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Post by Lsc on Nov 17, 2016 12:48:14 GMT -5
What's the release timeframe? 2017, 2018?
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Post by novisnick on Nov 17, 2016 12:54:44 GMT -5
What's the release timeframe? 2017, 2018? Ill give you a STRONG maybe!  |
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Post by beardedalbatross on Nov 17, 2016 13:10:39 GMT -5
What's the release timeframe? 2017, 2018? Sometime after the Emersa line launches early 2016 along with that BasX HT processor......wait a second! I'm a Cuban living in Miami, and let me tell you we are infamous for running on "Cuban-time" but I might have to update the phrase to "Emo-time" (Yes, I know it was delayed for Atmos just messing around)  |
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Post by rhale64 on Nov 17, 2016 15:09:12 GMT -5
I need my fix. We need more hints, photos, insider info, anything on this.
This is what I am planning my whole equipment upgrades around.
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Post by Gary Cook on Nov 17, 2016 15:09:32 GMT -5
Ok, 16, let's think about this. 9.3.4 Or 7.3.6 If I were interested in ATMOS (but I'm not) I would vote for the second. I only need 14, zone 1 = 5.1.2, zone 2 = 2.1 and zone 3 = 2.1 It would be good to be able to run subs for the verandah and the garage  Cheers Gary |
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Post by richardrc on Nov 17, 2016 17:22:22 GMT -5
I am impressed by the very short signal (analog) path, you couldn't get much shorter. It should perform very well. I have seen inside photos of the "reference processor" the Trinov Altitude32 and it is a dogs breakfast, looks like a prototype, which is probably why they only quote the capabilities of the DACs and not the outputs. Edit: To me it looks very to be a very similar output stage to the XMC-1 DAC->Filter/Buffer(I/V)->Digital Volume Control->Relay->Final drive Let the DAC speculation begin  Oh. I guess I figured a DAC package would be bigger. I guess I've spent way too much time with large ASICs recently. I guess you're right. The AK4490 for instance is here and the linked News Release shows it as being a 48-pin LQFP. There's no physical size given, but it looks pretty small. And the TI Burr-Brown DSD1796 used in the XMC-1 is here and is a DIP 7.8mm x 10.2mm ... So yeah, I guess those could be DACs of some form or another. Casey |
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Post by LCSeminole on Nov 17, 2016 19:42:42 GMT -5
I need my fix. We need more hints, photos, insider info, anything on this. This is what I am planning my whole equipment upgrades around. I've always lived in the here and now, and planned any purchases accordingly. I have, as well, allowed for those products that have been said by the actual manufacturer, to be imminent to be included in my planning. I would say from Dan's stance since the XMC-1 initial release, any hints/photos/insider info just isn't going to happen unless it comes direct from his mouth or his inner circle/employees with his permission. Personally, I was quite surprised when I visited Emotiva in September, that after taking a picture of Ray's computer drawing of the rear of the RMC-1, and asked if I could post it up on the Lounge that Dan said yes, and I remember asking a second time just to make sure he heard and understood what I was asking ). The Lounge used to get more of this insight, but because some members felt it necessary to make it so uncomfortable in threads for the Emotiva team, the insight has ceased to a small trickle, if that. While I'll be one of those on the list to purchase an RMC-1, I personally wouldn't allow non-information to affect any future purchases that I may make. |
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Post by junchoon on Nov 17, 2016 22:19:39 GMT -5
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Post by richardrc on Nov 18, 2016 4:58:48 GMT -5
You will not need a device to impedance match. If your initial setup is with a mix of XLR and RCA then you will not notice any level mismatch. Level mismatch will occur if you swap an amp or switch to XLR instead of RCA, then you would have to level match again. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 18, 2016 10:09:27 GMT -5
I need my fix. We need more hints, photos, insider info, anything on this. This is what I am planning my whole equipment upgrades around. All we know is that they're building this prototype to show at CES in January. If we don't beat them up I'd expect the team might show more pictures and hints along the way. |
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Post by rhale64 on Nov 18, 2016 10:44:43 GMT -5
Ok got it.
