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Post by adamhart on Aug 6, 2016 16:15:43 GMT -5
Teaman, I bought them new from Emotiva I'd say roughly 18 months ago give or take a month or two
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Post by yeeeha17 on Aug 6, 2016 16:49:20 GMT -5
I would try using those amps with another speakers, cables, and inter connects to see if they still blow fuses. If so you might just want to send it in for service than. Sometimes it's stuff like bad cables that might be blowing those fuses. Good luck
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Post by novisnick on Aug 6, 2016 17:18:31 GMT -5
I've got it ALL figured out my friends!! I'll send shipping lables for both amps and give them a thorough going ober for about a year or so! I would never sleep untill I got to the root of the problem,,,,,,,promise!! ,,,,,,,,    |
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Post by teaman on Aug 6, 2016 17:34:44 GMT -5
Teaman, I bought them new from Emotiva I'd say roughly 18 months ago give or take a month or two I hate to say this but I would definitely send them back again and tell them if they cannot fix them properly you would like a credit or another pair of amps. Seems your pair is cursed if you have had this many problems. Good luck Tim |
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Post by robcoff on Aug 19, 2016 11:26:15 GMT -5
Here is a video of what one of mine has been doing. Its now on its way to the repair depot again. Thank you Damon. www.youtube.com/watch?v=IguOYwY33GkHopefully it can be rectified. |
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Post by adaboy on Aug 19, 2016 11:40:40 GMT -5
Wow! thanks for posting that. I'm sure you'll get the expert help needed from the folks at Emotiva.
I might add, sorry that you're having this issue.
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Post by ehmokey on Aug 27, 2016 6:59:16 GMT -5
The amps are out and have adequate air so it shouldn't be heat I have an almost identical set up with the XPA-1Ls in the open. They do get hot, but never trigger any protection circuitry. I purchased mine almost 11 months ago and never had any issues. When my AVR (Yamaha HTR 6090) was in an enclosed cabinet, I purchased an A/V fan that sat on top of the unit. It worked wonders and was very quiet. I no longer use the fan, and the Yamaha is currently being used as my pre-amp. |
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Post by ehmokey on Aug 27, 2016 7:22:33 GMT -5
adaboy, I don't think anybody was saying that having a 20A line would make these amps run cooler. I was curious if anybody was running multiple xpa-1l amps on standard outlets and circuits that come with a standard house or if they had to install a dedicated 20A circuit. I thought I might be having power issues bc i have the two rather large subs and was running 2 XPA-1L's, XPA-3, pre/pro, apple tv, blu-ray player etc. and i keep blowing fuses in the XPA-1L's. Somebody commented that it might be heat and thats when I uploaded the pic showing my xpa-1l's are on the top shelve and not inside a cabinet and said it def isn't heat for my situation. So unless I missed something I don't think anybody is saying that installing a 20A circuit will prevent overheating My XPA-1Ls (and all other equipment for that matter) are plugged to a Monster MP HTS 1600 power conditioner, which in turn is plugged to a regular 15 amp outlet. Have not had any issues thus far. During my pre-purchase research I asked the question if I needed individual 20 amp circuits and was told no. |
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Post by adaboy on Aug 27, 2016 9:59:39 GMT -5
adaboy, I don't think anybody was saying that having a 20A line would make these amps run cooler. I was curious if anybody was running multiple xpa-1l amps on standard outlets and circuits that come with a standard house or if they had to install a dedicated 20A circuit. I thought I might be having power issues bc i have the two rather large subs and was running 2 XPA-1L's, XPA-3, pre/pro, apple tv, blu-ray player etc. and i keep blowing fuses in the XPA-1L's. Somebody commented that it might be heat and thats when I uploaded the pic showing my xpa-1l's are on the top shelve and not inside a cabinet and said it def isn't heat for my situation. So unless I missed something I don't think anybody is saying that installing a 20A circuit will prevent overheating Sorry I completely missed this! I was under the impression that the op wanted to know if 20a would be better for the amp as currently in 15a its overheating. So I wanted to know if something happens different in the amp at 20a.I don't think it does but I didn't want to bury my head in the sand and not be open to unknown possibilities. |
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Post by robcoff on Nov 2, 2016 16:35:25 GMT -5
Here is a video of what one of mine has been doing. Its now on its way to the repair depot again. Thank you Damon. www.youtube.com/watch?v=IguOYwY33GkHopefully it can be rectified. Finally rec'd my repaired XPA 1L back from Canadian repair depot in Calgary. Needed a new amp module that got hung up at the border so it took forever. Seems to work fine except it went into protect mode once last night. I turned it off and back on again and it seems ok. Only time will tell I guess. Personally I think I have a lemon since I have never had any problems with its brother that is the next serial number. Special thanks to Tom, Damon and Janna at Emotiva. |
