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Post by lrobertson on Sept 11, 2017 18:11:25 GMT -5
I'm not sure how accurate that article was but it suggests Dirac will be 192kHx. I'm anxious to hear officially what it will be supporting and if Unison is in the works.
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Post by mgbpuff on Sept 11, 2017 19:46:35 GMT -5
A contributor over at that other forum said:
"Some other details the came out for those that came to the local show...Part of the reason why the RMC-1 has taken so long to get to market is that Dan Laufman decided that he couldn't rely on outside vendors to provide the boards for doing Atmos and DTS:X which is what nearly everyone else does. The needs of their customers don't exactly match those of the large vendors (D&M/Onkyo/Yamaha) who can get away with 2 or 4 speakers in the ceiling and nothing else. And they were never first in line to get any of these sound standards to market.
So they spend the last year developing their own object renderer in house using a new DSP with about 3-4 times the processing power of what everyone else is using. The result is that they will have the flexibility to use this new engine not only in the RMC-1 but also other lesser products, with much faster time to market. And it's possible Emotiva could license their work to others. The prototype RMC-1 that was on display looked clean and nearly finished....three boards in the box and a lot of air."
I don't think that is true. Lonnie said they are waiting for Dirac and ADI to complete the software. I think the holdup is software by the suppliers, not Emo. But what do I know?j
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Post by Dan Laufman on Sept 11, 2017 21:58:28 GMT -5
I'm very happy to see all of the conversation that is taking place here, and on other forums related to the RMC-1. I'll just point out that a few years ago, many people said that the XMC-1 would not be made, but we all know they were wrong. It's been incredibly successful and will continue to be supported and enhanced. We showed the RMC-1 at CES in January of this year and many people believed it was vaporware. Well, we've shown everyone quite publicly that it is VERY real. The RMC-1 is an incredibly powerful and beautiful sounding reference cinema processor. In the near future we will be able to show it to a larger audience and I am quite certain that it will become the standard by which others are measured. Those of you that have seen it and heard it know this is true. I was very gratified to see so many other companies coming by the check out the RMC-1 at CEDIA.  Clearly, we impressed more than a few people. I'm so proud of our company, our team, and our loyal and faithful Emotiva family! It won't be long now... Cheers, Big Dan |
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Post by novisnick on Sept 11, 2017 22:01:24 GMT -5
I'm very happy to see all of the conversation that is taking place here, and on other forums related to the RMC-1. I'll just point out that a few years ago, many people said that the XMC-1 would not be made, but we all know they were wrong. It's been incredibly successful and will continue to be supported and enhanced. We showed the RMC-1 at CES in January of this year and many people believed it was vaporware. Well, we've shown everyone quite publicly that it is VERY real. The RMC-1 is an incredibly powerful and beautiful sounding reference cinema processor. In the near future we will be able to show it to a larger audience and I am quite certain that it will become the standard by which others are measured. Those of you that have seen it and heard it know this is true. I was very gratified to see so many other companies coming by the check out the RMC-1 at CEDIA. Clearly, we impressed more than a few people. I'm so proud of our company, our team, and our loyal and faithful Emotiva family! It won't be long now... Cheers, Big Dan |
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Post by brians7 on Sept 11, 2017 22:53:34 GMT -5
Do you think the RMC-1 will support front wides? I am hopping that I can re-purpose my front and rear heights. Thanks Brian
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 11, 2017 23:13:35 GMT -5
Do you think the RMC-1 will support front wides? I am hopping that I can re-purpose my front and rear heights. Thanks Brian Supporting 9.x.x would mean yes to me. |
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Post by cwmcobra on Sept 12, 2017 7:04:53 GMT -5
Congrats to the Emotiva team for (finally) garnering a win from AVS! And what I found additionally interesting was this snippet about the height speakers used in the demo: Intriguingly, Emotiva created custom height speakers with a quad-ribbon design (each at a 90-degree angle from the other, for 360 coverage) plus a 5″ woofer. But, this is not a product, so no price and no specs, sorry.Could this be the design of the future for Emotiva heights? I don't remember reading about these in Mark's Emofest notes, so not sure if these were used in the demo in Franklin or not. But I'm excited to hear what "the rest of the story" will be regarding a full line of new Emotiva speakers, especially the elusive heights. Bring 'em on, Big Dan! |
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Post by mgbpuff on Sept 12, 2017 7:41:49 GMT -5
I'm positive on Emotiva, I will buy the RMC-1 as soon as it is released. I've got a 7.2.4 Atmos installation now and I have two more matching ceiling speakers to add for 7.2.6. Itching to expand! Dan Laufman, you are my hero (so far)!
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Post by Dan Laufman on Sept 12, 2017 9:37:38 GMT -5
Congrats to the Emotiva team for (finally) garnering a win from AVS! And what I found additionally interesting was this snippet about the height speakers used in the demo: Intriguingly, Emotiva created custom height speakers with a quad-ribbon design (each at a 90-degree angle from the other, for 360 coverage) plus a 5″ woofer. But, this is not a product, so no price and no specs, sorry.Could this be the design of the future for Emotiva heights? I don't remember reading about these in Mark's Emofest notes, so not sure if these were used in the demo in Franklin or not. But I'm excited to hear what "the rest of the story" will be regarding a full line of new Emotiva speakers, especially the elusive heights. Bring 'em on, Big Dan! Well, we designed these little ceiling modules after the quad Airmotiv E1 arrays we built for the Axpona/Emofest system. In that big system, we made special brackets that hold four of the E1's in an angled array to give us 360 degree coverage in the seating area. They worked so well in the big system we came up with a baby version for CEDIA. This consisted of the woofer from the B1 firing down with 4 AMT's in a 360 degree angled array. They sounded great, as has been noted by Mark H. at AVS and others. One of the big drawbacks I noticed in many of the systems I listened to at CEDIA is that the ceiling channels were too easily localized, especially in the low ceiling of the sound rooms. The arrays offer a more diffused sound field that IMO delivers a more believable and subtle "height" experience. It gets rid of a lot of the "ping pong" effect I hear all too often. This might become a "real" product based on our experience and the feedback we've received. Cheers, Big Dan |
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Post by audiogeek on Sept 12, 2017 10:02:37 GMT -5
Dan... those arrays at Emofest worked really well. I could not localize any of them.
