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Post by chaosrv on May 28, 2015 12:30:37 GMT -5
Hollywood needs to stop this nonsense.
Rebooting movie after movie whether the original was good or bad.
Changing virtually everything about the story & characters to make it nearly unrecognizable but retaining just enough so they can use the same movie title.
Some reboots have been great, some have been well.. terrible.
This time, however, they have gone too far. The line has not only been crossed but obliterated.
Just like buildings can be granted landmark status so their facades (and sometimes interiors) cannot be changed, we need to come up with something similar for movies.
A landmark status for films preventing anyone from re-making them due to their place in history as a truly great film or an important representation of its time period/genre.
Until we can make this happen, Hollywood will continue to pillage our cherished cinematic history. This will force Hollywood to invest in new ideas and stories and give wider exposure to the independent movie scene.
You know what? I cannot even blame Hollywood entirely for this trend. They want to sell tickets & media licensing (dvds, blu ray, other tie-ins etc..) and they know this formula works. We need to stand up and tell them no more!
This is the last straw for me. The original movie is as near to perfection as you can get. Change a few names and this remake is practically unrecognizable as a remake. And yet, look at me. I'm here writing a post on a forum voicing my displeasure. Yet displeasure or not, I'm still spreading the word of this movie for them and kills me.
Hollywood, you should be ashamed.
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Post by garbulky on May 28, 2015 12:40:51 GMT -5
Thankfully I haven't watched the old point break! Though Keanu Reeves and Broseph here isn't very encouraging.   Now what annoyed me was the spiderman reboot and the superman returns reboot which were both dead in the water imo. (The spidey movie was dead in the water after the second, the first being barely passable.) |
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Post by jmilton on May 28, 2015 12:43:17 GMT -5
I think you guys are going to love the Gilligan's Island Movie later this year.
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Post by drtrey3 on May 28, 2015 12:49:54 GMT -5
The corporate entertainment world looks for what they consider proven money making releases. New material is always a financial risk, unless you have someone in the company who is in touch with the media buying public enough to have a good idea of what new material will sell. These people are rare! Most entertainment business people work basically as bean counters. So to them, the third or fourth remake of Superman will be worth X million dollars in their mind just because of the way they think. The only way I can figure to change their behavior is to avoid their products in droves!
Trey - who was married to a music executive
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Post by ÈlTwo on May 28, 2015 13:58:39 GMT -5
Remakes = Hollywood :
3:10 to Yuma, 1957 & 2007,
Angels in the Outfield 1951 & 1994,
Cat People 1942 & 1982,
The Day the Earth Stood Still 1951 & 2008,
Here Comes Mr. Jordan 1941 - Heaven Can Wait 1978 - Down to Earth 2001,
Flight of the Phoenix 1965 & 2004,
The Jazz Singer - 1927, 1952 & 1984,
King Solomon's Mines - 1937, 1959, 1985, 2004,
The Prisoner of Zenda 1937, 1952, 1979,
A Star is Born - 1937, 1954, 1976,
and one where everyone only knows the remake:
The Ten Commandments - 1923 & 1956,
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Post by jmilton on May 28, 2015 14:12:36 GMT -5
Remakes = Hollywood : 3:10 to Yuma, 1957 & 2007, Angels in the Outfield 1951 & 1994, Cat People 1942 & 1982, The Day the Earth Stood Still 1951 & 2008, Here Comes Mr. Jordan 1941 - Heaven Can Wait 1978 - Down to Earth 2001, Flight of the Phoenix 1965 & 2004, The Jazz Singer - 1927, 1952 & 1984, King Solomon's Mines - 1937, 1959, 1985, 2004, The Prisoner of Zenda 1937, 1952, 1979, A Star is Born - 1937, 1954, 1976, and one where everyone only knows the remake: The Ten Commandments - 1923 & 1956, You have not even scratched the surface:  Sometimes I think Hollywood is just in it for the money. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_remakes_%28A%E2%80%93M%29 |
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Post by chaosrv on May 28, 2015 14:23:58 GMT -5
To paraphrase Bill Pulman in Spaceball: They're not just doing it for money. They're doing it for a sh*tload of money.
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Post by sahmen on May 28, 2015 14:27:57 GMT -5
The point about greed, quick profits, and the cheapening of seminal or canonical narrative pieces is well taken. However, given that this is at the bottom, a matter of storytelling, let's not forget the big picture: It is in human nature to recycle stories, and this behavior long predates Hollywood: In fact if you're prepared to look closely enough, it wouldn't take you too long to realize that most of your hallowed classics, canonical pieces, epics, myths, etc. etc. are themselves rip-offs of previously existing, sometimes, lesser known narratives.
