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Post by lesliew on Nov 2, 2016 16:10:50 GMT -5
Are all the outputs fixed or can some of them be reasigned? I mean, I see only two pair of heights, but I think I prefer three pairs of heights and skip the wides. I actually wired for both wides and three pairs of heights. +1 for the ability to reassign. I want to use my wides in preference to another pair of heights. Ive got wides installed and have another 2 pairs of heights still in the box but am happy to keep them there until we go to 16 channels.
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Post by brubacca on Nov 2, 2016 16:20:11 GMT -5
Lonnie,
While you are redesigning please add at least one more HDMI ports. 4 seems a little light.
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Post by richardrc on Nov 2, 2016 16:27:58 GMT -5
That is taking it a "little" too far!! How is your house/theater build going haven't seen an update on a while? I spy with my little eye... FYI, I downloaded and printed that picture to save it in my wallet. Whenever I am having a hard time, I can look at it.
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Post by Bonzo on Nov 2, 2016 17:12:50 GMT -5
You guys just joining in should go back to the beginning of this thread and catch up on many things already discussed. And by the way, my version of the RMC-1 back panel is better. And no, I'm not joking this time. (See link) It's better and I don't care what anyone says. See prior posts in this thread for my opinions on why I feel the RMC-1 isn't quite the end all monster that was promised. It's basically X steps forward and Y steps backwards at the same time. Only you can determine whether X or Y is greater for your personal wants and needs. For me Y wins. I'll be waiting for the XMC-1 Gen 3. emotivalounge.proboards.com/post/843872/thread
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Post by Bonzo on Nov 2, 2016 17:15:25 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I see now, those XLR outputs do fit just fine across the back. No problem. With like 1/32" of metal to spare in-between!
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Post by Bonzo on Nov 2, 2016 17:38:30 GMT -5
I just looked at the New BasX A-100 amp. Why does IT have an RCA analog output and the RMC-1 does not? Really?
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Post by jmilton on Nov 2, 2016 17:52:49 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I see now, those XLR outputs do fit just fine across the back. No problem. With like 1/32" of metal to spare in-between! . ...that metal is, of course, titanium.
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Post by LCSeminole on Nov 2, 2016 18:21:41 GMT -5
I just looked at the New BasX A-100 amp. Why does IT have an RCA analog output and the RMC-1 does not? Really? Could the Zone 2 outputs not be used?
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Post by novisnick on Nov 2, 2016 18:52:19 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I see now, those XLR outputs do fit just fine across the back. No problem. With like 1/32" of metal to spare in-between! . ...that metal is, of course, titanium. 👎 Nope! Its unobtainium !!!
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Post by Casey Leedom on Nov 2, 2016 22:44:29 GMT -5
So will there be a new matching Reference Power Amplifier series to go with the RMC-1? :-)
Just joking. I'll probably keep my MPS-1 unless someone can convince me that the XPA Gen3 Amplifiers are better.
But the RMC-1 will be my first upgrade since I bought me DMC-1/MPS-1 a bit over 8 years ago ... I'm hoping that it'll be able to directly handle Ethernet streamed digital music and allow me to skip the obsoleted Logitech Squeeze Touch I'm using.
So have any preliminary specifications been released for the RMC-1?
Casey
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Post by novisnick on Nov 2, 2016 22:53:01 GMT -5
XPR Styling would be over the top!! Just as it should be!!
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 2, 2016 22:56:52 GMT -5
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Post by cwt on Nov 2, 2016 23:13:22 GMT -5
Lonnie, While you are redesigning please add at least one more HDMI ports. 4 seems a little light. No problems ;your looking at the coax spdifs and opticals ; the hdmi's are up the top
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Post by hosko on Nov 3, 2016 4:05:39 GMT -5
I am willing to test anything you want, surely someone with 240v power is needed.
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Post by junchoon on Nov 3, 2016 4:27:23 GMT -5
I am willing to test anything you want, surely someone with 240v power is needed. Pls don't forget climate make a difference too - I am located in Malaysia where it is summer all the times so if Emo needs to test from that angle I am all ready! Cheers, WPS
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Post by junchoon on Nov 3, 2016 4:35:03 GMT -5
That is a bit of a downside is that, I can't do a "cheating" bi-amp of my front three speakers by using both the xlr and rca outputs at the same time like some other pre-pro could. Of course alternatively I can use an xlr y-splitter for that.
