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Post by bigbucz on Feb 4, 2016 8:40:12 GMT -5
Actually I havent given it much thought. Honestly i'm just learning about all the different amp types now. I'm affaid my brain won't be able to take any more! lol A tube pre-amp is different than a tube amplifier where you may have to adjust the bias daily. Basically a tube -pre is plug and play. The tubes have a good lifespan and to replace the tubes is no more difficult that screwing in a light bulb. No pressure here but IN THE LONG RUN I think it is worth it to review. I do understand if you feel overwhelmed b/c of the large amount of choices at your disposal but it is in your interest to take your time and make a decision that YOU are happy with and live with for some time. Enjoy the journey! your absolutely right, in the past i've settled for cheap mediocre equipment. Not this time i'll take my time piecing together all my components
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Post by bluemeanies on Feb 4, 2016 8:54:26 GMT -5
You have a good start. If you are happy with your B&W's that's the first step! Myself I am a B&W's person. People love them or hate them. Oppo is a fine piece as is the UPA200.
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Post by bigbucz on Feb 4, 2016 9:20:12 GMT -5
Hey Sid My main concerns is getting the quality audio. My Budget is $1000-$1500. xsp 1 is awesome for 2 channel with home theater bypass.. for avr.. u could do ok with 1500 few more just get the xmc 1 my xsp 1 love it.. If i'm understanding this right the xmc 1 would replace the need for the XSP 1
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Post by mshump on Feb 4, 2016 9:37:56 GMT -5
xsp 1 is awesome for 2 channel with home theater bypass.. for avr.. u could do ok with 1500 few more just get the xmc 1 my xsp 1 love it.. If i'm understanding this right the xmc 1 would replace the need for the XSP 1 The XMC-1 is a pre-amp/processor, for up to 7.2 Channels. In 2 channel (stereo mode), it sounds as good as the XSP-1. With the XMC-1 you could just buy more amps later for your HT. Either choice the XSP-1 and using the HT bypass option for adding a receiver later or using the XMC-1 and just adding some amps later are good options. It really is what path you wish to follow and what your future upgrades will be. I have the XSP-1 in my 2 channel system and am very happy and the same with my XMC-1 in the HT (I also use it for 2 channel) in the LR. The sound quality of both are excellent and about the same.
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Post by garbulky on Feb 4, 2016 10:05:10 GMT -5
If that's the case WAIT for the soon to be released preamp. It will trounce any AV reciever. Then spend the rest on a UPA-500 for surround sound. I hesitate to ask anyone to wait for a not released Emotiva product. They could be waiting years. When is Emotiva glass coming out again? Yeah....
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Post by KeithL on Feb 4, 2016 10:40:43 GMT -5
Right now you have a nice source component (the Oppo), which can also serve as a preamp, and a decent amp, and a nice pair of speakers. I think, before you go any further, you should decide on "your strategy". In your first post you talk about "your next step". My reply to that is "Next step towards what?" What I mean by that is that you need to decide if you've already got an "end game" here, or if you tend to look at things more like "just keep moving forward". Let me explain what I mean..... If you're thinking about what single component you can add next to get you the biggest benefit right now, then a preamp (the XSP-1) seems like an excellent choice. (But all it's going to add to what you have now is more analog inputs, a nicer volume control, and more other controls - like tone controls, and a phono preamp.) If, instead, you go for an XMC-1, it will give you most of the benefits of the XSP-1 today (except that you'll need an outboard phono preamp like our XPS-1). But you'll also be prepared for surround sound, so you won't need to shop for a pre/pro or AVR later, and then figure out how it all goes together. Considering the path you seem to have chosen - here's what I'd say.... (and it sort of depends on your budget and your philosophy). A preamp, like the XSP-1, will give you a solid improvement, but will only get you partway down the road, and it might not be the best fit with your final destination. (If you buy an XSP-1 today, then buy an XMC-1 next year, you might decide that you really didn't need the XSP-1.) A high-end pre/pro, like the XMC-1, will give you everything you need today, and pretty well everything you could ever really want for the next few years. It will also expose you to options and features that, while you're not familiar with them now, you may find that you really like once you try them (like room correction). (But the down-side of that is that there's more to learn; and it'll cost more now.) And the new Emersa line offers a nice mix of features and price..... As I said, though, a lot of this depends on how you feel about the hobby and about your budget. Do you consider it an ongoing adventure, where you might change your mind later, or change directions? Or do you want to skip the adventure, assemble a really great system as soon as possible, then stop shopping and sit down and listen to it? (for that I'd go with the XMC-1) I would also give a word of advice.... about both tube equipment and vinyl records...... (Both of those are technologies that were considered obsolete, but have since experienced a revival of