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Post by Gary Cook on Nov 6, 2015 1:08:11 GMT -5
So far I can tell a difference in the A,A/B mode. I am not playing them loud but when I do play them louder I wonder if I will be able to detect the 35w transition? As most have discovered it's not a night and day difference, nor is it supposed to be. It's very subtle and not noticeable in a lot of music. I can sometimes pick it, mostly in music with violins, right hand piano, harp, and some female voices. Sometimes I think I'm imagining it, but then it's right there. Cheers Gary
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Post by hemster on Nov 6, 2015 1:10:21 GMT -5
You'll have to play them very loud but can you detect the 35w transition? I rather doubt it but do let us know!
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Post by afterburnt on Dec 3, 2015 19:10:00 GMT -5
Turns out I have no need to play loud so I doubt that I have crossed the threshold. However these Ushers are really great speakers. I cant wait to get a set that are further up the chain.
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Post by afterburnt on Mar 2, 2016 0:54:35 GMT -5
Those will be more worthy of the 1L's than the Polks I have had the Ushers for a good bit now and they are outstanding! I will eventually get some Diamonds. my question now is would it be wise to stack the L1's? I need room for new gear on my shelf and boy do they run hot!
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Post by creimes on Mar 2, 2016 1:24:18 GMT -5
Those will be more worthy of the 1L's than the Polks I have had the Ushers for a good bit now and they are outstanding! I will eventually get some Diamonds. my question now is would it be wise to stack the L1's? I need room for new gear on my shelf and boy do they run hot! You can stack them, if running Class A mode I would get some sort of fan for it Can you fit one of these between it, Ivor has one for sale emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/46116/fs-sherbourn-c12-cooling-fan
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Post by afterburnt on Mar 2, 2016 23:45:59 GMT -5
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Post by fbczar on Mar 3, 2016 8:47:34 GMT -5
I ordered a pair of XPA-1L's and for the time being I only have some Polk Monitor 60 II's to run them with. I currently have an XPA-3 hooked up. I will eventually replace the 60's with 70's. Does anyone think that there will be a noticeable difference with either speaker? Going forward what speakers will pair well with the 1L's? The XPA-1L's are great amps. I am fortunate to have an XMC-1, two XPA-1L's and a pair of TDL Reference Standard speakers and the combo is magic. If you have an XMC-1 the XPA-1L's are really a no brainer given the fact that the XMC-1 and XPA-1L are both fully differentially balanced. I doubt any amp is better than the XPA-1L for the price. I am a big believer that a system is limited by its weakest link. No doubt speakers make a huge difference, but every link in the chain is important. The XPA-1L's are a great long term investment.
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Post by afterburnt on Mar 4, 2016 20:42:37 GMT -5
I wanted to make room for a real SACD player. I ended up getting a Sony Blue Ray play that does SACD. It is small so it fits where the old one was.
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Post by solidstate on Mar 18, 2016 18:01:25 GMT -5
I wish the XPA-1L was still available.
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Post by JKCashin on Mar 18, 2016 20:05:30 GMT -5
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Post by cheddar on Mar 18, 2016 20:30:43 GMT -5
Put more money into speakers and less into the electronics. Then you'll hear a large difference. Polk Monitors can be driven quite easily with a decent AVR. good advice.
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Post by garbulky on Mar 18, 2016 21:20:43 GMT -5
I wish the XPA-1L was still available. Hey we missed ya. What have you been doing?
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Post by novisnick on Mar 18, 2016 21:31:48 GMT -5
I wish the XPA-1L was still available. Hey we missed ya. What have you been doing? What garbulky said! Hope you've been well! there may be a USA based XPA-1L available. I may need some funding.
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Post by odedia on May 20, 2017 3:07:16 GMT -5
So based on comments above - I have an XPA-3 (Gen 1). And GoldenEar Triton Twos.
Will upgrading to the XPA-1L provide any meaningful difference for such speakers or is the above recommendation still holds?
I also have an XSP-1 preamp (Gen 1 as well).
Thanks.
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Post by brutiarti on May 20, 2017 7:23:20 GMT -5
So based on comments above - I have an XPA-3 (Gen 1). And GoldenEar Triton Twos. Will upgrading to the XPA-1L provide any meaningful difference for such speakers or is the above recommendation still holds? I also have an XSP-1 preamp (Gen 1 as well). Thanks. Depending on your source you might be able to take advantage of a fully balanced configuration with the xpa-1L's. But not necessarily a significant difference will be heard, that will depend if the speakers like class a power, your room , ears , ownership bias, etc. The good thing is that you can rest assured that you speakers are getting the cleanest signal with a fully balanced config.
