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Post by TyeDye on Feb 14, 2018 11:35:50 GMT -5
This is a quote from the current product page copied just 2 misn ago .......... "The XMC-1 is a state-of-the-art modular home theater and surround sound audio processor designed to deliver the ultimate in sound quality. Every iteration updates to include the most essential new cutting-edge features available, and every generation is upgradeable to our latest standard. We believe that a truly great product is one you can enjoy today and for years to come, which is why our path for the XMC-1 is clear far into the future. With this and any Emotiva device, you’ll be able to enjoy your investment for a long, long time." Is cutting-edge the same as timely, cuz colonel kline said vehemently that they never mentioned timely, so don't infer timely😂 No they were more specific than timely ..... They gave specific target dates and have moved them multiple times to now they are saying by the end of this month ..... Again if your just Throwing Up into this blog space ... It dosen't make you look good.... I've talked with the Boss at Emotiva many times evidently you are not in the loop. and 4k
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Post by bootman on Feb 14, 2018 12:49:03 GMT -5
Unless we get a link to order, everyone here is throwing up in this thread. Myself included.
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Post by klinemj on Feb 14, 2018 13:12:09 GMT -5
IBTL...
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Post by Bonzo on Feb 14, 2018 13:29:59 GMT -5
This is one I don't recognize. Call me stupid I guess. What's it stand for?
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Post by bootman on Feb 14, 2018 13:37:34 GMT -5
In Before The Lock. And yes this thread has seriously run its course with nothing new to add.
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Post by monkumonku on Feb 14, 2018 14:02:30 GMT -5
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Post by ÈlTwo on Feb 14, 2018 14:15:26 GMT -5
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Post by Gary Cook on Feb 14, 2018 14:48:30 GMT -5
In Before The Lock. And yes this thread has seriously run its course with nothing new to add. Really, so you already knew that ARC was part of the CEC standard, or is it vice versa? I didn't until this thread. Did you know that LG C7P's pass Dolby Atmos via ARC. I don't until this thread. Do LG C7P's have E-ARC? I don't know about you but I'd like to know, but I wouldn't have even known to ask but for this thread. Are they equiped with HDMI 2.1? Or do they pass Dolby Atmos via HDMI 2.0b? Is it a "special" LG version of 2.0b or do they all pass Atmos? Does it also handle DTSX? Which leads to the big question, what will the XMC-1 4K HDMI handle? Some answers that I know as a result of this thread, plus some questions that I now know to ask, also as a result of this thread. Maybe it's a dead horse for you, but it sure isn't for me. Cheers Gary
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Post by Gary Cook on Feb 14, 2018 15:02:33 GMT -5
ARC is limited to DD 5.1. On most Samsung TV's for ARC to work CEC needs to be turned on, which means a whole world of pain. I see, I guess it depends on your tv. My LG C7P can do Dolby Atmos via ARC which is why I thought it would be a viable solution. Most streaming only need DD but I get it’s not ideal for Apple TV 4K. That's both interesting and important which raises some questions....... Does it have HDMI 2.0b or 2.1? Is it ARC or E-ARC? If 2.0b is it a "special" LG version? Does it also handle DTSX? Cheers Gary
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Post by hemster on Feb 14, 2018 15:34:54 GMT -5
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Post by davidl81 on Feb 14, 2018 15:40:08 GMT -5
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Post by bootman on Feb 14, 2018 16:56:31 GMT -5