sorts). That advice is "sample before you jump in". Tubes have a distinctive sound (which is not specifically accurate); some people like them, some don't. (Note that tube preamps can be pretty close to neutral; tube power amps tend to sound VERY distinctly different.) LISTEN to some tube equipment for yourself before you even consider buying any. You'll probably either love it or hate it - to take advantage of the pun; few people are neutral about whether they like tubes or not Likewise for vinyl; vinyl albums have a somewhat distinctive sound; which some people like and some don't. In addition, some people like the ritual of cleaning albums, setting up turntables, and carefully putting down the tonearm; others just find it to be an annoying nuisance. In short, in both cases, don't jump in with both feet because you read somewhere that they're great, and don't do it because some audiophile buddy says so. Check it out for yourself, go listen to a tube amp, or play a few records on that buddy's turntable, and see if "the magic" works for you. If a $500 turntable and cartridge sound great to you, then you might like a $2500 one even better; but, if you don't think the $500 one sounds especially good at all, then you probably just don't like vinyl. Likewise, if you like the sound of a $500 tube amp, then you might really like a $5000 one; but, if you can't hear what all the fuss is about with the $500 one, then you should probably save your money.
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Post by KeithL on Feb 4, 2016 13:01:41 GMT -5
Correct, the XMC-1 is an excellent surround sound pre/pro but, unlike many other pre/pros and AVRs, it's also an excellent preamp - in both surround sound AND stereo. xsp 1 is awesome for 2 channel with home theater bypass.. for avr.. u could do ok with 1500 few more just get the xmc 1 my xsp 1 love it.. If i'm understanding this right the xmc 1 would replace the need for the XSP 1
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Post by bigbucz on Feb 4, 2016 17:16:12 GMT -5
Right now you have a nice source component (the Oppo), which can also serve as a preamp, and a decent amp, and a nice pair of speakers. I think, before you go any further, you should decide on "your strategy". In your first post you talk about "your next step". My reply to that is "Next step towards what?" What I mean by that is that you need to decide if you've already got an "end game" here, or if you tend to look at things more like "just keep moving forward". Let me explain what I mean..... If you're thinking about what single component you can add next to get you the biggest benefit right now, then a preamp (the XSP-1) seems like an excellent choice. (But all it's going to add to what you have now is more analog inputs, a nicer volume control, and more other controls - like tone controls, and a phono preamp.) If, instead, you go for an XMC-1, it will give you most of the benefits of the XSP-1 today (except that you'll need an outboard phono preamp like our XPS-1). But you'll also be prepared for surround sound, so you won't need to shop for a pre/pro or AVR later, and then figure out how it all goes together. Considering the path you seem to have chosen - here's what I'd say.... (and it sort of depends on your budget and your philosophy). A preamp, like the XSP-1, will give you a solid improvement, but will only get you partway down the road, and it might not be the best fit with your final destination. (If you buy an XSP-1 today, then buy an XMC-1 next year, you might decide that you really didn't need the XSP-1.) A high-end pre/pro, like the XMC-1, will give you everything you need today, and pretty well everything you could ever really want for the next few years. It will also expose you to options and features that, while you're not familiar with them now, you may find that you really like once you try them (like room correction). (But the down-side of that is that there's more to learn; and it'll cost more now.) And the new Emersa line offers a nice mix of features and price..... As I said, though, a lot of this depends on how you feel about the hobby and about your budget. Do you consider it an ongoing adventure, where you might change your mind later, or change directions? Or do you want to skip the adventure, assemble a really great system as soon as possible, then stop shopping and sit down and listen to it? (for that I'd go with the XMC-1) I would also give a word of advice.... about both tube equipment and vinyl records...... (Both of those are technologies that were considered obsolete, but have since experienced a revival of sorts). That advice is "sample before you jump in". Tubes have a distinctive sound (which is not specifically accurate); some people like them, some don't. (Note that tube preamps can be pretty close to neutral; tube power amps tend to sound VERY distinctly different.) LISTEN to some tube equipment for yourself before you even consider buying any. You'll probably either love it or hate it - to take advantage of the pun; few people are neutral about whether they like tubes or not Likewise for vinyl; vinyl albums have a somewhat distinctive sound; which some people like and some don't. In addition, some people like the ritual of cleaning albums, setting up turntables, and carefully putting down the tonearm; others just find it to be an annoying nuisance. In short, in both cases, don't jump in with both feet because you read somewhere that they're great, and don't do it because some audiophile buddy says so. Check it out for yourself, go listen to a tube amp, or play a few records on that