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Post by vcautokid on May 20, 2017 8:19:13 GMT -5
That is easy. It depends on your expectations. Night and over the Xpa-3? Nope. The ability to experience the class A switch and the virtues of monobkocks. Could be profound, or not. I am a fan of the Studio 100. Great speaker. You might want to give the new Emotiva T1 speaker a listen. Punchy and dynamic, and we'll controlled. It entertains nice with great sense of presence and excitement. Don't let its size fool you either. The sound is very grand. Coupled with about any amplifier, the T1 is a Winner for anything you may want to play. As long as we are talking options here.
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Post by odedia on May 21, 2017 11:49:48 GMT -5
That is easy. It depends on your expectations. Night and over the Xpa-3? Nope. The ability to experience the class A switch and the virtues of monobkocks. Could be profound, or not. I am a fan of the Studio 100. Great speaker. You might want to give the new Emotiva T1 speaker a listen. Punchy and dynamic, and we'll controlled. It entertains nice with great sense of presence and excitement. Don't let its size fool you either. The sound is very grand. Coupled with about any amplifier, the T1 is a Winner for anything you may want to play. As long as we are talking options here. Thanks. Yes, my sources are upgraded Rega RP3 turntable and a PSAudio Nuwave DSD DAC. both sound excellent. In the original review of the GoldenEar triton twos on stereophiles, they mentioned how incredibly better they sounded when coupled with a mere 2 watts tube amp compared to a standard amp (don't remember what they used). That's why I am wondering.
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Post by leonski on May 21, 2017 14:28:42 GMT -5
Run into a resistor-like EASY load of moderate sensitivity, reasonable impedance, and NOT into clipping, it is very doubtful you'll hear any difference other than imaginary.
As the speaker gets more reactive with potentially higher impedance swings and maybe even lower sensitivity (trifecta of bad load) you will start hearing differences
to the extent the amps are incapable of driving such loads.
As for the Above, GoldenEar Tritons? I'll bet, based on what odedia says that even my Parts Express DTA-1 would make 'em work fine.
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Post by Gary Cook on May 21, 2017 16:07:40 GMT -5
So based on comments above - I have an XPA-3 (Gen 1). And GoldenEar Triton Twos. Will upgrading to the XPA-1L provide any meaningful difference for such speakers or is the above recommendation still holds? I also have an XSP-1 preamp (Gen 1 as well). Thanks. As per my previous post, a night and day difference I don't believe so. But that said, in my system there was a noticeable difference between feeding the rack mounted XPA-5 via short RCA's with 5 metre long speaker cables, compared to long fully balanced connections via XLR's between the XSP-1 and the XPA-1L's which are located next to their respective speaker with very short speaker cables. Total silence between tracks with no audible external interference is the most obvious, followed by superior 3D imaging. Instruments like violins, right hand piano and cymbals often sound clearer/cleaner in Class A. Without a quick change back to back comparison other differences in the overall sound quality are hard to pick. I went for the XPA-1L's, not just because of their internal perceived sound improvements, I did it so that I could make all of the changes, interconnects, speaker cables and location which is a monoblock advantage. That said, I'm very happy that I made the change and would do it again without hesitation. Cheers Gary
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Post by novisnick on May 21, 2017 16:58:26 GMT -5
So based on comments above - I have an XPA-3 (Gen 1). And GoldenEar Triton Twos. Will upgrading to the XPA-1L provide any meaningful difference for such speakers or is the above recommendation still holds? I also have an XSP-1 preamp (Gen 1 as well). Thanks. As per my previous post, a night and day difference I don't believe so. But that said, in my system there was a noticeable difference between feeding the rack mounted XPA-5 via short RCA's with 5 metre long speaker cables, compared to long fully balanced connections via XLR's between the XSP-1 and the XPA-1L's which are located next to their respective speaker with very short speaker cables. Total silence between tracks with no audible external interference is the most obvious, followed by superior 3D imaging. Instruments like violins, right hand piano and cymbals often sound clearer/cleaner in Class A. Without a quick change back to back comparison other differences in the overall sound quality are hard to pick. I went for the XPA-1L's, not just because of their internal perceived sound improvements, I did it so that I could make all of the changes, interconnects, speaker cables and location which is a monoblock advantage. That said, I'm very happy that I made the change and would do it again without hesitation. Cheers Gary What Gary says! I agree!!
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