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Post by petes on Apr 14, 2016 17:30:54 GMT -5
I don't have any specific answers there yet. I suspect we'll be doing something involving our new International Distributors - but, until it's finalized, I'm NOT going to say anything that can turn out to be wrong later Keith, what's the plan for International customers? Shipping the XMC back for a new board would likely cost me $250 and mean being without my setup working for 2-3 weeks. Hi Keith. Understand using the disti's makes sense in countries where they exist, but where they don't (I live in the UK and am quite happy to still be able to buy things direct from your website) it's not much help sadly. We need a home fit option to be practical. I know there's a small risk we'd mess it up, but i'd say two international flights and multiple courier load/unload/drop/oops/pickup cycles are far more likely to damage the xmc.... Pete S
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Post by jmilton on Apr 19, 2016 7:28:35 GMT -5
So...I need to take scissors to all of the wiring, but my initial impression are thus: Color and contrast are fantastic. The IPS panel produces a deep black due to the 126 zone FALD. Dolby Vision is awesome (Marco Polo on Netflix). Interstellar on blu-ray was upscales to 2160 and looked great. Roku4 (4K) is worth it! Smartcast is good, but it is difficult to use your finger to slide the color adjustments and get them to land on a specific number. Casting is simple and fun...I like being able to display almost anything from the internet onto my UHDTV. Oh, and the people that say they can not see a resolution difference between 1080 and 4K at eight feet...are very wrong. So far, I am super happy with it. Especially for the price! Vizio announced the M, D and E series prices today. Boy, are they gonna sell a bunch! Netflix announced today that they will have over 150 hours of HDR/DV programing by end of this year. Now's a good time to take the 4k plunge!
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Post by cawgijoe on Apr 19, 2016 8:04:35 GMT -5
I completely agree with jmilton when he says "Oh, and the people that say they can not see a resolution difference between 1080 and 4K at eight feet...are very wrong."
I really don't understand how they can't see the better PQ. That includes professional reviewers. May be time to retire if your eyes are that bad!
I'm loving my Samsung JS850D SUHD set. Really looking forward to watching Daredevil in 4K this week and the future Oppo 4K player.
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Post by chipless on Apr 19, 2016 18:55:40 GMT -5
The 4k upgrade board for the XMC-1 will be shipping in several weeks (development is basically finished and we're waiting for parts). This board will upgrade the XMC-1 to have one HDMI 2.0 / HDCP 2.2 input (and one HDMI 2.0 output). It will not, however, support HDR. This will be a "factory upgrade". We expect to have another HDMI 2.0 upgrade option later in the year - possibly with four HDMI 2.0 ports and support for full HDR as well - but there are no firm details about that one yet.. I apologize if there is already a thread about this but I did a quick search and didn't find anything. Has there been any talk of an HDMI board upgrade for 4K? Like a lot of you I'm start to get 4K devices, UHD BR player, and a Directv 4K receiver. Amen Corner at Augusta looks amazing on Directv in 4K. Its just inconvenient to have to run dual HDMI's for audio and video or have to go back to optical for audio. Great news! Just sold my Marantz 8802a and purchased an XMC-1, and the only thing that could make me happier would be a full HDR upgrade at some point in the next year or so. I'll keep my fingers crossed. Thanks Keith!
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Post by Dan Laufman on Apr 22, 2016 21:05:59 GMT -5
I can assure you that our new HDR capable HDMI board IS coming along nicely.
You can purchase the XMC-1 with complete confidence knowing that it will be kept up to date.
Thanks for your confidence in Emotiva! Cheers, Big Dan
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Post by bolle on Apr 23, 2016 0:56:53 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Dan! Will the new processors coming this year (Emersa, BasX) already be HDR compatible? I know that HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 will be there but I didn´t read HDR so far - or I overlooked it.
Best regards
Fabian
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Post by usxplong on Apr 23, 2016 13:52:03 GMT -5
The 4k upgrade board for the XMC-1 will be shipping in several weeks (development is basically finished and we're waiting for parts). This board will upgrade the XMC-1 to have one HDMI 2.0 / HDCP 2.2 input (and one HDMI 2.0 output). It will not, however, support HDR. This will be a "factory upgrade". We expect to have another HDMI 2.0 upgrade option later in the year - possibly with four HDMI 2.0 ports and support for full HDR as well - but there are no firm details about that one yet.. Great news! Just sold my Marantz 8802a and purchased an XMC-1, and the only thing that could make me happier would be a full HDR upgrade at some point in the next year or so. I'll keep my fingers crossed. Thanks Keith! How do you compare sound quality between 8802a and XMC-1? I had the 8801 and XMC-1 beats it hard.
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Post by bibby on Apr 26, 2016 21:58:06 GMT -5
has anyone tried using third party devices like WolfPack HDCP 2.2 to HDCP 1.4 Converter on their XMC-1's to play 4k content ?