buddy's turntable, and see if "the magic" works for you. If a $500 turntable and cartridge sound great to you, then you might like a $2500 one even better; but, if you don't think the $500 one sounds especially good at all, then you probably just don't like vinyl. Likewise, if you like the sound of a $500 tube amp, then you might really like a $5000 one; but, if you can't hear what all the fuss is about with the $500 one, then you should probably save your money. This is exactly the type of advice that I needed, gave it some thought and basically tube amps are out, I never really gave it much thought so won't change course now. At this point the XMC seems to be the way forward it packs all the features of the XSP but it's the processor is a little confusing to me. How does it compare to a av receiver considering the extra $1500......Does allow for DTS X, TrueHd,Atmos etc etc
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Post by bigbucz on Feb 4, 2016 19:13:07 GMT -5
Right now you have a nice source component (the Oppo), which can also serve as a preamp, and a decent amp, and a nice pair of speakers. I think, before you go any further, you should decide on "your strategy". In your first post you talk about "your next step". My reply to that is "Next step towards what?" What I mean by that is that you need to decide if you've already got an "end game" here, or if you tend to look at things more like "just keep moving forward". Let me explain what I mean..... If you're thinking about what single component you can add next to get you the biggest benefit right now, then a preamp (the XSP-1) seems like an excellent choice. (But all it's going to add to what you have now is more analog inputs, a nicer volume control, and more other controls - like tone controls, and a phono preamp.) If, instead, you go for an XMC-1, it will give you most of the benefits of the XSP-1 today (except that you'll need an outboard phono preamp like our XPS-1). But you'll also be prepared for surround sound, so you won't need to shop for a pre/pro or AVR later, and then figure out how it all goes together. Considering the path you seem to have chosen - here's what I'd say.... (and it sort of depends on your budget and your philosophy). A preamp, like the XSP-1, will give you a solid improvement, but will only get you partway down the road, and it might not be the best fit with your final destination. (If you buy an XSP-1 today, then buy an XMC-1 next year, you might decide that you really didn't need the XSP-1.) A high-end pre/pro, like the XMC-1, will give you everything you need today, and pretty well everything you could ever really want for the next few years. It will also expose you to options and features that, while you're not familiar with them now, you may find that you really like once you try them (like room correction). (But the down-side of that is that there's more to learn; and it'll cost more now.) And the new Emersa line offers a nice mix of features and price..... As I said, though, a lot of this depends on how you feel about the hobby and about your budget. Do you consider it an ongoing adventure, where you might change your mind later, or change directions? Or do you want to skip the adventure, assemble a really great system as soon as possible, then stop shopping and sit down and listen to it? (for that I'd go with the XMC-1) I would also give a word of advice.... about both tube equipment and vinyl records...... (Both of those are technologies that were considered obsolete, but have since experienced a revival of sorts). That advice is "sample before you jump in". Tubes have a distinctive sound (which is not specifically accurate); some people like them, some don't. (Note that tube preamps can be pretty close to neutral; tube power amps tend to sound VERY distinctly different.) LISTEN to some tube equipment for yourself before you even consider buying any. You'll probably either love it or hate it - to take advantage of the pun; few people are neutral about whether they like tubes or not Likewise for vinyl; vinyl albums have a somewhat distinctive sound; which some people like and some don't. In addition, some people like the ritual of cleaning albums, setting up turntables, and carefully putting down the tonearm; others just find it to be an annoying nuisance. In short, in both cases, don't jump in with both feet because you read somewhere that they're great, and don't do it because some audiophile buddy says so. Check it out for yourself, go listen to a tube amp, or play a few records on that buddy's turntable, and see if "the magic" works for you. If a $500 turntable and cartridge sound great to you, then you might like a $2500 one even better; but, if you don't think the $500 one sounds especially good at all, then you probably just don't like vinyl. Likewise, if you like the sound of a $500 tube amp, then you might really like a $5000 one; but, if you can't hear what all the fuss is about with the $500 one, then you should probably save your money. This is exactly the type of advice that I needed, gave it some thought and basically tube amps are out, I never really gave it much thought so won't change course now. At this point the XMC seems to be the way forward it packs all the features of the XSP but it's the processor is a little confusing to me. How does it compare to a av receiver considering the extra $1500......Does allow for DTS X, TrueHd,Atmos etc etc actually i get it as far as audio quality there's no comparison, features on the other hand apples to apples seem like the yammys, martanz types beat it out. Would you all agree?
