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Post by vneal on Mar 17, 2016 15:14:56 GMT -5
Attending a DOUBLE BLIND test on Tubes vs Class D Amp
The topic will be: comparing the sound, to demonstrate the differences, of a DSonic state of the art class D amplifier to a VAC 300.1 tube amplifier. This is NOT a contest to see which is better. It has been requested by some members to hear the sound differences between these two type of amplifiers. So we will listen to them and discuss what we hear
Any guess on which I will prefer and why? This is 2 channel
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Post by brubacca on Mar 17, 2016 15:36:27 GMT -5
It will be very interesting which you prefer. I know what I think know you will prefer. I recently went an extended period of time using a SS system which included (2) XPA-100. Unfortunately I can'tell do double blind. I am very happy with my Rogue Cronus back in the mix. Although that may just be snobbery and bias,
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Post by Loop 7 on Mar 17, 2016 16:23:06 GMT -5
I'm going to a friend's house soon to hear an amp he claims gets so close to tubes but with the benefits of power. He's a tube fanatic but has an open mind and has been very interested in Class D.
I think Class D is going to finally be huge and imagine how D amps will change shipping.
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Post by brubacca on Mar 17, 2016 16:51:35 GMT -5
I would love to try Rogue's TubeD, but at $3k and $4k price points, I'm out.
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Post by drtrey3 on Mar 18, 2016 9:18:04 GMT -5
Reading about great sounding class D amps is much different from actually hearing one.
Trey
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Post by moovtune on Mar 18, 2016 14:10:09 GMT -5
I've been listening to my 3 D-Sonic amps every day for a couple of years now and have no complaints. And none from my friend who has expensive tube amps in his setup. I'm sure he probably prefers his, but he has no complaints about mine either.
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Post by KeithL on Mar 18, 2016 15:57:29 GMT -5
I would expect a good Class D amp to be neutral - just like any other good solid state amp. I would expect a good tube amp to NOT be neutral (there wouldn't be much point in a tube amp that didn't sound like a tube amp). There is no good technical reason why a Class D amp should sound like a tube amp - unless someone went to a lot of trouble to MAKE it sound that way.
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Post by brubacca on Mar 18, 2016 16:32:13 GMT -5
When is the fun?
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Post by audiobill on Mar 18, 2016 18:49:54 GMT -5
Oh, boy,,,,,,,
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Post by lizard84 on May 24, 2016 12:55:52 GMT -5
I have a D-Sonic M3-1200S amp with the Pascal technology. It has 600 watts into 8 ohms with 1000 watts into my 4 ohm Magnepan speaker system .
It is easily the best sounding to my ears of the 4 amps I've used in my current system, all I consider damn good. My other amps tried in this system are a Emotiva XPA-3 , a Emotiva XPA-3 Gen 2 (which I upgraded through Emotiva, from the gen 1, Thank you!) and a McIntosh MC7270
Very deep lows, a tube like mid range and airy on top with headroom a plenty, the best I've had, possibly one of the best things I've heard under 10 grand, and certainly under 5 while knocking about higher end audio shops and like minded sonic travelers and their systems.
One doesn't have to go lot of trouble to MAKE an amp sound a certain way, they simply design it with a voice in mind, neutral or otherwise.
I'm very pleased with my emotiva amp, it handles center and surround duty wonderfully and would do anyone proud for two channel duty, The McIntosh for all there rep has nothing on the Emotiva or the D-Sonic for planar speakers duty.
Also Dennis who is D-Sonic is a pleasure to deal with, if you have any question drop him an e-mail.
For those wondering about associated equipment, I use a Modwright LS100 preamp (tubed pre) , a Oppo 105D, and emotiva speaker cable and interconnects that are all well made and do their job quite well, Magnepan Super MMG's (on sound anchor stands) with 2 DWM bass panels and a Salk/Rythmik sub.
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