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Post by cwt on Sept 7, 2017 5:48:43 GMT -5
I was intrigued as to what exactly this quote from Lonnie as transcribed by Mark meant  Could it be a reference to speaker xyz remapping rather than set speaker positioning ? Sounds impressive whatever occurs  |
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Post by klinemj on Sept 7, 2017 8:09:28 GMT -5
I was intrigued as to what exactly this quote from Lonnie as transcribed by Mark meant Could it be a reference to speaker xyz remapping rather than set speaker positioning ? Sounds impressive whatever occurs The simplest explanation I can provide is that he said, in essence, due to older chips being slower, they are faking object oriented nature of Atmos relative to what happens in the theater version. The new chips are fast enough that they can really do it. Mark |
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Post by lrobertson on Sept 7, 2017 9:50:55 GMT -5
I don't mean to beat a dead horse but it sounds like they are confident their chip will do 9.1.6 Atmos decoding with ease. Could this imply channel expansion bays are at all possible to render more layout options? I don't plan on wanting any of the optional bays that have so far been mentioned but I sure like the idea of future options. I really appreciate the time you took to get all this info out to us. Thanks Mark
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Post by jcz06 on Sept 7, 2017 10:18:29 GMT -5
I don't mean to beat a dead horse but it sounds like they are confident their chip will do 9.1.6 Atmos decoding with ease. Could this imply channel expansion bays are at all possible to render more layout options? I don't plan on wanting any of the optional bays that have so far been mentioned but I sure like the idea of future options. I really appreciate the time you took to get all this info out to us. Thanks Mark yes they did confirm it will do 9.1.6... |
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Post by lrobertson on Sept 7, 2017 11:33:18 GMT -5
We all know that. From what I read of Mark's notes it didn't sound like the chip set was being maxed out at 9.1.6. Maybe that's my wishful thinking. I'm just curious if anyone asked if it was capable of more or even if there was mentioned a limitation to what the expansion bays could incorporate. Big Dan mentioned these modular systems were all designed to adapt to the next it thing. With the direction things are headed if this is going to be the system that will never have to be replaced as that suggests it would be cool to incorporate more speakers if I want to splurge on a upgrade later on. The details on this whole system makes you wonder what there could possibly be for an upgrade to justify the development of an RMC-2. An RMC-2 that can have all channels assigned as well as be interlinked with the RMC-1 so the fixed channels and all that premium hardware can still be utilized with an expansion bay interlink would be pretty slick. I'm just curious where their heads are at for RMC's future.
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Post by cwt on Sept 7, 2017 13:17:44 GMT -5
The simplest explanation I can provide is that he said, in essence, due to older chips being slower, they are faking object oriented nature of Atmos relative to what happens in the theater version. The new chips are fast enough that they can really do it. Mark[/quote] Sounds maybe like the objects are more precisely placed as the metadata is read by the sharc chips more efficiently with their higher processing power ; thanks Mark |
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Post by klinemj on Sept 7, 2017 15:09:33 GMT -5
We all know that. From what I read of Mark's notes it didn't sound like the chip set was being maxed out at 9.1.6. Maybe that's my wishful thinking. I'm just curious if anyone asked if it was capable of more or even if there was mentioned a limitation to what the expansion bays could incorporate. Big Dan mentioned these modular systems were all designed to adapt to the next it thing. With the direction things are headed if this is going to be the system that will never have to be replaced as that suggests it would be cool to incorporate more speakers if I want to splurge on a upgrade later on. The details on this whole system makes you wonder what there could possibly be for an upgrade to justify the development of an RMC-2. An RMC-2 that can have all channels assigned as well as be interlinked with the RMC-1 so the fixed channels and all that premium hardware can still be utilized with an expansion bay interlink would be pretty slick. I'm just curious where their heads are at for RMC's future. I didn't ask if an expansion bay could add more channels, and they didn't offer that as something they were considering. They did say that they'd listen to what customers wanted in expansion bays and see what they could do about ones that would have enough appeal to provide a market for it. So - it's worth making your voice heard if that's something you would like. Mark |
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Post by cwt on Sept 8, 2017 6:03:46 GMT -5