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Post by brutiarti on Feb 4, 2016 19:28:48 GMT -5
Did you consider getting the xsp-1 and add an avr later when you have all the sorround system in place? Also, are you going hi end with the center and surrounds?
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Post by yves on Feb 4, 2016 20:23:04 GMT -5
This is exactly the type of advice that I needed, gave it some thought and basically tube amps are out, I never really gave it much thought so won't change course now. At this point the XMC seems to be the way forward it packs all the features of the XSP but it's the processor is a little confusing to me. How does it compare to a av receiver considering the extra $1500......Does allow for DTS X, TrueHd,Atmos etc etc actually i get as far as audio quality there's no comparison but feature comparison apples to apples seem like the yammys, martanz types beat it out. Would you all agree? It all mostly depends on what features you think are useful / could be useful to you at some possible point in time. Also, (and I am sure others will disagree here) I do not buy into the idea that the price of an audio product is always very indicative of whether I will like the final sound. I am not a particular fan of bad tube sound, but I do love great tube sound. (The same applies to playback of vinyl).
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Post by bigbucz on Feb 4, 2016 21:56:55 GMT -5
Did you consider getting the xsp-1 and add an avr later when you have all the sorround system in place? Also, are you going hi end with the center and surrounds? actually sensei the XSP really is my first choice.(Does it have the same DAC as the XMC?) I really want DTS X and the option for ATMOS and the not knowing if or when the XMC would release a module would drive me crazy. For centre i'll go with the B&W HTM62 s2......For surround well thats a different story their bookshelves are imo to good for rears plus their bigs , really BIG. I'm starting to entertain the possibility of going with a different brand! Maybe the Elac introduced at CES suppose to be really good quality at a great price!
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Post by bigbucz on Feb 4, 2016 22:08:04 GMT -5
actually i get as far as audio quality there's no comparison but feature comparison apples to apples seem like the yammys, martanz types beat it out. Would you all agree? It all mostly depends on what features you think are useful / could be useful to you at some possible point in time. Also, (and I am sure others will disagree here) I do not buy into the idea that the price of an audio product is always very indicative of whether I will like the final sound. I am not a particular fan of bad tube sound, but I do love great tube sound. (The same applies to playback of vinyl). I hear you, I think price should give an indication of quality components, but audio quality is all subjective at the end of the day.......
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Post by brutiarti on Feb 4, 2016 22:10:45 GMT -5
Did you consider getting the xsp-1 and add an avr later when you have all the sorround system in place? Also, are you going hi end with the center and surrounds? actually sensei the XSP really is my first choice.(Does it have the same DAC as the XMC?) I really want DTS X and the option for ATMOS and the not knowing if or when the XMC would release a module would drive me crazy. For centre i'll go with the B&W HTM62 s2......For surround well thats a different story their bookshelves are imo to good for rears plus their bigs , really BIG. I'm starting to entertain the possibility of going with a different brand! Maybe the Elac introduced at CES suppose to be really good quality at a great price! The xsp-1 doesn't have a dac actually. You will be using the oppo's dac but i'm not sure of you have the 105 that does everything better in the 2ch side IMO. I see that you plan on having a nice surround system as well so the xmc-1 actually will be a better idea to have. BUT dts-x and atmos will be an issue for you and in that case it gets a little hard to make a decision. I had the xmc-1 for a couple of weeks and the sound was similar to the xsp-1, at least to my ears in a 2 ch system using analogs and without Dirac so i cannot comment on using the xmc-1's dac or dirac. Probably others can comment on comparing the xmc-1 with a different brand pre/pro that has dts-x/atmos. Hope you get what you want and enjoy!
