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Post by musicfan on May 1, 2018 9:09:28 GMT -5
As soon as there is another company developing a 16 channel modularly upgradable system with 3 expansion bays I may be swayed by which one is more involved with people like us but in all honesty this is already the most hands on company I’ve ever seen in this industry. I feel like they listen to our concerns and what we are looking for as consumers and I’ve always appreciated them chiming in giving us what they can. I’d rather them keep their nose to the grindstone and get this out to us sooner rather than taking the time to keep us updated at every turn. There’s already products that can get us almost to the RMC-1’s starting point but none that have the same outlook over the long haul. If patience is what’s required it’s no big deal. Buy once, cry once. I agree. I’d rather they work on it as well. But don’t come on here and make claims of updates and releases when you have no ability to keep those promises. It’s a let down over and over |
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Post by lrobertson on May 1, 2018 9:18:39 GMT -5
I get it and I bet they do have the ability. They probably just realized the overhead and pita factor when dealing with unintended set backs. No one should say things they don’t plan on upholding but at the same time at least they tried and I can’t defend or attack it because I don’t remember in what context that was all pledged. If they said they will do what they can now to ... fill in the blank.. I wouldn’t call it breaking a promise when they choose not to if it isn’t all smooth sailing.
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Post by rbk123 on May 1, 2018 9:54:32 GMT -5
I get it and I bet they do have the ability. They probably just realized the overhead and pita factor when dealing with unintended set backs. No one should say things they don’t plan on upholding but at the same time at least they tried and I can’t defend or attack it because I don’t remember in what context that was all pledged. If they said they will do what they can now to ... fill in the blank.. I wouldn’t call it breaking a promise when they choose not to if it isn’t all smooth sailing. Very true for many of the promises, and in that case communicate that you can no longer keep the commitment and the reasons why. Simple project management communications 101. Yes, you'll take your lumps but it's a commitment made so own it; the lumps are always worse when you just go dark and don't keep it. On this board, there is a fair bit of beating they are taking, but it's much worse outside of this haven. For other items like the "weekly update" promise, the context/complexity argument doesn't really hold. |
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Post by davidl81 on May 1, 2018 10:16:47 GMT -5
I am okay with delays, as it seems like in the RMC-1 case that it is the chip supplier causing the delay not Emo themselves. One thing they did mess up on was when big Dan said they would make weekly updates then went radio silence. When I heard him make that statement I thought, hmm that's going to be tough to do.
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Post by lrobertson on May 1, 2018 10:17:56 GMT -5
I guess I just see it as if it’s simple and easy to do they’d be doing it and if it takes up a lot of people’s time for their public relations people to gather the details we are asking for from all their employees taking them off of production for even an hour. These are all hours that we are expected to pay for in the end so yeah it would be nice to stick with what’s said but please don’t add production costs so we can know everything. I want this coming in as reasonably priced as possible. If the project is stalled in something I don’t care to know the technical aspects of the stall and not all things can be relayed I’m sure with proprietary systems.
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Post by musicfan on May 1, 2018 10:57:50 GMT -5
an hour?!?! it takes minutes....hell i even say seconds to type a post. KeithL writes novels....in tons of replies...so dont tell me they cant just popin with a promised weekly update.
it amazes me how they cant see how this costs them lots of customers....and why they continue (even though their products are stellar for the most part...although bang for buck has gone down..but thats another convo) to be the laughing stock of ID HT companies...
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Post by Bonzo on May 1, 2018 11:03:10 GMT -5
I agree. I’d rather they work on it as well. But don’t come on here and make claims of updates and releases when you have no ability to keep those promises. It’s a let down over and over I made this post over on another thread. It's straight up undeniable proof of what we are discussing. emotivalounge.proboards.com/post/940668/threadTo which the answer comes across like Keith was "sent in" to "fix things" quietly. I have come to take anything they say anymore with a grain of salt. A complete wait and see attitude. I now know with great certainty that their timing dates are generally invalid. I can live with it all now that I know that's how it is. Just making it part of my decision making process from now on. Sad but true. |
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Post by lrobertson on May 1, 2018 11:13:53 GMT -5
It really is what it is and I don’t want to aggravate myself wishing it was different. I still don’t see how it would be better to be like 99% of the other companies where there really isn’t an interaction.
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Post by rbk123 on May 1, 2018 11:24:50 GMT -5
Not sure why continue doing the communication mess as is or do like 99% of the other companies are the only 2 options.
Bonzo's approach is really what 90% of the board has resigned themselves to, but with semi-regular complaining.