Hollywood has not invented anything new here; they have just latched on to an old, all too human penchant for ripping off anterior cultural treasures, and accelerated the process... Maybe, by that "acceleration," they've also banalized, demystified, and desenchanted, the process, and robbed our world of some of its magic, its mysteries and powers of enchantment...Just saying, they did not exactly start this business of "messing with perfection." But Enough rambling already...
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Post by ÈlTwo on May 28, 2015 15:05:09 GMT -5
Like West Side Story is Romeo & Juliet, and The Lion King is Hamlet?
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Post by Nodscene on May 28, 2015 16:48:02 GMT -5
Good timing on stepping in because...well yeah haha.
I don't understand why they are using the name if it has nothing to do with the original movie. I found the latest spiderman reboot better than the original by far, but to be on point, at least it follows the storyline. Point Break has a certain feeling about it, it embraces the surfing culture not only in storyline but also philosophy to a certain extent.
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Post by qdtjni on May 28, 2015 17:09:08 GMT -5
Like West Side Story is Romeo & Juliet, and The Lion King is Hamlet? That's silly, there are no lions in Denmark.  |
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Post by vcautokid on May 28, 2015 17:10:54 GMT -5
I totally agree with this imagination on Pause in Hollywood. Will Guilligan' Island come back too. Now there is X files reboot. Many many more re dos coming up. I wonder if the audience that they are hoping to engage would be that excited again for the first time. As long as there is an audience for Hollywood to play it again Sam, Hollywood is only too happy to oblige.
Now please Hollywood, shock is with an original thought that No one will remember. Make something new. Thank you.
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Post by qdtjni on May 28, 2015 17:17:50 GMT -5
You know, nobody is forced to watch those movies.
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Post by sahmen on May 28, 2015 17:59:26 GMT -5
Like West Side Story is Romeo & Juliet, and The Lion King is Hamlet? That's silly, there are no lions in Denmark. Wow! I guess you're going to be equally dismissive and say "there are no motorcycle gangs in Denmark," when you're confronted with the rather palpable Hamlet themes in the _Sons of Anarchy_   or that "there is no Samcro in Jerusalem," when you see the rather obvious references to the sacrificial ethos of the passion of Christ at the end of the series: ***Note: Some images previously posted here have been removed by me, out of respect for the concerns of Spoiler-allergic forum readers.... |
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Post by qdtjni on May 28, 2015 18:12:18 GMT -5
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Post by sahmen on May 28, 2015 18:26:47 GMT -5
Understood!  |
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Post by chaosrv on May 29, 2015 7:49:13 GMT -5
That's silly, there are no lions in Denmark. Wow! I guess you're going to be equally dismissive and say "there are no motorcycle gangs in Denmark," when you're confronted with the rather palpable Hamlet themes in the _Sons of Anarchy_ or that "there is no Samcro in Jerusalem," when you see the rather obvious references to the sacrificial ethos of the passion of Christ at the end of the series: Yeah, I'm still watching it on Netflix...thanks. |
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Post by bootman on May 29, 2015 8:23:47 GMT -5
Why are we all quick to assume that the current movie going generation have watched all of the previous movies us old geezers know? Folks, the truth is these remakes are not for those who love the originals. They are for those who have not seen the originals (or don't even know they existed!) If it makes the "originals" known to a new generation of moviegoers, what's the problem again? ...and as far as the statement that Hollywood is only in it for the money, well duh!. It is a business. And it drives us to buy gear for this hobby. You want only art films, go see them at art school presentations. They are there. |
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Post by Nodscene on May 29, 2015 10:23:44 GMT -5
I'm not going to quote this post either but thanks for ruining the ending of that show for me and at least one other. At least post spoilers a$$hole.
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Post by chaosrv on May 29, 2015 10:47:30 GMT -5
Why are we all quick to assume that the current movie going generation have watched all of the previous movies us old geezers know? Folks, the truth is these remakes are not for those who love the originals. They are for those who have not seen the originals (or don't even know they existed!) If it makes the "originals" known to a new generation of moviegoers, what's the problem again? ...and as far as the statement that Hollywood is only in it for the money, well duh!. It is a business. And it drives us to buy gear for this hobby. You want only art films, go see them at art school presentations. They are there. I do own one movie with "Art School" in the title but it isn't the type of movie you'd see at most art schools. It is an important movie in its own right as it marks the screen debut of one of the most prolific actors of our age: James Deen. (not to be confused with James Dean) |
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Sometimes I think Hollywood is just in it for the money.