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Post by pedrocols on Feb 4, 2016 22:12:37 GMT -5
Did you consider getting the xsp-1 and add an avr later when you have all the sorround system in place? Also, are you going hi end with the center and surrounds? actually sensei the XSP really is my first choice.(Does it have the same DAC as the XMC?) I really want DTS X and the option for ATMOS and the not knowing if or when the XMC would release a module would drive me crazy. For centre i'll go with the B&W HTM62 s2......For surround well thats a different story their bookshelves are imo to good for rears plus their bigs , really BIG. I'm starting to entertain the possibility of going with a different brand! Maybe the Elac introduced at CES suppose to be really good quality at a great price! The XSP-1 does not have a built in DAC. It does however has a phono preamp.
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Post by deltadube on Feb 4, 2016 23:34:32 GMT -5
xsp 1 is awesome for 2 channel with home theater bypass.. for avr.. u could do ok with 1500 few more just get the xmc 1 my xsp 1 love it.. If i'm understanding this right the xmc 1 would replace the need for the XSP 1 not exactly .. if you are getting the xsp 1 and an avr 900 plus 600 is your 1500.. I'm using a denon 3313 for movies and tv I'm very happy.. when I added the xsp 1 for 2 channel wow what a jump in sq... so just saying for 500 more plus amps the xmc1 .. with emotiva your getting great sound for a great price I think.. cheers..
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Post by KeithL on Feb 5, 2016 11:16:23 GMT -5
I would say that's a fair statement - although it really depends on what features you care about, and which ones you actually plan to use. Our design of the XMC-1 emphasizes sound quality WAY above features. (I can't think of any other pre/pros or AVRs out there that can really compete with a high-end stand-alone stereo preamp in terms of sound quality.) Most people I've spoken to seem to agree that the XMC-1 sounds better than any of the other options they've heard (or owned)..... And it does come with Dirac Live room correction - which a lot of people REALLY like... I'll also mention that, compared to the XSP-1, the XMC-1 has LOTS more control options..... Along with Dirac Live, it has two manual presets, each with 11 bands of manual parametric EQ per channel, and full tone controls, and you can use it with REW.... And it has sophisticated bass management, including its own built-in test tone and pink noise generators... And a massively powerful menu system - which also isn't too painful to use... However, it doesn't have built-in clients for streaming (although you can connect an external streamer like a Roku if you want to do that). And, if you decide to try vinyl, you will have to add a separate phono preamp - like our excellent XPS-1 (for $149). We will be adding HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 support in a few months - via an upgrade board (so that's covered). The XMC-1 supports up to 7.2 channels, and supports all the current formats up to and including that. The XMC-1 supports Dolby TrueHD, and DTS Master Audio, and USB audio up to 24/192k, etc.... It's almost certainly never going to be upgraded to Atmos with lots of channels (although we're considering an upgrade to Atmos 5.1.2 or 5.2.2). (Atmos is really only useful if you plan to add at least some height channels; it offers no significant benefits in terms of playback in 5.1 or 7.1 .) We're still considering DTS-X at this point, but we're waiting to see how well it catches on, and whether adding it would be practical (probably not). This is exactly the type of advice that I needed, gave it some thought and basically tube amps are out, I never really gave it much thought so won't change course now. At this point the XMC seems to be the way forward it packs all the features of the XSP but it's the processor is a little confusing to me. How does it compare to a av receiver considering the extra $1500......Does allow for DTS X, TrueHd,Atmos etc etc actually i get it as far as audio quality there's no comparison, features on the other hand apples to apples seem like the yammys, martanz types beat it out. Would you all agree?