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Post by lrobertson on May 1, 2018 11:28:50 GMT -5
Just got to take the bad with the good. What they are doing is overly ambitious so that I can see how that trait can pass over in other areas. Beggars can’t be choosers so I’m just in the mindset that as long as what they have said comes to fruition as far as what the RMC-1 will offer it’s not my place to get on their ass about the small stuff.
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Post by creimes on May 1, 2018 11:35:12 GMT -5
$5000 minus my 25% discount = $3750 $3750 US to CAD = $4820 CAD $4820 x 13% tax = $5446.60So at $5500 Canadian funds I at least don't have to worry about delays and such since the RMC-1 is something I will never have the chance to own haha I'm sure it will be an amazing processor though as even the XMC-1 was great in my setup and I'm looking forward to people's thoughts once it's in their systems  Chad |
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Post by Lsc on May 1, 2018 17:01:00 GMT -5
$5000 minus my 25% discount = $3750 $3750 US to CAD = $4820 CAD $4820 x 13% tax = $5446.60So at $5500 Canadian funds I at least don't have to worry about delays and such since the RMC-1 is something I will never have the chance to own haha I'm sure it will be an amazing processor though as even the XMC-1 was great in my setup and I'm looking forward to people's thoughts once it's in their systems Chad And if you aren’t doing 9.1.6 then the XMC-1 gen3 will be more than sufficient. For 2 channel, the sound quality should be identical. But yes, if you have a dedicated theater and are going all out, the RMC-1 sounds amazing. |
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Post by rbk123 on May 1, 2018 18:30:21 GMT -5
And if you aren’t doing 9.1.6 then the XMC-1 gen3 will be more than sufficient. For 2 channel, the sound quality should be identical. But yes, if you have a dedicated theater and are going all out, the RMC-1 sounds amazing. Never mind do you notice any bugs or quirks with yours, but rather what has surprised/impressed you the most about how it's working for you? |
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Post by Lsc on May 1, 2018 20:35:40 GMT -5
And if you aren’t doing 9.1.6 then the XMC-1 gen3 will be more than sufficient. For 2 channel, the sound quality should be identical. But yes, if you have a dedicated theater and are going all out, the RMC-1 sounds amazing. Never mind do you notice any bugs or quirks with yours, but rather what has surprised/impressed you the most about how it's working for you? I just heard it at Axpona. It was pretty impressive. Also, Lonnie said for 2 channel the sound is the same and I just repeated what he said above. If I ever get salty with Emotiva, instead of the complaining that I see her, I’ll just buy something else. Like I told my buddy who is looking at the Anthem...I’m buying Emotiva 😊...when it comes out. |
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Post by rbk123 on May 1, 2018 21:22:22 GMT -5
I just heard it at Axpona. It was pretty impressive. Also, Lonnie said for 2 channel the sound is the same and I just repeated what he said above. If I ever get salty with Emotiva, instead of the complaining that I see her, I’ll just buy something else. Like I told my buddy who is looking at the Anthem...I’m buying Emotiva 😊...when it comes out. It’s ok, you can trust us.. |
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Post by Lsc on May 1, 2018 22:30:37 GMT -5
I just heard it at Axpona. It was pretty impressive. Also, Lonnie said for 2 channel the sound is the same and I just repeated what he said above. If I ever get salty with Emotiva, instead of the complaining that I see her, I’ll just buy something else. Like I told my buddy who is looking at the Anthem...I’m buying Emotiva 😊...when it comes out. It’s ok, you can trust us.. Ok weirdo |
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Post by rbk123 on May 2, 2018 8:07:23 GMT -5
I must say that is not a name that gets used much these days. Old school good times. |
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Post by pknaz on May 2, 2018 8:38:35 GMT -5
I get called, and call people, weirdo, all the time.....I must be old school |
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Post by 405x5 on May 3, 2018 17:06:39 GMT -5
youtu.be/rTmS09b2SdgAnyone seen this? Here’s a guy with several You Tube videos Dissing the RMC before it’s even released! I know little about this unit....is he factually correct with anything he says? Bill
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Post by hemster on May 3, 2018 17:32:42 GMT -5
youtu.be/rTmS09b2SdgAnyone seen this? Here’s a guy with several You Tube videos Dissing the RMC before it’s even released! I know little about this unit....is he factually correct with what he says? Bill I don't think he's factually correct. He says it's his opinion.
He says he doesn't think it'll come with Dirac. Then he says that it will but Dirac will be limited! Then he says that you'll need "multi-power amplification". He doesn't seem to get that amplification is required for a processor. He says pre-outs are not "quite there on the Denon". "Who needs XLR? Although you get better audio separation"! What? That was not worth the 7 minutes I wasted on that Youtube clip. |
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