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Post by dust770 on Mar 17, 2016 0:33:34 GMT -5
Well guys I've been searching the forums for sometime now trying to find some advice on how to address low bass output when Dirac is engaged. I really like what Dirac does for the rest of my theater speakers but wish I could bypass it for the subwoofer section, is there a way to do this? Is there a way to run Dirac without it processing for a sub, say don't have one hooked up? I haven't tried this and I swear there was a section on low bass output with Dirac but can not find it. Even when I crank the bass way up to compensate for how low Dirac turns the subs it's still lost its punch. This is for theater application only no music in this room. Could I perhaps plug in the filters applied to all the other speakers manually and just leave the sub section alone? If so where would I find the actual filter info in an easy to read form? Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Post by bolle on Mar 17, 2016 5:21:56 GMT -5
Listen for a few weeks. Chances are high that you are used to room modes and "boomy" bass so that the flattened frequency response by DIRAC feels like it is lacking punch when in reality it is not.
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Post by geebo on Mar 17, 2016 6:53:47 GMT -5
Well guys I've been searching the forums for sometime now trying to find some advice on how to address low bass output when Dirac is engaged. I really like what Dirac does for the rest of my theater speakers but wish I could bypass it for the subwoofer section, is there a way to do this? Is there a way to run Dirac without it processing for a sub, say don't have one hooked up? I haven't tried this and I swear there was a section on low bass output with Dirac but can not find it. Even when I crank the bass way up to compensate for how low Dirac turns the subs it's still lost its punch. This is for theater application only no music in this room. Could I perhaps plug in the filters applied to all the other speakers manually and just leave the sub section alone? If so where would I find the actual filter info in an easy to read form? Any help is greatly appreciated! If you haven't already done so, you might think about getting the Dirac Full upgrade for 99 bucks. You can adjust the target curve to your liking and can also use other brand calibrated microphones. It's well worth the price. |
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Post by total2727 on Mar 17, 2016 7:41:37 GMT -5
Well guys I've been searching the forums for sometime now trying to find some advice on how to address low bass output when Dirac is engaged. I really like what Dirac does for the rest of my theater speakers but wish I could bypass it for the subwoofer section, is there a way to do this? Is there a way to run Dirac without it processing for a sub, say don't have one hooked up? I haven't tried this and I swear there was a section on low bass output with Dirac but can not find it. Even when I crank the bass way up to compensate for how low Dirac turns the subs it's still lost its punch. This is for theater application only no music in this room. Could I perhaps plug in the filters applied to all the other speakers manually and just leave the sub section alone? If so where would I find the actual filter info in an easy to read form? Any help is greatly appreciated! If you haven't already done so, you might think about getting the Dirac Full upgrade for 99 bucks. You can adjust the target curve to your liking and can also use other brand calibrated microphones. It's well worth the price. +1 the full upgrade is worth the money, you can get it sounding the way " YOU " like. |
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Post by millst on Mar 17, 2016 9:00:00 GMT -5
The full version lets you exclude lower/upper frequency ranges so you could prevent Dirac from touching the bass frequencies (those are usually the ones that benefit the most, however). Some free options to try before spending $99:
1) Use your SPL meter to check you levels (sometimes the sub level is too low after cal, although this might really be an indication that your measurements were poor)
2) Use an alternate calibration file. If you don't know what that is, read the FAQ ansat put together.
You could also post your Dirac graph for the sub, which might give us a better idea what is going on.
-tm
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Post by dust770 on Mar 17, 2016 13:27:33 GMT -5
thx for reply guys, I actually do have Dirac full but perhaps I'm not understanding how to tell the program not to touch the sub frequencies. I have calibrated it with an Spl meter as well. I think I prefer the sub not to be eq'ed. I simply see no option to leave out the lower frequencies.
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Post by geebo on Mar 17, 2016 13:37:16 GMT -5
thx for reply guys, I actually do have Dirac full but perhaps I'm not understanding how to tell the program not to touch the sub frequencies. I have calibrated it with an Spl meter as well. I think I prefer the sub not to be eq'ed. I simply see no option to leave out the lower frequencies. Drag the left side curtain to the right to the frequency below which you don't want Dirac to adjust. You'll have to remove any anchor points below that frequency in order to do so. You might want to try the same with the mains if that doesn't get you the desired results. Have you tried adjusting the target curve at all? |
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Post by dust770 on Mar 17, 2016 13:45:42 GMT -5
Thx Geebo, I did try that but prob didn't get rid of the anchor points as it didn't move much. I have messed with the curve a bit but really wanted to see what it was like without being touched by filters. When I get back home I'll give it another shot thx!
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Post by dust770 on Mar 17, 2016 14:16:26 GMT -5
Ok so now that I've gotten back into the program I remember why I couldn't adjust the curtain. I can't seem to figure out how to remove The anchor points. There is three of them there and all I can do is slide them left or right but I cannot get rid of them. In fact I can't add new ones either, a little plus pops up if I hover my mouse over it but there is no way to select it. I click mouse and it does nothing, right click, left click, nothing. I can slide them but by simply sliding them left or right I can only select a section of frequencies I don't want touched but I cannot select everything below 80 Hz like I would prefer. Can anyone tell me how to take the anchor points off? I'm sure it's something simple that will make me feel foolish once revealed, ha ha not sure if it matters but this is the Mac version. Thanks again
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Post by geebo on Mar 17, 2016 14:20:06 GMT -5
Ok so now that I've gotten back into the program I remember why I couldn't adjust the curtain. I can't seem to figure out how to remove The anchor points. There is three of them there and all I can do is slide them left or right but I cannot get rid of them. In fact I can't add new ones either, a little plus pops up if I hover my mouse over it but there is no way to select it. I click mouse and it does nothing, right click, left click, nothing. I can slide them but by simply sliding them left or right I can only select a section of frequencies I don't want touched but I cannot select everything below 80 Hz like I would prefer. Can anyone tell me how to take the anchor points off? I'm sure it's something simple that will make me feel foolish once revealed, ha ha not sure if it matters but this is the Mac version. Thanks again I think it may be a quick double left click on the point. |
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Post by dust770 on Mar 17, 2016 14:24:08 GMT -5
Ha thx Geebo like I said simple but for some silly reason I overlooked it. Most things on Mac only use one click, got out of the habit of double clicking! I can get rid of two anchor points but seem to be stuck with one. Perhaps this is a no removable anchor? I can move it out of the way so to speak
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Post by geebo on Mar 17, 2016 14:28:01 GMT -5
Ha thx Geebo like I said simple but for some silly reason I overlooked it. Most things on Mac only use one click, got out of the habit of double clicking! I can get rid of two anchor points but seem to be stuck with one. Perhaps this is a no removable anchor? I can move it out of the way so to speak Perhaps if you have the sub selected in Dirac's speaker configuration it must have at least one anchor point active. I never tried to remove all of them from a target curve. |
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Post by creimes on Mar 17, 2016 14:58:31 GMT -5
There is a thread on how to configure Dirac that Ansat here put up, just have to look for it, has a lot about opening the actual file it saves and just changing or adding adjustments directly in the file and saving it and then opening it with dirac and applying it to the XMC-1. I have done it myself but I haven't had the XMC-1 for like 4 months now so I forgot off hand haha.
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Post by creimes on Mar 17, 2016 14:59:54 GMT -5
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