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Post by Lonnie on Nov 3, 2016 7:14:45 GMT -5
You guys just joining in should go back to the beginning of this thread and catch up on many things already discussed. And by the way, my version of the RMC-1 back panel is better. And no, I'm not joking this time. (See link) It's better and I don't care what anyone says. See prior posts in this thread for my opinions on why I feel the RMC-1 isn't quite the end all monster that was promised. It's basically X steps forward and Y steps backwards at the same time. Only you can determine whether X or Y is greater for your personal wants and needs. For me Y wins. I'll be waiting for the XMC-1 Gen 3. emotivalounge.proboards.com/post/843872/threadWell Bonzo, as a good friend always says, there is a @$$ for every seat. I'm sure if you built it, someone would buy it. Lonnie
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Post by Lonnie on Nov 3, 2016 7:16:56 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I see now, those XLR outputs do fit just fine across the back. No problem. With like 1/32" of metal to spare in-between! I think you might have forgotten to take into account the mechanical strength of the XLR jacks coupled to an FR4 board. Rear panel strength is not a problem. Lonnie
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Post by mgbpuff on Nov 3, 2016 8:24:10 GMT -5
So, I see 13 channel outputs plus 3 sub outputs, all balanced. There does not appear to be RCA type outputs, at least not a full compliment (maybe 5.1 only). Since there have been no new Atmos processor chips released, the RMC-1 will probably be restricted to the usual 11 maximum Atmos channels. The wide outputs are probably only used if the DTS Neo X codec is selected. Nothing astoundingly new, except that all channels will no doubt have Dirac which would make the product unique at this point of time. Please correct where my assumptions are astray! At least one other manufacturer "Acurus" is claiming a 13 channel processor (7.1.6) shipping soon. And dont forget that mds claims to have a 13.3 channel dev board and we know that Emotiva has used mds decoder boards in other products i.e XMC-1 . I imagine that we will see other manufacturers offering fully fledged 13 channel Atmos/Dts:X decoding in 2017. Good news, if mds has such a board, then perhaps there will be 13 channel Atmos/DTS:X prepro product coming. I hope the RMC-1 is one of those! Thanks for the info.
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Post by Bonzo on Nov 3, 2016 9:03:14 GMT -5
No, it wasn't. I am not referring to variable channel outputs for speakers. On that I can agree with Dan that having both unbalanced RCA and balanced XLR on a processor that's main beneficial attribute above the XMC-1 is having a fully balanced design [basically, and perhaps Dirac Unison (which has not been confirmed to my knowledge) for 3 more channels], is kind of pointless. I only put them both on my drawing for 2 reasons: 1. to make a direct comparison to the XMC-1, which does in fact have them both, and 2. to show that they could in fact fit (at least on the back plate) without having to go to a 12" tall chassis. I'm referring to RCA fixed outputs, also known as record outs, or loop outs, or in the old days, Tape Out. As LCSeminole made note of, perhaps the Zone 2 outputs can be used for this purpose. I know I would prefer a dedicated out, but maybe that's just me. I'm thinking that this decision was made because as it seems as all things have become digital, gone from the masses are people who actually do/make recordings of stuff anymore. Greatest hits / mix CD's anyone? Nope, not anymore. With the digital age has come personal playlists, and with the ability to get "all" so easily, no one shares that kind of thing anymore. But I digress and that's another topic for a different thread. But just so it's out there, I'm not one of these people. Not only do I still make such recordings, but I also record audio from TV & Video Discs relatively often. Because of digital copyright management, analog is required. Overall with this processor I find the choice of inputs / outputs a bit odd. Zero analog record outs (unless you count Zone 2 which I don't), yet we get 2 digital ones (which is very nice, just odd if you compare it to other brands out there). We only get 1 fully balanced 2 ch analog input (on a processor that's all about balanced capability), although Dan seemed to easily like the idea of having 2 inputs (only after someone brought it up here). Then we have, count 'em, 8 digital inputs and 3 RCA analog inputs. I don't know if I've ever seen a processor that has/had 8 digital inputs, at least not specifically that I recall. Even at the height of popularity for that sort of input, exactly what 8 connections would there be? How about balancing it out more, with say 6 digital and 6 analog? Having 8 HDMI is great, but if that's really the future, why not make it 10? And why just 2 HDMI outputs? Having 3 would allow for a wall mounted TV, a roll down projector, and an audio only connection. And does anyone really want or need an FM/AM tuner on a $5000+ processor? I do still listen to the radio on my receiver, but I think anyone paying $5000 on an audiophile processor might be willing to buy an outboard tuner (well, maybe if we had more analog inputs the just a measly 3). And what's up with the physical spacing? I can only assume it has something to do with the internal boards and future upgrading abilities? The XLR's are crammed together like sardines, yet the analog RCA and digital (both RCA and Toslink) inputs are spread apart with more room than I think I've ever seen. I just find it all a bit strange and I'm just talking about it out loud here.
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