I didn't ask if an expansion bay could add more channels, and they didn't offer that as something they were considering. They did say that they'd listen to what customers wanted in expansion bays and see what they could do about ones that would have enough appeal to provide a market for it. So - it's worth making your voice heard if that's something you would like. Mark I think an additional balanced output card would be more popular than most considering the news the RMC1 has 2 of the griffin lites Mark [ dependent on dolby licensing more than 13 channels of course]. If not something similar to what Storm audio and others are doing[matrixing] as they don't have the latest chips ; though not true discrete this may satisfy using all speakers when switching different decoders like auro 3d .. I could live with dirac @ 96hz rather than 192 and extra speakers would only assist unison if its licensed  If auro 3d is a goer ? And if people have big home theaters presumably.. from Cedia ; |
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Post by bradford on Sept 8, 2017 13:52:49 GMT -5
The simplest explanation I can provide is that he said, in essence, due to older chips being slower, they are faking object oriented nature of Atmos relative to what happens in the theater version. The new chips are fast enough that they can really do it. Mark Sounds maybe like the objects are more precisely placed as the metadata is read by the sharc chips more efficiently with their higher processing power ; thanks Mark [/quote] |
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Post by bradford on Sept 8, 2017 13:56:49 GMT -5
This has to do with the number of objects the renderer can process. The old chips could only handle a couple of objects in addition to the bed channels. When I talked to them on Thursday they were not sure if they could handle all 32 objects in the home spec, but said it was an order of magnitude more than current DSP implementations.
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Post by Bonzo on Sept 8, 2017 16:21:05 GMT -5
I can see it now, just like with 3D. Movie makers will be filming movies coming up with stupid shots JUST to see how many objects they can have flying around. When a window explodes every piece of glass will be an audible object.   |
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Post by klinemj on Sept 8, 2017 16:50:11 GMT -5
I can see it now, just like with 3D. Movie makers will be filming movies coming up with stupid shots JUST to see how many objects they can have flying around. When a window explodes every piece of glass will be an audible object. The demo at Emofest almost felt like that! Mark |
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Post by jcz06 on Sept 10, 2017 11:17:48 GMT -5
It's a bit comical watching the guys over at AVS forum comparing a $5k processor to a $15k or $20k processor.....meanwhile the RMC will deliver a value with amazing sonic results...
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Post by cwt on Sept 10, 2017 13:40:13 GMT -5
It's a bit comical watching the guys over at AVS forum comparing a $5k processor to a $15k or $20k processor.....meanwhile the RMC will deliver a value with amazing sonic results... Yes I would have some buyers remorse big time with some of these pre pro's The Lyngdorf mp50 looks like it cant handle UHD 60HZ and isnt 18gbps hdmi. Upgrade still to come... |
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Post by LCSeminole on Sept 11, 2017 16:47:43 GMT -5
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Post by petew on Sept 11, 2017 17:11:49 GMT -5
The Emotiva haters are out in force on that thread. Sheesh, give it a rest...
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Post by tslack on Sept 11, 2017 17:37:03 GMT -5
Seems to be mostly nitpicking and buyer’s remorse.
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Post by LCSeminole on Sept 11, 2017 17:42:26 GMT -5
Seems to be mostly nitpicking and buyer’s remorse. I would tend to agree. |
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Post by mgbpuff on Sept 11, 2017 17:47:39 GMT -5
The Emotiva haters are out in force on that thread. Sheesh, give it a rest... Yes they are snipping away and making assumptions about the new ADI chips that nobody but Emotiva has right now and they are saying even the old chips could have done 9.1.6 because the limitation is software not hardware. They don't know any such thing. |
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Post by Jim on Sept 11, 2017 18:00:27 GMT -5
The Emotiva haters are out in force on that thread. Sheesh, give it a rest... Yes they are snipping away and making assumptions about the new ADI chips that nobody but Emotiva has right now and they are saying even the old chips could have done 9.1.6 because the limitation is software not hardware. They don't know any such thing. Given how old the chipsets are that are in common use.... that seems silly to claim the limitation is software! If it was software, other manufacturers would have worked to get new code already. Hmmmm. Silly people. |
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