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Post by rbk123 on Jan 18, 2017 20:38:15 GMT -5
I will like to have my SSP to be future proof I will like to have peace in the Middle East too.
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Post by Jim on Jan 18, 2017 20:45:49 GMT -5
I will like to have my SSP to be future proof I will like to have peace in the Middle East too. That's hilarious.
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Post by Casey Leedom on Jan 18, 2017 21:03:04 GMT -5
George, I agree with Russ: it looks like you're shooting for something far beyond the market for which the RMC-1 is targeted. There are some 32-channel solutions out there from Datasat and Trinnov. But these will be very expensive solutions ...
Amplifiers are of course easy since they simply pass pre-amplifier signals on to speakers. You just need to decide how much power, etc. you need. The Emotiva XPA Gen3 solutions are likely to satisfy any need you have there for very reasonable costs.
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Post by novisnick on Jan 18, 2017 21:05:00 GMT -5
I will like to have my SSP to be future proof I will like to have peace in the Middle East too. Somebody's village is missing someone!
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Post by hemster on Jan 18, 2017 21:15:17 GMT -5
I will like to have my SSP to be future proof I will like to have peace in the Middle East too. LOL, this reminds me of a conversation I had with a group which included a French person who upon hearing the same line as above said "how many piece would you want?"
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Post by qdtjni on Jan 18, 2017 21:38:09 GMT -5
I will like to have peace in the Middle East too. LOL, this reminds me of a conversation I had with a group which included a French person who upon hearing the same line as above said "how many piece would you want?" On that theme...
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Post by Jim on Jan 18, 2017 22:42:48 GMT -5
GreetingS I have a suggestion to Dan or the engineers. Looking at the competing brand Storm Audio with 32 channels capability, why not either increase the RU height by 2 or 3 RU(s) and add 16 more channels or create a companion unit RMC-2 to compete with the Storm Audio and any other brands that might come up with 32 channels. At the moment, I already have 22 channels mapped out for my new system. In fact , after 2016 Thanksgiving, I purchased from Crutchfield, a pair of Sanus CFR2136 racks and some custom retracting shelves to have two Amps and a good SSP. If Dan and the engineers can have two models with maybe xlr with db25 options, will be appreciated. Thanks. George. A couple of your comments caught my interest. The number of channels (32 or so) is in Trinnov Altitude 32 territory (AL32-1632 is $29,000) Ports like DB-25 are in the realm of Datasat RS-20i ($19,000) and some commercial decoders. The biggest reason why they use DB-25 is because it pairs nicely with their own amp (RA7300....7 channels...$13,995) that has a DB-25 input. Proprietary... I love lots of channels - and I see the interest of other connector types.... but that's not going to end up in the RMC-1. And I think the RMC-1 is very much in the integrator/installer market in terms of feature set and expected performance. The Achilles heel for installers is that it's Internet direct. Retail channels are a big deal for that industry.
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Post by Jim on Jan 18, 2017 22:51:31 GMT -5
Mostly off topic, but the Datasat RS7300 is 7ch * 300W for $13995.
The XPA-Gen 3 is 7ch * 200W for under $2k. (I think? Can't hit website to verify price right now)
Just an interesting observation.
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Post by Dan Laufman on Jan 18, 2017 23:41:30 GMT -5
The Datasat amplifier is made by ATI.
You could buy a lot of gear for $14k...