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Post by sonicseeker on Feb 5, 2016 11:28:58 GMT -5
I would say that's a fair statement - although it really depends on what features you care about, and which ones you actually plan to use. Our design of the XMC-1 emphasizes sound quality WAY above features. (I can't think of any other pre/pros or AVRs out there that can really compete with a high-end stand-alone stereo preamp in terms of sound quality.) Most people I've spoken to seem to agree that the XMC-1 sounds better than any of the other options they've heard (or owned)..... And it does come with Dirac Live room correction - which a lot of people REALLY like... I'll also mention that, compared to the XSP-1, the XMC-1 has LOTS more control options..... Along with Dirac Live, it has two manual presets, each with 11 bands of manual parametric EQ per channel, and full tone controls, and you can use it with REW.... And it has sophisticated bass management, including its own built-in test tone and pink noise generators... And a massively powerful menu system - which also isn't too painful to use... However, it doesn't have built-in clients for streaming (although you can connect an external streamer like a Roku if you want to do that). And, if you decide to try vinyl, you will have to add a separate phono preamp - like our excellent XPS-1 (for $149). We will be adding HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 support in a few months - via an upgrade board (so that's covered). The XMC-1 supports up to 7.2 channels, and supports all the current formats up to and including that. The XMC-1 supports Dolby TrueHD, and DTS Master Audio, and USB audio up to 24/192k, etc.... It's almost certainly never going to be upgraded to Atmos with lots of channels (although we're considering an upgrade to Atmos 5.1.2 or 5.2.2). (Atmos is really only useful if you plan to add at least some height channels; it offers no significant benefits in terms of playback in 5.1 or 7.1 .) We're still considering DTS-X at this point, but we're waiting to see how well it catches on, and whether adding it would be practical (probably not). actually i get it as far as audio quality there's no comparison, features on the other hand apples to apples seem like the yammys, martanz types beat it out. Would you all agree? If you want to start with a great sounding piece for audio and home theater that does everything exceptionally well, and are not planning atmos speakers, than the XMC-1 would be a fantastic first choice to start building your system. Although Atmos is new and interesting, you need to decide if it is something you would ever be able to or want to do.
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Post by bigbucz on Feb 5, 2016 16:39:28 GMT -5
I would say that's a fair statement - although it really depends on what features you care about, and which ones you actually plan to use. Our design of the XMC-1 emphasizes sound quality WAY above features. (I can't think of any other pre/pros or AVRs out there that can really compete with a high-end stand-alone stereo preamp in terms of sound quality.) Most people I've spoken to seem to agree that the XMC-1 sounds better than any of the other options they've heard (or owned)..... And it does come with Dirac Live room correction - which a lot of people REALLY like... I'll also mention that, compared to the XSP-1, the XMC-1 has LOTS more control options..... Along with Dirac Live, it has two manual presets, each with 11 bands of manual parametric EQ per channel, and full tone controls, and you can use it with REW.... And it has sophisticated bass management, including its own built-in test tone and pink noise generators... And a massively powerful menu system - which also isn't too painful to use... However, it doesn't have built-in clients for streaming (although you can connect an external streamer like a Roku if you want to do that). And, if you decide to try vinyl, you will have to add a separate phono preamp - like our excellent XPS-1 (for $149). We will be adding HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 support in a few months - via an upgrade board (so that's covered). The XMC-1 supports up to 7.2 channels, and supports all the current formats up to and including that. The XMC-1 supports Dolby TrueHD, and DTS Master Audio, and USB audio up to 24/192k, etc.... It's almost certainly never going to be upgraded to Atmos with lots of channels (although we're considering an upgrade to Atmos 5.1.2 or 5.2.2). (Atmos is really only useful if you plan to add at least some height channels; it offers no significant benefits in terms of playback in 5.1 or 7.1 .) We're still considering DTS-X at this point, but we're waiting to see how well it catches on, and whether adding it would be practical (probably not). actually i get it as far as audio quality there's no comparison, features on the other hand apples to apples seem like the yammys, martanz types beat it out. Would you all agree? got it. So when you offer a upgrade component example the HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 do you build all new units with the upgraded components or is it still an upgrade ?
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Post by sonicseeker on Feb 5, 2016 16:50:46 GMT -5
Quote {got it. So when you offer a upgrade component example the HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 do you build all new units with the upgraded components or is it still an upgrade ?} When it comes out it will be in the new units. The upgrade is a service for us who already have the current XMC-1
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