In Before The Lock. And yes this thread has seriously run its course with nothing new to add. Really, so you already knew that ARC was part of the CEC standard, or is it vice versa? I didn't until this thread. Did you know that LG C7P's pass Dolby Atmos via ARC. I don't until this thread. Do LG C7P's have E-ARC? I don't know about you but I'd like to know, but I wouldn't have even known to ask but for this thread. Are they equiped with HDMI 2.1? Or do they pass Dolby Atmos via HDMI 2.0b? Is it a "special" LG version of 2.0b or do they all pass Atmos? Does it also handle DTSX? Which leads to the big question, what will the XMC-1 4K HDMI handle? Some answers that I know as a result of this thread, plus some questions that I now know to ask, also as a result of this thread. Maybe it's a dead horse for you, but it sure isn't for me. Cheers Gary Yes on the LG. I have C6P with HDMI 2.0a and mine doesn't do this. The C7 does not have HDMI 2.1. Nothing currently out to my knowledge has. Nothing to my knowledge passes DTX. I know that ARC does not pass HD audio but that is OK since it was designed to pass the audio from your displays built in streaming apps and no streaming video service provides HD audio. They are also now streaming low bitrate Dolby Atmos thus why some newer displays can pass it after a firmware upgrade to there HDMI 2.0b outputs. (but no high bitrate HD Audio so I'll stick to dual HDMI out of my 4K player) But since the XMC HDMI board will not have HDMI 2.1 why is this even a point yet? Also the Emotiva lounge isn't my only source of HT knowledge on the net. Good place to start. www.hdmi.org
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Post by Gary Cook on Feb 14, 2018 18:18:11 GMT -5
Really, so you already knew that ARC was part of the CEC standard, or is it vice versa? I didn't until this thread. Did you know that LG C7P's pass Dolby Atmos via ARC. I don't until this thread. Do LG C7P's have E-ARC? I don't know about you but I'd like to know, but I wouldn't have even known to ask but for this thread. Are they equiped with HDMI 2.1? Or do they pass Dolby Atmos via HDMI 2.0b? Is it a "special" LG version of 2.0b or do they all pass Atmos? Does it also handle DTSX? Which leads to the big question, what will the XMC-1 4K HDMI handle? Some answers that I know as a result of this thread, plus some questions that I now know to ask, also as a result of this thread. Maybe it's a dead horse for you, but it sure isn't for me. Yes on the LG. I have C6P with HDMI 2.0a and mine doesn't do this. The C7 does not have HDMI 2.1. Nothing currently out to my knowledge has. Nothing to my knowledge passes DTX. I know that ARC does not pass HD audio but that is OK since it was designed to pass the audio from your displays built in streaming apps and no streaming video service provides HD audio. They are also now streaming low bitrate Dolby Atmos thus why some newer displays can pass it after a firmware upgrade to there HDMI 2.0b outputs. (but no high bitrate HD Audio so I'll stick to dual HDMI out of my 4K player) But since the XMC HDMI board will not have HDMI 2.1 why is this even a point yet? Also the Emotiva lounge isn't my only source of HT knowledge on the net. Good place to start. www.hdmi.orgI'm learning all sorts of new information in this thread. Plus new questions to ask, such as ................ If ARC "was designed to pass the audio from your displays built in streaming apps" how come it's called ARC (Audio Return Channel)? If the audio is coming from the TV Apps to the processor there is no "returning" going on. It's simply passing it on, maybe it should be called APC (Audio Passing Channel). I've not heard of "low bit rate Atmos", having visited HDMI.org many times I haven't seen a standard for that. Is it just LG or are other manufacturers doing it? Is "low bit rate Atmos" another way of describing Atmos delivered via Dolby Digital Plus? Whereas "high bit rate Atmos" (if there is such a name) is delivered via Dolby TrueHD? In regards to a DTSX "low bit rate version" or lack thereof, I have noticed higher bit rates and less compression when comparing some DTSX tracks to Dolby Atmos tracks, albeit a small sample size. I recall that DTSX was promoted (by DTS) as being superior to Atmos as a result of that (higher bit rate with less compression). Is that why DTSX isn't being handled by LG TV's? In regards to the XMC-1 and HDMI 2.1, that isn't really the question, what I'm interested in is what does 2.1 facilitate that 2.0b doesn't? That's in a practical real world sense, what the manufacturers are actually implementing. Which is not the same as reading what the HDMI standard says. I'm so glad this thread is still alive Cheers Gary
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Post by LCSeminole on Feb 14, 2018 19:48:36 GMT -5
I find any talk about E-ARC and it passing Dolby Atmos/DTS:X to be a pipe dream at best, or a mirage of sorts. If E-ARC doesn't have an industry standard in which all manufacturers have to follow so that it actually works (unlike the current ARC) then all we will have is a really good idea for a feature that won't work as described. I'll believe this feature works when my blood pressure doesn't rise when I successfully implement it with a future TV.
