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Post by novisnick on Nov 2, 2015 14:44:34 GMT -5
The XPR series uses a class H power supply. When this engages to switching the rails there is a jump in distortion - very slight. There is no such jump in distortion in the XPA series. The XPA-1 gen 2 also has greater class A power than the XPR series. Im still waiting for the distortion,,,,,,how long should I wait???  |
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Post by garbulky on Nov 2, 2015 14:47:10 GMT -5
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Post by novisnick on Nov 2, 2015 14:51:06 GMT -5
Its either audible or its not. Its really, not. So it makes no difference,,,,,,,,,,I've read around here somewhere,,,,,inaudible is inaudible! I believe it. No? |
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Post by garbulky on Nov 2, 2015 15:07:22 GMT -5
Its either audible or its not. Its really, not. So it makes no difference,,,,,,,,,,I've read around here somewhere,,,,,inaudible is inaudible! I believe it. No? You shouldn't  Because the problem with inaudibility is that ALL Emotiva amps spec to inaudiblity not just the monoblocks. Here it's usually agreed that about 0.5% or 1%thd is inaudible. So if you feel the monoblocks are better then then your experience doesn't agree with the inaudibility spec  |
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Post by novisnick on Nov 2, 2015 15:35:13 GMT -5
Its either audible or its not. Its really, not. So it makes no difference,,,,,,,,,,I've read around here somewhere,,,,,inaudible is inaudible! I believe it. No? You shouldn't Because the problem with inaudibility is that ALL Emotiva amps spec to inaudiblity not just the monoblocks. Here it's usually agreed that about 0.5% or 1%thd is inaudible. So if you feel the monoblocks are better then then your experience doesn't agree with the inaudibility spec Arg!! Ya caught me,,,,,he,,,,he,,,,he,,,,,,, your sharp!,,,,,,I says,,,,,,,I says,,,,,,,,your sharp!!,,,,,,,,
Dance with me !! I says,,,,,,dance!!  |
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Post by garbulky on Nov 2, 2015 15:46:36 GMT -5
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Post by dvcdude on Nov 2, 2015 16:11:35 GMT -5
I'm in your same situation although I'm about to find out how the monos compare to a good 2 channel. I have an XPR2 in the basement and a Parasound A21 that I will be doing a shootout with against the new XPR 1s. Scott  I am very interested in the results. I have a friend who is a "Halo" guy and swears if I ever hear a Halo amp in my system I will sell my amp and upgrade immediately. Says I will never want to listen to anything else again. :-) |
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Post by wilburthegoose on Nov 2, 2015 16:13:00 GMT -5
After the SNAFU with my SA-250, I picked up an A21. Friggin' amazing piece of equipment. Or, as my wife said, "There's no way you're sending that back!"
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Post by simpleman68 on Nov 2, 2015 16:30:21 GMT -5
I'm in your same situation although I'm about to find out how the monos compare to a good 2 channel. I have an XPR2 in the basement and a Parasound A21 that I will be doing a shootout with against the new XPR 1s. Scott I am very interested in the results. I have a friend who is a "Halo" guy and swears if I ever hear a Halo amp in my system I will sell my amp and upgrade immediately. Says I will never want to listen to anything else again. :-) I will be sure to post up the review. I'm really interested to see the differences between the 3 amps. Scott |
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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 2, 2015 17:01:51 GMT -5
...Specs from KEF are: Sensitivity: 93dB KEF was somewhat optimistic... Although KEF is more honest than most manufacturers when it comes to specification veracity, their sensitivity numbers, IMHO, are still "market driven." Don't get me wrong - KEF isn't DefTech (whose numbers come from the Twilight Zone), but they can occasionally err on the side of marketing. I've owned 104.3 speakers myself, and they just didn't impress me as being 90+ dB sensitive at one watt & one meter. Boomzilla |
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Post by hlevinson on Nov 2, 2015 18:12:30 GMT -5
...Specs from KEF are: Sensitivity: 93dB KEF was somewhat optimistic... Although KEF is more honest than most manufacturers when it comes to specification veracity, their sensitivity numbers, IMHO, are still "market driven." Don't get me wrong - KEF isn't DefTech (whose numbers come from the Twilight Zone), but they can occasionally err on the side of marketing. I've owned 104.3 speakers myself, and they just didn't impress me as being 90+ dB sensitive at one watt & one meter. Boomzilla i have never seen a KEF 104.3, did you mean 103.4? Those are definitely a few notches below the bigger 104.2 and 105.3 of that era (Still decent, but not top of the line), |
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Post by DavidR on Nov 2, 2015 18:59:11 GMT -5
After the SNAFU with my SA-250, I picked up an A21. Friggin' amazing piece of equipment. Or, as my wife said, "There's no way you're sending that back!" The Halo A21 has about twice the electronic components for a signal to migrate thru before the signal finds your speakers AND it costs twice what the SA250 does. I'll be sticking with my SA250. Superb bass and continues right up the ladder. |
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Post by wilburthegoose on Nov 2, 2015 20:14:27 GMT -5
DavidR - I'm glad you got one that worked. My SA-250 went into protection mode every time the volume on the XMC-1 got over -25. Emotiva confirmed that it was defective, but it took them 3-4 months to reply to me.
But at the low volumes I was able to hear, it certainly did sound great.
