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Post by pknaz on Mar 29, 2017 10:51:37 GMT -5
I use 1" open cell foam, works well and is dirt cheap.
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Post by Axis on Mar 29, 2017 11:01:37 GMT -5
Do some research and get some proper speaker stands. A piece of foam is not even close to being proper. This all sounds like stuff I tried as a kid.
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Post by Axis on Mar 29, 2017 11:12:00 GMT -5
I keep trying to tell everyone about IsoAcoustics stands. If you have a pair of desktop speakers you can not get a better stand period. You have to spend the money. Pads like a Subdude will work for your sub but are not even close to the performance you can get from the IsoAcoustics stands on a desktop with speakers.
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Post by Axis on Mar 29, 2017 12:44:26 GMT -5
Let's think about this.
'Newton's third law is: For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. The statement means that in every interaction, there is a pair of forces acting on the two interacting objects. The size of the forces on the first object equals the size of the force on the second object.'
Ok, what is happening with a speaker ? The speaker cone moves back and forth.
Do you want the speaker cabinet to remain in place (not move) while the speaker cone moves back and forth ?
I await your answer. Together we will figure this out.
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Post by Axis on Mar 29, 2017 12:48:55 GMT -5
Does stopping the opposite reaction do anything ?
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Post by Axis on Mar 29, 2017 12:54:34 GMT -5
What would happen in space with no gravity or resistance ?
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Post by bluemeanies on Mar 29, 2017 12:55:19 GMT -5
I keep trying to tell everyone about IsoAcoustics stands. If you have a pair of desktop speakers you can not get a better stand period. You have to spend the money. Pads like a Subdude will work for your sub but are not even close to the performance you can get from the IsoAcoustics stands on a desktop with speakers. Axis it is my consensus that SOME people on this forum rather talk about all the money that saved irrevelate of the consequences it has on their system. Saving a buck is one thing but some people here are out right CHEAP! I wonder how important the quality of listening to music is to some people. |
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Post by novisnick on Mar 29, 2017 12:59:28 GMT -5
Does stopping the opposite reaction do anything ? Has somebody change our physical laws?  |
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Post by Axis on Mar 29, 2017 13:03:20 GMT -5
Does stopping the opposite reaction do anything ? Has somebody change our physical laws? Very good Nick !  No, Newton's third law is alive and well. Newton was smarter than anyone alive right now. Einstein was a little smarter and for the most part physics has not really changed since those two dudes inhabited the planet. |
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Post by monkumonku on Mar 29, 2017 13:04:40 GMT -5
Does stopping the opposite reaction do anything ? Has somebody change our physical laws? That's a dumb question. Audioquest and various other audio manufacturers do that all the time. |
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Post by Axis on Mar 29, 2017 13:08:12 GMT -5
Has somebody change our physical laws? That's a dumb question. Audioquest and various other audio manufacturers do that all the time. Stop it !  Let's get serious. |
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Post by Axis on Mar 29, 2017 13:19:46 GMT -5
What would be better ?
Preventing the speaker enclosure from moving ?
Allow the speaker enclosure to move back and forth in opposite reaction to the speaker driver ?
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Post by novisnick on Mar 29, 2017 13:20:34 GMT -5
Has somebody change our physical laws? That's a dumb question. Audioquest and various other audio manufacturers do that all the time. I'd like to amend my question and add to it; AGAIN?  |
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Post by monkumonku on Mar 29, 2017 13:21:15 GMT -5
That's a dumb question. Audioquest and various other audio manufacturers do that all the time. Stop it ! Let's get serious. I was being serious. All you gotta do is read their literature and/or patent descriptions to arrive at that conclusion. Or look at MQA. (oops... there goes another brawl) But you are right - the laws of physics are the laws of physics. |
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Post by monkumonku on Mar 29, 2017 13:22:33 GMT -5
That's a dumb question. Audioquest and various other audio manufacturers do that all the time. I'd like to amend my question and add to it; AGAIN? Next they will tell you that they have custom-made quarks that achieve their stunning results. |
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Post by leonski on Mar 29, 2017 13:56:31 GMT -5
Very good Nick ! No, Newton's third law is alive and well. Newton was smarter than anyone alive right now. Einstein was a little smarter and for the most part physics has not really changed since those two dudes inhabited the planet. I'd love to know who is/was really smarter? Newton? Einstein? Tesla? Hawking? Newtonian Physics reached a limit. Relativity took care of many of the problems. It seems we are in the midst of a 3rd revolution with a yet-better description of 'reality'. Sure, in your listening room, Newton Rules. It's really tough to beat a speaker 'spiked' to a concrete slab and made with a very 'inert' enclosure. |
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Post by pknaz on Mar 29, 2017 14:01:17 GMT -5
If you want to bring physics into this equation, by all means, please explain what a speaker stand does. Please refrain from using esoteric adjectives to describe any processes or functions that a proper speaker stand accomplishes. I'll give you a hint, it _should_ have something to do with the transfer of energy to heat. Now, please explain to me how foam does _not_ do this. |
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Post by pknaz on Mar 29, 2017 14:06:57 GMT -5
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Post by Axis on Mar 29, 2017 14:08:28 GMT -5
Very good Nick ! No, Newton's third law is alive and well. Newton was smarter than anyone alive right now. Einstein was a little smarter and for the most part physics has not really changed since those two dudes inhabited the planet. I'd love to know who is/was really smarter? Newton? Einstein? Tesla? Hawking? Newtonian Physics reached a limit. Relativity took care of many of the problems. It seems we are in the midst of a 3rd revolution with a yet-better description of 'reality'. Sure, in your listening room, Newton Rules. It's really tough to beat a speaker 'spiked' to a concrete slab and made with a very 'inert' enclosure. leonski, I do not agree with your reality at all. Einstein with his thought experiments was only slightly smarter than Newton. Richard P. Feynman was a close third and Hawking gets most things wrong over and over. Hawking just gets on tv a lot. I said this "Very good Nick ! No, Newton's third law is alive and well. Newton was smarter than anyone alive right now. Einstein was a little smarter and for the most part physics has not really changed since those two dudes inhabited the planet." |
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Post by pknaz on Mar 29, 2017 14:08:46 GMT -5
If we're attempting to reduce enclosure resonances, what are some of the tried and true methods for doing this? How might those same methods be applied externally to the enclosure?
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