer a good audience recording over a straight up soundboard. Audience matrixed soundboards can be very nice if done well, but nothing beats a good audience recording for the “feel” of actually being at the show.
So I doubt the XMC-1 will ever have this sort of feature, but if the XMR-1 is to truly be the piece de resistance Emotiva is claiming, I think it should have this. Frankly, if it doesn’t come with this feature, I’m afraid it just might not be for me either. I might have to look elsewhere.
So the question becomes, how hard is it to add this sort of function to the processor Emotiva is putting in the XMR-1? Is it costly, or is it almost a freebie once it’s implemented?
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Aug 24, 2015 11:51:43 GMT -5
Post by millst on Aug 24, 2015 11:51:43 GMT -5
Nothing comes free. Even if the code came free with the DSP, it has to be documented and supported: phone, mail, bugfixes, etc. Emotiva's stance has been to keep things as simple as possible. It lowers costs and makes the product easier to use. I appreciate not having to cycle through lots of modes and options that I don't care about, but also understand the pain of missing a feature that didn't make their cut.
I'm guessing they won't change their position for the XMR. You could always use an external player that can add those effects. Several computer programs should let you accomplish that.
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Post by goodfellas27 on Aug 24, 2015 12:28:35 GMT -5
Not having DLNA is what tick me off
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