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Post by socketman on Oct 19, 2016 21:20:50 GMT -5
Somewhere on the forum in the old threads for the XMC-1 is a discussion about setting up Dirac and subs. The consensus seemed to be that it was best to let Dirac tune the subs using a Y cable and connecting the 2 subs together as one. After Dirac was done then use a minidsp to correct the time difference between the 2 subs and make any minor adjustments using REW. This worked well for me when I had my subs at opposite ends of the room. If at all possible I would suggest some panels for the wall made from Safe&Sound and also add some diffraction such as book cases . emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/40671/alternative-dirac-technique
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Post by millst on Oct 19, 2016 22:08:15 GMT -5
I think you would want to perform the MiniDSP portion first. Changing the alignment after invalidates the Dirac filters.
-tm
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Post by geebo on Oct 20, 2016 7:17:13 GMT -5
I think you would want to perform the MiniDSP portion first. Changing the alignment after invalidates the Dirac filters. -tm That's the way I do it. Works well.
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Post by dkaudio on Oct 20, 2016 9:39:52 GMT -5
My subs look pretty good for 1/24 right? I have not reran Dirac, I think I'll keep it were it is for my Sat party, it does sound much better than before. I wanted to turn my subs up louder so Dirac doesn't boost as much but then it clips in Dirac so that is no good. I found the best is to try and flatten them as much as possible before running Dirac so it has less to correct. I'll keep the XMC-1 trim level at 0 and just use my gain knobs on the iNuke if I want it louder, that should help with headroom too.
On a cold snowy day off I will plan on really tuning the iNuke and running Dirac again. I found that wider measurements (22" or so with 10" above or below the MLP test) made it sound much better.
I am having issues understanding the width setting in the iNuke though. Sometimes a high number (6) will make things look good and other times can change the whole line! Usually I am around 2-3 for the width setting. Can anyone explain that so I can guess more intelligently?
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Post by geebo on Oct 20, 2016 10:17:38 GMT -5
Here's how I got my subs after some fine tuning and using 1/24 smoothing... Subs look fine. But have you tried running a trace with both running simultaneously to see if there is any weird interactions?
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Post by millst on Oct 20, 2016 10:29:05 GMT -5
(Broken record) The full version of Dirac lets you adjust the volume level on a per channel basis.
Are you talking about Q or bandwidth (not exactly the same, but not going into it)? They affect how far out the gain applies from the center frequency. Higher Q is more narrow width and affects less frequencies. It's not uncommon for small changes in EQ to affect the overall response in unexpected ways.
-tm
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Post by dkaudio on Oct 20, 2016 10:37:16 GMT -5
Subs look fine. But have you tried running a trace with both running simultaneously to see if there is any weird interactions? I have not, good idea. (Broken record) The full version of Dirac lets you adjust the volume level on a per channel basis. Are you talking about Q or bandwidth (not exactly the same, but not going into it)? They affect how far out the gain applies from the center frequency. Higher Q is more narrow width and affects less frequencies. It's not uncommon for small changes in EQ to affect the overall response in unexpected ways. -tm I was referring to the "Quality" knobs in the PEQ section of the iNuke DSP software.
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Post by dkaudio on Oct 20, 2016 16:37:48 GMT -5
Here is both subs playing the sweep together...
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Post by geebo on Oct 20, 2016 19:03:32 GMT -5
Here is both subs playing the sweep together... If you overlay that with the individual curves then ideally the combined curve should be at a higher level across the entire range. If it dips below the individual curves at some points then there could be a phase difference at those points. From what I can tell, yours looks okay.
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Post by millst on Oct 21, 2016 1:29:45 GMT -5
Quality = Q
-tm
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