Sounds like you wowed the crowd at CEDIA!
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Post by lrobertson on Sept 12, 2017 10:18:50 GMT -5
Dan... those arrays at Emofest worked really well. I could not localize any of them. Sounds like you wowed the crowd at CEDIA! I thought with the new codecs you wanted the localization. It would be nice to hear how they went about choosing to go this route or if it's main benefit is in larger rooms where a monopole would have limited effect on anything but the main lp. I always wondered if a bipole being in-phase or something like what they developed here would have a better effect. All I've read is don't use dipoles. |
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Post by audiogeek on Sept 12, 2017 10:27:12 GMT -5
Dan... those arrays at Emofest worked really well. I could not localize any of them. Sounds like you wowed the crowd at CEDIA! I thought with the new codecs you wanted the localization. It would be nice to hear how they went about choosing to go this route or if it's main benefit is in larger rooms where a monopole would have limited effect on anything but the main lp. I always wondered if a bipole being in-phase or something like what they developed here would have a better effect. All I've read is don't use dipoles. What I meant was that I did not hear a speaker, I heard an effect moving above/around me. I think you still want direct radiating speakers but this array method seems to give you the best of both worlds so to speak. |
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Post by mgbpuff on Sept 12, 2017 11:45:13 GMT -5
Actually I think that Atmos top speakers will work better and as they should work with a direct rather than a diffuse sound. The same thing was true for surround speakers when we went from Dolby Pro Logic to Dolby Digital.
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Post by rhale64 on Sept 12, 2017 13:40:41 GMT -5
I am hoping to have one of these for Christmas. I know it is quarter 1 2018. But my dream is end of quarter 4 2017. I have FAITH in Emotiva. I am definitely not a fanboy. I saw and read about the fall and rise of the Xmc1. But I have seen where Emotiva has learned. At first I wondered why not use the new AKM dacs but then I realized that they would have to change more than just the dacs. That takes time. More setbacks so to speak. Then it starts to get delayed longer. So leave it as is. Perfect the software. And when this comes out it will be a game changer.
Keep up the good work, Emotiva. Keep the Faith and carry on. I am ready for my next processor.
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Post by Erwin.BE on Sept 12, 2017 15:36:04 GMT -5
I have been away from The Lounge for a period, but now the Summer has ended and the AV season started, it's great to hear about the progress on the RMC-1!
Do I understand correctly that a single subwoofer output can be combined with 15 (!!!) main channels? Surely, before it was "only" 13.3 (3 subs and 13 satellites)? My unfinished set-up is 9.4.2 with optional 3rd subwoofer (with wides), but I still wonder.
Patiently awaiting the RMC-1 wit Unison.
(Unison is beyond reasonable doubt the end of the room correction war)
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Post by Jim on Sept 12, 2017 16:45:21 GMT -5
It sounds like the RMC-1 has a lot of potential to keep Rory very very busy with additional speaker designs!
Heh
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 12, 2017 16:50:40 GMT -5
Do I understand correctly that a single subwoofer output can be combined with 15 (!!!) main channels? Surely, before it was "only" 13.3 (3 subs and 13 satellites)? My unfinished set-up is 9.4.2 with optional 3rd subwoofer (with wides), but I still wonder. Yes, Dan announced this a few pages back right before EmoFest Hi kids, You can re-assign the L & R subs to surround duty. Also, the RMC-1 now supports 9.1.6!! Cheers, Big Dan |
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Post by brians7 on Sept 12, 2017 22:00:31 GMT -5
Do I understand correctly that a single subwoofer output can be combined with 15 (!!!) main channels? Surely, before it was "only" 13.3 (3 subs and 13 satellites)? My unfinished set-up is 9.4.2 with optional 3rd subwoofer (with wides), but I still wonder. Yes, Dan announced this a few pages back right before EmoFest Hi kids, You can re-assign the L & R subs to surround duty. Also, the RMC-1 now supports 9.1.6!! Cheers, Big Dan Now that is what I wanted to here. I have 13 speakers and 2 subs all waiting for the RMC-1 and to be able to use them in there current location is what makes Big Dan the Best |
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Post by Erwin.BE on Sept 13, 2017 1:38:13 GMT -5
Sweet! Depending on Unison (which uses each speaker to deal with sonic issues caused by any other speaker in the system, so not sure how this will relate to multiple subs) I might try to add a Front Height pair at some point in a 9.1.6 configuration.
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Post by pknaz on Sept 13, 2017 13:21:37 GMT -5
Ideally, one of the add-on modules would be for additional sub-woofer outputs that can be controlled by Unison. I think 9.4.6 is a baseline to strive for, and 11.4.6 or 11.6.6 would be a stretch goal. I'd even be perfectly happy of they were simply single ended and not balanced. I'm not sure how well a single sub channel with 4+ subs controlled with something like a MinDSP would work with Unison. I think it would be better if there was a single processor controlling all of the DSP.
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