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Post by cwt on Apr 27, 2016 7:34:03 GMT -5
has anyone tried using third party devices like WolfPack HDCP 2.2 to HDCP 1.4 Converter on their XMC-1's to play 4k content ? Sounds similar to the hd fury integral bibby but i wonder if they mean hdmi 1.4 . I would go the hd fury integral myself ; cheaper and not flakey conversion like some asian makes can be. The xmc1 doesnt alter the passthrough like many and once the hdcp drm is stripped it should handle hi bandwidth uhd fine going on the specs Maybe someone has tried it for sure ? www.hdfury.com/convert-hdcp2-2-to-1-4/
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Post by bibby on Apr 28, 2016 22:36:47 GMT -5
Apparently there are a few out in the market that does this as well, i wonder if this would be the better option for users who can't send in their XMC's for board upgrade
HDfury Integral Atlona UHD Sync Key Digital KD-HDFIX22 Wolfpack HDCP2.2 HDCP1.4 converter Cypress XA-HDCP
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Post by cwt on Apr 29, 2016 6:45:33 GMT -5
Apparently there are a few out in the market that does this as well, i wonder if this would be the better option for users who can't send in their XMC's for board upgrade HDfury Integral Atlona UHD Sync Key Digital KD-HDFIX22 Wolfpack HDCP2.2 HDCP1.4 converter Cypress XA-HDCP Some quality makes there bibby ; theres also the question of what the source is and whether its outputting say 4k/60 with or without HDR which would present a bottleneck due to the very high bandwidth without a hdmi2.0 port upgrade . But nobody has tried it with a hdcp stripper with the xmc1 afaik so maybe get a loaner as I gather its possible in the US ? HDMI1.4b is adequate for uhd bluray @24p I should mention too just needs hdcp help.
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 4, 2016 9:30:44 GMT -5
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Post by wfdtamar on May 4, 2016 16:56:31 GMT -5
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Post by cwt on May 5, 2016 7:17:16 GMT -5
Hi mate ; not considering the port upgrade done locally by final link ? Yes the integral is a way around it for uhd bluray @ 24p as I mentioned above but as for netflix 4k/60 in the future that would be conjecture as you would need the integral to handle the higher bandwidth ie you may have to set it to a lower bandwidth for xmc1 passthrough [if its not done automatically due to your download rate?] ie Or you can just get the 4x2 hdmi2.0a port upgrade later in the year HDR is another factor that you may lose on passthrough with the integral without a hdmi port upgrade ; HDR is more important for picture quality than resolution imo Maybe take a look at Jmiltons thoughts above about uhd with HDR [dolby vision variety] coming from streaming and imagine how it will look coming off a universal studios uhd disc with 5x;s the bit rate .. The lg downmarket oleds are coming and they keep dropping in price ::)Let us know what you decide ; its a complex issue depending on the capabilities of your panel as well.
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Post by wfdtamar on May 5, 2016 20:57:17 GMT -5
I think I follow that. You reckon the XMC-1, as it is now, may not be able to handle Netflix 4k stuff (not enough HDMI bandwidth)? Just about to get fibre NBN here and do use Netflix so that is a consideration.
It may not matter for me anyway as (until my UMC-1 died) I sent input from sources to a DVDO iScan Duo, then video to TV and audio to the UMC-1. If I replace the DVDO with a 4k capable equivalent (at the moment very pricy) I'd be set up the same way.
The iScan Duo is magic for the ability to calibrate the TV automatically for the layman (with a calibration device and laptop attached). All my sources go into that and it does the switching (not the UMC-1). A proper calibration made a so so TV far better.
I'm in Tasmania, so even the Final Link board upgrade would be an expensive ship (maybe close or more than the HDFury Integral).
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Post by cwt on May 6, 2016 2:29:25 GMT -5
I think I follow that. You reckon the XMC-1, as it is now, may not be able to handle Netflix 4k stuff (not enough HDMI bandwidth)? Just about to get fibre NBN here and do use Netflix so that is a consideration. It may not matter for me anyway as (until my UMC-1 died) I sent input from sources to a DVDO iScan Duo, then video to TV and audio to the UMC-1. If I replace the DVDO with a 4k capable equivalent (at the moment very pricy) I'd be set up the same way. The iScan Duo is magic for the ability to calibrate the TV automatically for the layman (with a calibration device and laptop attached). All my sources go into that and it does the switching (not the UMC-1). A proper calibration made a so so TV far better. I'm in Tasmania, so even the Final Link board upgrade would be an expensive ship (maybe close or more than the HDFury Integral). Ide say without an upgrade the chances are none as hdmi1.4b[10.2 gbps] is not good for the 18gbps that is needed for 4k/60 let alone with HDR as well .Ime in the same boat as we just got a big marker near the footpath with a capital T in the middle of it that means the NBN I suspect . I had a duo too as I couldnt afford a lumagen ; maybe the hdmi2.0 models will trickle down to a radiance mini replacement ? wont be a lot of 4k sources for us compared to the US Final link are distributors so may be worth enquiring about any resellers in Tassie that may help - if there are any ? Be better than paying $500 + for shipping to the states . I am waiting on a fully loaded one as the less travel the better
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Post by alucard on May 7, 2016 7:50:45 GMT -5
Would the XMC-1 need an update to support dolby vision or would that be inherently supported with the new HDMI2.0/HDCP2.2/HDR board?
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Post by geebo on May 7, 2016 9:25:24 GMT -5
Would the XMC-1 need an update to support dolby vision or would that be inherently supported with the new HDMI2.0/HDCP2.2/HDR board? Video is simply passed through in the XMC. It may require HDMI 2.0 and/or HDCP 2.2 but the XMC does nothing but pass video.
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Post by LCSeminole on May 7, 2016 10:40:23 GMT -5
From what I understand, Dolby Vision is an HDR format which requires the corresponding flat panel display(LCD or OLED) to have a Dolby Vision decoder built-in. So as geebo stated above, since the video is simply passed through then it would be the flat panel displays responsibility to decode that information.
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Post by alucard on May 7, 2016 13:19:21 GMT -5
Thanks guys.
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