That's my interesting observation! 😁
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Post by Dan Laufman on Jan 18, 2017 23:49:14 GMT -5
GreetingS New here, first time posting: I am coming from Pioneer Elite SC-09, one of the early adopters in 2008. I sold it because it did not have the ability to switch 3D, so it became obsolete. I have been without an AVR for almost 4 years. Now I am very excited about the RMC-1. I have a suggestion to Dan or the engineers. Looking at the competing brand Storm Audio with 32 channels capability, why not either increase the RU height by 2 or 3 RU(s) and add 16 more channels or create a companion unit RMC-2 to compete with the Storm Audio and any other brands that might come up with 32 channels. At the moment, I already have 22 channels mapped out for my new system. In fact , after 2016 Thanksgiving, I purchased from Crutchfield, a pair of Sanus CFR2136 racks and some custom retracting shelves to have two Amps and a good SSP. I will like to have my SSP to be future proof, NOT to experience the sudden death of my $6000.00 Pioneer Elite SC-09. If Dan and the engineers can have two models with maybe xlr with db25 options, will be appreciated. We also need other codecs like Auro 3D, etc, chrome cast built in, 3D switching. I plan on getting two amps, was looking at the Yamaha 5000 models, but if Emotiva can make the 14 or 11 channels affordable, I might get the Trio from Dan. Keep up the good work. I am impressed by your engineering endeavors. You may get my $$, all things being equal. Thanks. George. There is absolutely no reason we can't expand the core platform to accommodate 32 channels... this has been discussed at length internally. Frankly, we need to see if there is a large enough demand to warrant the effort. Also, we've got to get the current models done! Meeting with the Auro guys in Franklin a couple of weeks... fingers crossed! It's going be pretty exciting over the next year or so... 😁
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Post by Dan Laufman on Jan 18, 2017 23:51:36 GMT -5
Also, why would you ever build in Chromcast? Bad idea. It changes every year...
That's what your HDMI ports are for!! 👍
S%*#! They change every year too!!! 😜
Oh well, you get the idea...
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Post by Erwin.BE on Jan 19, 2017 6:24:50 GMT -5
Interesting about the 32 channels. I would be interested in 2 more outputs to have 9.x.6. But I would not pay something like 10K for it.
One might consider internal active crossovers but I am not sure enough people want this to make it worthwhile to have return on investment?
Anyway: bring on the RMC-1!
BTW: StormAudio is a brand of the Auro Technologies' Home Entertainment and Luxury Audio Product Division.
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Post by rbk123 on Jan 19, 2017 9:42:46 GMT -5
A suggestion had occurred to me last night that Emo should consider. No doubt this has been brought up before, if nothing else as in jest, but I think it would save a lot of time and initial rollout pain:
- After reading the initial thoughts/user interface items/design vs. possible bugs for those who have received their MC700's already, why not give some of the hardcore users in the Lounge beta versions of the RMC to test? And no, not me - I don't have either 4k or balanced anything, etc.. in my environment to be a valuable tester. There are a handful of guys here that are both hardcore and have diverse gear compared to what Emo could test back at HQ. They could weigh in on the UI as well as how it performs with their gear; 2 sides of the processor coin. Sign them to a tight non-disclosure and I'm sure they would be sufficiently honor-bound to keep mum anyways. It would be a labor of love for them, no doubt, and win-win for both sides.
The items they'd catch during testing would be no different than the items they would identify, post about, and request fixes for when they catch them if they're only involved after the official launch.
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Post by Hair Nick on Jan 19, 2017 9:52:50 GMT -5
I believe in the past that moderators have been given units to beta as well as us here.
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Post by rbk123 on Jan 19, 2017 9:59:49 GMT -5
Might want to expand that to a few more. Some of the non-moderators have much more diverse gear and are arguably more experienced/have different perspectives.
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Post by mgbpuff on Jan 19, 2017 10:47:21 GMT -5
GreetingS New here, first time posting: I am coming from Pioneer Elite SC-09, one of the early adopters in 2008. I sold it because it did not have the ability to switch 3D, so it became obsolete. I have been without an AVR for almost 4 years. Now I am very excited about the RMC-1. I have a suggestion to Dan or the engineers. Looking at the competing brand Storm Audio with 32 channels capability, why not either increase the RU height by 2 or 3 RU(s) and add 16 more channels or create a companion unit RMC-2 to compete with the Storm Audio and any other brands that might come up with 32 channels. At the moment, I already have 22 channels mapped out for my new system. In fact , after 2016 Thanksgiving, I purchased from Crutchfield, a pair of Sanus CFR2136 racks and some custom retracting shelves to have two Amps and a good SSP. I will like to have my SSP to be future proof, NOT to experience the sudden death of my $6000.00 Pioneer Elite SC-09. If Dan and the engineers can have two models with maybe xlr with db25 options, will be appreciated. We also need other codecs like Auro 3D, etc, chrome cast built in, 3D switching. I plan on getting two amps, was looking at the Yamaha 5000 models, but if Emotiva can make the 14 or 11 channels affordable, I might get the Trio from Dan. Keep up the good work. I am impressed by your engineering endeavors. You may get my $$, all things being equal. Thanks. George. There is absolutely no reason we can't expand the core platform to accommodate 32 channels... this has been discussed at length internally. Frankly, we need to see if there is a large enough demand to warrant the effort. Also, we've got to get the current models done! Meeting with the Auro guys in Franklin a couple of weeks... fingers crossed! It's going be pretty exciting over the next year or so... 😁 Please, Auro is never going to make it big in the U.S.! You're wasting your time!