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Post by DavidR on Nov 2, 2015 20:38:05 GMT -5
DavidR - I'm glad you got one that worked. My SA-250 went into protection mode every time the volume on the XMC-1 got over -25. Emotiva confirmed that it was defective, but it took them 3-4 months to reply to me. But at the low volumes I was able to hear, it certainly did sound great. I remember your sad tale. It's too bad they took so long instead of just shipping a new unit out pronto. I'm sure the Halo is superb sounding as most Parasound gear is. I had issues with the XSP-1 G2 that was sent at the same time. UPS destroyed it upon return from the repair dept. I got a new/replacement and the XSP-1 just makes the SA250 sound so much better. I'm tempted to put my XPA-2 G2 on the XSP-1 and compare the 2 thru my AR90's. But that's a lot of grunt work just for curiosity. |
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Post by novisnick on Nov 2, 2015 20:44:07 GMT -5
DavidR - I'm glad you got one that worked. My SA-250 went into protection mode every time the volume on the XMC-1 got over -25. Emotiva confirmed that it was defective, but it took them 3-4 months to reply to me. But at the low volumes I was able to hear, it certainly did sound great. I remember your sad tale. It's too bad they took so long instead of just shipping a new unit out pronto. I'm sure the Halo is superb sounding as most Parasound gear is. I had issues with the XSP-1 G2 that was sent at the same time. UPS destroyed it upon return from the repair dept. I got a new/replacement and the XSP-1 just makes the SA250 sound so much better. I'm tempted to put my XPA-2 G2 on the XSP-1 and compare the 2 thru my AR90's. But that's a lot of grunt work just for curiosity. Dave, I think you would only have to move it once. After you hear what the XSP-1 does for the music, your done!  |
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Post by deltadube on Nov 2, 2015 21:40:04 GMT -5
I have a big birthday coming up this month (50) and am considering a few options my wife want to get for my birthday present. Current set-up is an XPA-3 powering fronts and center along with an Onkyo TX-NR1007 for the rears. System is used for home theater (110" Carada screen wth BenQ W6000 projector) and also some SACD/5.1 music listening (Serious music listening). My speakers are KEF 105.3 Reference for the fornt and rears and KEF XQ2C center channel, I have to say i am extremely thrilled with the system as is, but always on a mission to find that extra little bit / nuance. With the Emotiva winter sale I am looking at 2 options: Option 1 - Getting an XPR-2 amp ($1500 unit cost plus cost for running a 20amp line) to power the fronts and use the XPA-3 for the center and rears. Advantage is moving up to the XPR line. Option 2 - Getting two XPA-1 amps ($1750) to power the fronts and use the XPA-3 for the center and rears. Advantage is moving to mono blocks. Need to decide in the next few days....... join the mono block society see novisnick for details... I have the xpa 1 - xpa 3 the xpa 1 sounds better for 2 channel.. and if you add the xsp 1 with the ht bypass you will jump another level too... cheers.. |
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Post by deltadube on Nov 2, 2015 22:19:42 GMT -5
ps to me its just cooler to have mono blocks lol
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Post by DavidR on Nov 2, 2015 22:51:39 GMT -5
I remember your sad tale. It's too bad they took so long instead of just shipping a new unit out pronto. I'm sure the Halo is superb sounding as most Parasound gear is. I had issues with the XSP-1 G2 that was sent at the same time. UPS destroyed it upon return from the repair dept. I got a new/replacement and the XSP-1 just makes the SA250 sound so much better. I'm tempted to put my XPA-2 G2 on the XSP-1 and compare the 2 thru my AR90's. But that's a lot of grunt work just for curiosity. Dave, I think you would only have to move it once. After you hear what the XSP-1 does for the music, your done! So you think I'll like the XPA-2 G2 better than the SA250? I've only listened to the XPA-2 with my Rotel pre and the SA250 with the Rotel and XSP-1. My impressions were the SA250 had much better bass and more refined mids and highs - perhaps a little less edge to the sound. I think I'd have to move it twice: once to put the 73lb. beast in the rack and again to remove it. I had really wanted to put the XPA-2 on the Family Room system in place of my modded Carver gear; but I'm very nervous about the weight on top of the TV/Audio cabinet. The amp weighs more than the Carver amp, pre and tuner. It would just fit, too. |
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Post by novisnick on Nov 2, 2015 23:02:35 GMT -5
Dave, I think you would only have to move it once. After you hear what the XSP-1 does for the music, your done! So you think I'll like the XPA-2 G2 better than the SA250? I've only listened to the XPA-2 with my Rotel pre and the SA250 with the Rotel and XSP-1. My impressions were the SA250 had much better bass and more refined mids and highs - perhaps a little less edge to the sound. I think I'd have to move it twice: once to put the 73lb. beast in the rack and again to remove it. I had really wanted to put the XPA-2 on the Family Room system in place of my modded Carver gear; but I'm very nervous about the weight on top of the TV/Audio cabinet. The amp weighs more than the Carver amp, pre and tuner. It would just fit, too. I just think it would sound better, besides,,,,,its not like your going to buy it and send it back! Another friend on this forum was just going to flip some gear he purchased without even listening to it!! WHAT?  I begged and pleaded with him to give it a fair listen,,,,,,its in the house and youll always say,,,, " I Wonder " He finally gave it a try!!! The gear isnt leaving the house! I recieved a great big thank you and hes enjoying them to this day!! Whats it going to cost?? Time? God willing we have some left, tomorrow is never promised ya know! If im wrong, call me a dummy! If im right, drink to my health. |
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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 3, 2015 7:15:56 GMT -5
i have never seen a KEF 104.3, did you mean 103.4? Those are definitely a few notches below the bigger 104.2 and 105.3 of that era (Still decent, but not top of the line), These:  |
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