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Post by Gary Cook on Feb 14, 2018 21:10:06 GMT -5
I find any talk about E-ARC and it passing Dolby Atmos/DTS:X to be a pipe dream at best, or a mirage of sorts. If E-ARC doesn't have an industry standard in which all manufacturers have to follow so that it actually works (unlike the current ARC) then all we will have is a really good idea for a feature that won't work as described. I'll believe this feature works when my blood pressure doesn't rise when I successfully implement it with a future TV. The ARC bit (audio from TV to UMC-200) works perfectly for me, where applicable Dolby Digital 5.1, no problems. It's having to have CEC turned on that's a *bleep*, that causes me some grief, with stuff turning on or off when I don't want it to. However, with a 5 metre run I did need a new super duper HDMI cable with ARC and ethernet. But at least I have one already for HDMI 2.0b, when I need it. Cheers Gary
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Post by ÈlTwo on Feb 14, 2018 21:37:34 GMT -5
ARC is actually useful for sending audio from the TV's built in apps out to the processor; I don't really see The Grand Tour as being in ATMOS any time soon.
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Post by tchaik on Feb 14, 2018 21:49:47 GMT -5
Its just a subpar fix but it works ..... for one 4k source. with limitations. Why not have the PROMISED real thing. Not meant for Lrc. To the die hard uninformed ,,,,,,,,,,, Please .... If you are not energetic enough to email Emotiva management or read the current product pages Please Please dont just regurgitate nonsense as if you are knowledgeable. It just shows your lack of understanding and wastes serious peoples time. too much ping for the pong tyedye........
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Post by bootman on Feb 14, 2018 22:36:42 GMT -5
Yes on the LG. I have C6P with HDMI 2.0a and mine doesn't do this. The C7 does not have HDMI 2.1. Nothing currently out to my knowledge has. Nothing to my knowledge passes DTX. I know that ARC does not pass HD audio but that is OK since it was designed to pass the audio from your displays built in streaming apps and no streaming video service provides HD audio. They are also now streaming low bitrate Dolby Atmos thus why some newer displays can pass it after a firmware upgrade to there HDMI 2.0b outputs. (but no high bitrate HD Audio so I'll stick to dual HDMI out of my 4K player) But since the XMC HDMI board will not have HDMI 2.1 why is this even a point yet? Also the Emotiva lounge isn't my only source of HT knowledge on the net. Good place to start. www.hdmi.orgI'm learning all sorts of new information in this thread. Plus new questions to ask, such as ................ If ARC "was designed to pass the audio from your displays built in streaming apps" how come it's called ARC (Audio Return Channel)? If the audio is coming from the TV Apps to the processor there is no "returning" going on. It's simply passing it on, maybe it should be called APC (Audio Passing Channel). I've not heard of "low bit rate Atmos", having visited HDMI.org many times I haven't seen a standard for that. Is it just LG or are other manufacturers doing it? Is "low bit rate Atmos" another way of describing Atmos delivered via Dolby Digital Plus? Whereas "high bit rate Atmos" (if there is such a name) is delivered via Dolby TrueHD? In regards to a DTSX "low bit rate version" or lack thereof, I have noticed higher bit rates and less compression when comparing some DTSX tracks to Dolby Atmos tracks, albeit a small sample size. I recall that DTSX was promoted (by DTS) as being superior to Atmos as a result of that (higher bit rate with less compression). Is that why DTSX isn't being handled by LG TV's? In regards to the XMC-1 and HDMI 2.1, that isn't really the question, what I'm interested in is what does 2.1 facilitate that 2.0b doesn't? That's in a practical real world sense, what the manufacturers are actually implementing. Which is not the same as reading what the HDMI standard says. I'm so glad this thread is still alive Cheers Gary This topic is perfectly fine for another thread. But the where is the xmc hdmi thread? Any good info just get buried under the garbage.
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Post by cwt on Feb 15, 2018 5:02:37 GMT -5
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Post by bootman on Feb 15, 2018 8:10:30 GMT -5
I've not heard of "low bit rate Atmos", having visited HDMI.org many times I haven't seen a standard for that. Is it just LG or are other manufacturers doing it? Is "low bit rate Atmos" another way of describing Atmos delivered via Dolby Digital Plus? Whereas "high bit rate Atmos" (if there is such a name) is delivered via Dolby TrueHD? Streaming services offering Atmos sound tracks are not using the higher bitrate HD audio track found on blurays. But you already knew that based on your responses. As far as other manufactures offering Atmos over ARC, you can always just click here.
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