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 19, 2017 11:06:52 GMT -5
Please, Auro is never going to make it big in the U.S.! You're wasting your time! Perhaps you should remember that Emotiva does do business outside the U.S. We are not the only people on the planet buying home theater processors. And there are many who will argue that Auro is superior, especially for the "non-perfect" home environment. If it doesn't cost a ton to implement and license, why not. Edit: And I certainly applaud Emotiva for giving it a shot and investigating all the possibilities.
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Post by mgbpuff on Jan 19, 2017 11:37:09 GMT -5
Please, Auro is never going to make it big in the U.S.! You're wasting your time! Perhaps you should remember that Emotiva does do business outside the U.S. We are not the only people on the planet buying home theater processors. And there are many who will argue that Auro is superior, especially for the "non-perfect" home environment. If it doesn't cost a ton to implement and license, why not. Edit: And I certainly applaud Emotiva for giving it a shot and investigating all the possibilities. I understand all that, Auro should be talking to Hollywood and the major movie studios to make it relevant, not Emotiva! And as far as Emotiva is concerned, if Auro comes as a freebee alternative in DSP's with absolutely no addition investment in resources, then absolutely incorporate it for our Euro source material deficient friends.
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Post by Erwin.BE on Jan 19, 2017 13:14:00 GMT -5
After thinking about it some more, the thought of 32 channels with internal crossovers appeals to me more and more... That's how these things work. Create demand where there was none before, LOL! 9 - 11 ear level channels 4 subs 6 - 8 overheads crossovers... a miniDSP 4x10HD is said to be to noisy with high efficient HF drivers and you can only steer 1 pair of speakers with it. So I need 2 for LSR @ $500 each. Or $333 for each front speaker... The RMC-1 is 5K for 16ch which is $312.50 per output channel. $10K might be stretching but maybe not so much. GreetingS New here, first time posting: I am coming from Pioneer Elite SC-09, one of the early adopters in 2008. I sold it because it did not have the ability to switch 3D, so it became obsolete. I have been without an AVR for almost 4 years. Now I am very excited about the RMC-1. I have a suggestion to Dan or the engineers. Looking at the competing brand Storm Audio with 32 channels capability, why not either increase the RU height by 2 or 3 RU(s) and add 16 more channels or create a companion unit RMC-2 to compete with the Storm Audio and any other brands that might come up with 32 channels. At the moment, I already have 22 channels mapped out for my new system. In fact , after 2016 Thanksgiving, I purchased from Crutchfield, a pair of Sanus CFR2136 racks and some custom retracting shelves to have two Amps and a good SSP. I will like to have my SSP to be future proof, NOT to experience the sudden death of my $6000.00 Pioneer Elite SC-09. If Dan and the engineers can have two models with maybe xlr with db25 options, will be appreciated. We also need other codecs like Auro 3D, etc, chrome cast built in, 3D switching. I plan on getting two amps, was looking at the Yamaha 5000 models, but if Emotiva can make the 14 or 11 channels affordable, I might get the Trio from Dan. Keep up the good work. I am impressed by your engineering endeavors. You may get my $$, all things being equal. Thanks. George. There is absolutely no reason we can't expand the core platform to accommodate 32 channels... this has been discussed at length internally. Frankly, we need to see if there is a large enough demand to warrant the effort. Also, we've got to get the current models done! Meeting with the Auro guys in Franklin a couple of weeks... fingers crossed! It's going be pretty exciting over the next year or so... 😁
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Post by Casey Leedom on Jan 19, 2017 13:22:32 GMT -5
Wow. Some of you guys must have some truly awesome Listening Rooms/Home Theaters. I just have my Living Room (~14' x ~16' x 8') to work with. And given that I've lived here 23 years, it doesn't seem likely that I'll move any time soon. 5.1 seems to be the limit for me!
Casey
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