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Post by Gary Cook on Nov 2, 2016 17:31:15 GMT -5
There is definitely something going on there with either cables or speakers. I helped out a guy locally who had 3 XPA-1L's display issues. One was replaced FOC by Emotiva, tested before they sent it, and it displayed he same issues. It's a long story but eventually I worked through with him swapping speakers (expensive speakers)and cables (expensive cables) until we isolated the problem. The speakers cables, they tested fine on the multimeter but once plugged into the rear of the XPA-1L's the weight of the cables themselves, dragging on the plugs, opened up the circuit intermittently. There weren't really any symptoms, no noise, no distortion, no particular time length, no common denominator etc an XPA-1L would simply trip at random. Then it would work perfectly OK for hours, even days, then the other one would trip. Because of the randomness together with swapping between amps he had rejected speakers and speaker cables as the issue and justifiably blamed the amps. It took some convincing to get him to even try a pair of cheap and nasty speakers. Once we ruled that out it was cables and another pile of convincing. He was so convinced it was the amps that he plugged the cables into an AVR that he placed temporarily on the floor (note the difference) and "proved" that it wasn't the cables. I finally convinced him to try a pair of my old cables, no plugs, just 14 gauge multi strand copper unshielded twin with soldered tips to prevent fraying. A far as I know he is still using those cables that cost about 1/10th what he paid for the expensive ones that eventually found their way to the garbage bin.
He was convinced it was the amps, that he had miraculously, somehow, in the whole world been sent 4 duds in a row. My best suggestion is to not rule anything out, just because they are expensive cables and/or speakers doesn't mean that they aren't the problem. Just because there's no problem with them when used with other gear, doesn't mean that they aren't the problem. Methodically working our way through the possibilities can be time consuming but there really isn't any other way.
Cheers
Gary
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Post by robcoff on Nov 2, 2016 21:14:25 GMT -5
No - not cables/speakers. Video shows fuses snapping with no input/output cables. I've used 8 or nine sets/manufacturers of high end xlr and unbalanced as well as speaker cables. Speakers vary from Khorns, Belles, La Scala's, JBL 250 ti, L100, Martin Logans - depending on how I feel.
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Post by Gary Cook on Nov 3, 2016 3:36:09 GMT -5
What's the supply voltage loook like?
Cheers
Gary
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Post by robcoff on Nov 13, 2016 17:17:51 GMT -5
Here is a video of what one of mine has been doing. Its now on its way to the repair depot again. Thank you Damon. www.youtube.com/watch?v=IguOYwY33GkHopefully it can be rectified. Finally rec'd my repaired XPA 1L back from Canadian repair depot in Calgary. Needed a new amp module that got hung up at the border so it took forever. Seems to work fine except it went into protect mode once last night. I turned it off and back on again and it seems ok. Only time will tell I guess. Personally I think I have a lemon since I have never had any problems with its brother that is the next serial number. Special thanks to Tom, Damon and Janna at Emotiva. Well now its doing a similar thing except its snapping fuses when you turn the back power switch on. I emailed this to emo so hopefully they can repair it again. Shipping is getting costly. |
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Post by joto on Nov 19, 2016 15:54:15 GMT -5
I also have a 1L that's blowing both fuses with or without anything hooked up to it. Searching for fix ideas. It happens once the power is switched on.
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Post by geebo on Nov 19, 2016 15:58:12 GMT -5
I also have a 1L that's blowing both fuses with or without anything hooked up to it. Searching for fix ideas. It happens once the power is switched on. Sounds like a call to Emotiva is necessary. |
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Post by robcoff on Nov 21, 2016 12:17:39 GMT -5
I also have a 1L that's blowing both fuses with or without anything hooked up to it. Searching for fix ideas. It happens once the power is switched on. My two videos above show fuses snapping when the main switch is turned on and when the main switch is turned on then the front button is pushed. Real weird. I contacted emo by email but no response as of yet. A phone call is in order. At least I'm not alone with this problem but I'm still sorry to hear you are experiencing the same. |
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Post by boum on Jan 12, 2017 23:07:37 GMT -5
What was the outcome of this? I am in a very similar situation, where one of my XPA-1L failed; I sent it back to the Canada repair facility. The amp module was replaced, and the amp sent back. I got to use it for 2 days, and then the fuses blew. Now the amp does the same as on your last video - connect only the power cord, and the fuses blow shortly after pressing the front button.
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