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Post by yves on Nov 18, 2016 11:31:25 GMT -5
Just as long as the RMC1 doesn't get auro 3d ; I lol'd... |
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Post by Casey Leedom on Nov 18, 2016 12:29:46 GMT -5
By the way, just to feed the Rumor Mill (since we've got nothing better to do with our time), I compared the fuzzy picture of the output board with the packaging specifications on a bunch of DACs and it looks like we may be seeing AKM (Asahi Kasei Microdevices) DACs there. The writing is too fuzzy to be sure, but they might be AK4490EQs ... Casey |
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Post by cwt on Nov 18, 2016 23:40:28 GMT -5
Just as long as the RMC1 doesn't get auro 3d ; I lol'd... Maybe auro 3d's 3 level speaker separation will give unison a 2nd sound profile without multiple presets |
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Post by rhale64 on Nov 19, 2016 21:30:40 GMT -5
It would be better if it were the newer AKM 4497 dac
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Post by rhale64 on Nov 19, 2016 21:35:00 GMT -5
Or the ESS 9038 pro
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Post by yves on Nov 20, 2016 0:24:09 GMT -5
Or 16 of those (one for each channel). Givf 140 dB DNR pl0x!  |
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Post by rhale64 on Nov 20, 2016 0:49:10 GMT -5
Well you would only need two of them. They are eight channel dacs. Well for a fully balanced design I guess we would need 4.
On another note I can't see any opamps except the bottom right corner of the photo. At least on my phone screen I can't. Anyone else see them?
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Post by mdanderson on Nov 20, 2016 3:01:50 GMT -5
How about if Emotiva came up with a companion piece - sort of how the SP-1 relates to the DC-1? The companion box could have a kick butt phono preamp, a bunch of analog inputs, and video conversion capability. Software would make it appear as an extension of the RMC-1. Communication would be via the balanced inputs and one of the HDMI inputs on the RMC-1. Control would happen over ethernet and be completely transparent to the user. I think that could be a very viable solution, if it were done so it was basically seamless. Something like this could also be a bonus for their other "smaller" processors that already have less inputs. If something like this did exist, what should we expect I wonder? Something this picture of the RMC-1 is totally missing is the 7.1 analog inputs. That's usually something only higher ends units have, so now they are losing them??? Many people will probably call these superfluous, but I don't think so. If you have a high end Oppo player that has these outputs, and you listen to multi-track discs like SACD and DVD-As, then you need these inputs to allow you to use the Sabre DAC's within the Oppo. Many will say why bother with that, but I say why loose that option? So if we had a companion module like you suggest, then the RMC-1 would still need to change. It would need 7.1 added, and then have (1) 2 channel for the module. I would then say it also needs at least (2) XLR balanced inputs (if maybe not 3). In terms of the legacy video stuff, I'm sorry, but there are people out there that still use their VCR's for old video's and home movies etc. Not all the time no, but they are still in use. Yeah, they are going out of production, but they still sold over 600,000 units last year. So they are still in use. The module should have at least one composite video input. I'd also add 1 component set input just to cover things. And then it would need to up-convert those to and HDMI output to plug into one of the HDMI inputs on the RMC-1. So at first bat with this module, let's see..... Inputs(6) 2 channel RCA (1) 2 channel RCA phono, with phono pre-amp built in (1) Composite Video (linked to one of the 2 channel RCA's so video/sound would be together) (1) Component Video set (linked to one of the 2 channel RCA's so video/sound would be together) Outputs(1) 2 channel RCA (1) HDMI (1) Module signal output And the RMC-1 would need....(1) set of 7.1 RCA added (1) only 1 set of 2 ch RCA to hook up with the module (2) XLR 2 channel inputs (1) Module signal input What else? Or what other ideas could be added or changed? Perhaps others could help in the brain storming effort? I certainly like your post bonzo. I have an Oppo 105 and love it for mc music. I would also like to see 7.1 analog unbalanced outs for amps with no balanced inputs. |
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Post by yves on Nov 20, 2016 8:02:49 GMT -5
Well you would only need two of them. They are eight channel dacs. Well for a fully balanced design I guess we would need 4. On another note I can't see any opamps except the bottom right corner of the photo. At least on my phone screen I can't. Anyone else see them? I know they are eight channel DACs, but it is also possible to run them in stereo mode or mono mode. In mono mode they can deliver the highest DNR (Dynamic Range), and BTW the same applies to the famous old ES9018 chip so this helps to explain why my 2 channel separate DAC uses not one, but two ES9018 chips: one for each channel. |
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