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Post by jmilton on Aug 10, 2015 9:33:48 GMT -5
Got a UHDTV? Want to watch UHD movies but don't want to stream them? Can't wait for a UHD Blu-ray player to arrive? buy4kuhd.com/ |
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Post by ÈlTwo on Aug 10, 2015 9:50:11 GMT -5
9 choices, and nothing I'd want to watch.
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Post by dudeisms7 on Aug 10, 2015 9:53:19 GMT -5
Nice! This looks quite interesting. This does bring up something in my mind that bothers me. Don't get me wrong I love the idea of 4k and 8k displays... The sharper the resolution... Yes please. It's the viabilty of delivery systems that bothers me. I know there are a handful of sources in which you can stream this content, and sure it is out there. But, what I find rather bothersome, is that all the ISP's and service providers of both broadband and television complain about having limited bandwidth. I'm sure on some level this is also a suspect arguement to try and leverage higher prices...but on some level I don't think these providers in their current state can handle mass numbers of the public drawing large amounts of bandwidth for super high resolution content. Not to mention we all have bandwith and data caps written into our contrast with these service providers. Sure some don't enf the caps currently and some do in order to get more money out of you on top of already inflated broadband and cable packages. I think moving forward this is going to be an interesting space to watch as the equipment manufacturers, the public, and the source providers are all going to be at odds with the ISP's and service providers.
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Post by jmilton on Aug 10, 2015 10:28:29 GMT -5
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Post by chaosrv on Aug 10, 2015 11:35:53 GMT -5
I'd prefer disc over stick. Provided you have a "good" disc player.
As updates to the standards roll out hardware firmware will need to be updated as well.
A 3+ year old player from Oppo is more likely to see an update than a 6 month old TV from pretty much anyone.
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Post by garbulky on Aug 10, 2015 12:15:12 GMT -5
Nice! This looks quite interesting. This does bring up something in my mind that bothers me. Don't get me wrong I love the idea of 4k and 8k displays... The sharper the resolution... Yes please. It's the viabilty of delivery systems that bothers me. I know there are a handful of sources in which you can stream this content, and sure it is out there. But, what I find rather bothersome, is that all the ISP's and service providers of both broadband and television complain about having limited bandwidth. I'm sure on some level this is also a suspect arguement to try and leverage higher prices...but on some level I don't think these providers in their current state can handle mass numbers of the public drawing large amounts of bandwidth for super high resolution content. Not to mention we all have bandwith and data caps written into our contrast with these service providers. Sure some don't enf the caps currently and some do in order to get more money out of you on top of already inflated broadband and cable packages. I think moving forward this is going to be an interesting space to watch as the equipment manufacturers, the public, and the source providers are all going to be at odds with the ISP's and service providers. Yes datacaps! I think it's ridiculous. There is no way you could realistically shift to 4k watching for your media with those in place. Unless you are okay with paying more. |
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Post by ÈlTwo on Aug 10, 2015 13:03:30 GMT -5
If they didn't carry all the crappy channels there would be more than adequate bandwidth, especially with HEVC as jmilton mentioned.
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Post by KeithL on Aug 10, 2015 16:18:56 GMT -5
If you dig around, you can see actual numbers.....
As of last year, something like 2/3 of Netflix customers didn't have enough reliable bandwidth to get regular HD content.
(So how many have enough bandwidth to get 4k?)
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Post by Gary Cook on Aug 10, 2015 16:25:59 GMT -5
If they didn't carry all the crappy channels there would be more than adequate bandwidth, especially with HEVC as jmilton mentioned. Unfortunately some people watch the "crappy channels", well, channels that I don't watch. I have no use for children's channels, kids are grown up, but the next door neighbours look after their grandchildren 3 days a week and if their channels were removed they'd cancel their subscription. The 'greenie' channels, who watches them, the hippies over the road would be my guess. Lifestyle channels, OMG, some people couldn't live without their daily feast of Kardashians. As for pawn (no I didn't spell it wrong) I have no use for recycled old wares. Unfortunately one person's "crappy channel" is another's life. Cheers Gary |
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Post by stiehl11 on Aug 10, 2015 20:45:29 GMT -5
Shouldn't this be called, "movies... on a stick!"  |
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Post by redog on Aug 10, 2015 20:51:54 GMT -5
Bandwidth is just a way for Internet companies to charge us outrageous amounts of money. The infrastructure already exists to provide all the bandwidth needed to stream UHD.
My wife is the kardashian freak you speak of.
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Post by ÈlTwo on Aug 10, 2015 21:43:15 GMT -5
I'm sorry . . . Baseball, Football, Velocity, PBS and BBC America. Do I need anything else?
Oh, yes, and Amazon Prime (especially since they killed Top Gear on BBC).
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Post by dudeisms7 on Aug 10, 2015 22:11:35 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong I think its all cool, and things will make progress as always. But the compression or HEVC still uses half of space that the most efficient current encoding does... and 4K is 4x the resolution... so thats still quite a bit of bandwidth. Netflix requires what something like 25mbps... lots of folks still don't have that... and that is just one connected device. |
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