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Post by wvrick on Feb 14, 2017 17:29:23 GMT -5
I ordered an XMC-1 last week and I'm not worried. In the past when I have experienced a lot of the issues people attribute to the XMC-1 I traced the problem to a better link in the system was actually exposing existing problems with other components and were not the problem at all. I suspect some of the complaints about the EMC-1 are due to other issues and not the processor.
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Post by rbk123 on Feb 14, 2017 18:49:40 GMT -5
I went from UMC-1 -> XMC -> MC 700 (I still have all 3 but currently only running the MC 700). All in the exact same system with nothing changed (not input devices, TV, cables, nada):
- I have had problems with the UMC-1, and have problems with the MC 700 (their HDMI behavior is very similar) - I have had no issues with the XMC (not a one)
Reasons to wait: - in addition to the new HDMI board, the Gen 3 will have improved DACs/internals so it should have some sonic improvement (NOT night/day..)
Alternative suggestion: - get a used XMC and subsequently upgrade the HDMI with the current board or the new one shortly. This should save you more than a few dollars. If you can delay, they'll get cheaper as once the RMC and the Gen 3 become available, there will be more than a few XMC's up for sale.
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Post by jamco on Feb 14, 2017 21:04:56 GMT -5
The XMC-1 was one of my best audio equipment purchases ever; it had that much of an impact on my home theater system. It replaced a B&K Reference 10 preamplifier. A similar purchase was my Rega Planet CD Player at least 16 years ago. Best of luck.
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Post by cawgijoe on Feb 14, 2017 22:17:05 GMT -5
Bought the XMC-1 when it first came out and love it.
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Post by andyman on Feb 14, 2017 23:11:28 GMT -5
Well I finally became an Emotiva owner today. After searching and searching I bought an Xmc on the used market here in Canada. It's less than a year old . Took it out of the box looks in mint condition. Still has the plastic wrap on the display. Remote was never used( man is it heavy) Did a factory reset and now have to find the time to do the swap out. Hope you guys are ready for a lot of questions. Lol
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Post by novisnick on Feb 14, 2017 23:46:17 GMT -5
Well I finally became an Emotiva owner today. After searching and searching I bought an Xmc on the used market here in Canada. It's less than a year old . Took it out of the box looks in mint condition. Still has the plastic wrap on the display. Remote was never used( man is it heavy) Did a factory reset and now have to find the time to do the swap out. Hope you guys are ready for a lot of questions. Lol Welcome to the great joy known as " The XMC-1 "!!!! The users manual is your friend. Link here; emotiva.com/products/pres-and-pros/xmc-1Also, If Dirac has been installed by the previous user you will need to purchase a new license to utilize it. Full live link here; emotiva.com/products/pres-and-pros/accessories/dirac-live-full-emotivaEnjoy, it is a wonderful unit.
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Post by andyman on Feb 14, 2017 23:56:33 GMT -5
Thanks Nick. I was hoping to try out the Dirac LE first but not sure if I can with a used unit. BTW I think the owners manual is great. Simply to read and follow. ( Although I've only thumbed through it tonight. )
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Post by novisnick on Feb 15, 2017 0:19:02 GMT -5
Thanks Nick. I was hoping to try out the Dirac LE first but not sure if I can with a used unit. BTW I think the owners manual is great. Simply to read and follow. ( Although I've only thumbed through it tonight. ) My unit has the Dirac LE still available as I never registered it, I purchased the Full version with my unit and only used that one. Enjoy! Im sure you will!
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Post by geebo on Feb 15, 2017 7:55:51 GMT -5
Been very happy with mine since July 2014. No intentions of replacing it either. Enjoy it and feel free to ask any and all questions you may have here.
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Post by Lsc on Feb 15, 2017 23:33:34 GMT -5
I would rather purchase now for $2000 then for the XMC-2 for $3000 Sounds good. I'd say get it then .
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Post by Loop 7 on Feb 16, 2017 0:23:20 GMT -5
I will likely buy a used XMC-1 after the RMC-1 has been out for a while.
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Post by hosko on Feb 16, 2017 4:01:00 GMT -5
I will likely buy a used XMC-1 after the RMC-1 has been out for a while. Not a bad idea
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Post by urwi on Feb 16, 2017 4:20:39 GMT -5
While I believe this is true, those reported issues might be real and not just user error. So issue reports help other customers to make an informed decision. Ultimately you'll hear from people that have issues rather than those who post they don't. It's your choice but this is true of all makes. People are likely to complain with issues rather than post they're happy.
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Post by Gary Cook on Feb 16, 2017 4:29:13 GMT -5
While I believe this is true, those reported issues might be real and not just user error. So issue reports help other customers to make an informed decision. Ultimately you'll hear from people that have issues rather than those who post they don't. It's your choice but this is true of all makes. People are likely to complain with issues rather than post they're happy. So if Emotiva have sold 3,000+ XMC-1's and, say, 10 people have complained that they had an issue and 2,990 have said nothing, is that leading to an informed decision? Cheers Gary
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Post by hosko on Feb 16, 2017 5:01:26 GMT -5
While I believe this is true, those reported issues might be real and not just user error. So issue reports help other customers to make an informed decision. So if Emotiva have sold 3,000+ XMC-1's and, say, 10 people have complained that they had an issue and 2,990 have said nothing, is that leading to an informed decision? Cheers Gary plus any that have been RMA but not complained about online, most people if something doesnt work will just return it.
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Post by hemster on Feb 16, 2017 9:03:57 GMT -5
While I believe this is true, those reported issues might be real and not just user error. So issue reports help other customers to make an informed decision. Ultimately you'll hear from people that have issues rather than those who post they don't. It's your choice but this is true of all makes. People are likely to complain with issues rather than post they're happy. For this logic to take hold, one needs reports from all users, not just those having issues, but also those that are happy. Only then can an informed decision be made as the information would then be complete.
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Post by urwi on Feb 17, 2017 3:31:17 GMT -5
You obviously know more about actual numbers than I do Believing everything is wrong with a product because there have been issue reports is just as misguided as believing that everything is OK because just a low percentage reported issues. While I believe this is true, those reported issues might be real and not just user error. So issue reports help other customers to make an informed decision. So if Emotiva have sold 3,000+ XMC-1's and, say, 10 people have complained that they had an issue and 2,990 have said nothing, is that leading to an informed decision? Cheers Gary
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Post by urwi on Feb 17, 2017 3:35:02 GMT -5
No. One just needs to verify if the issue is real. Easy to do with a 30 day return window. Of course people can be happy even with flawed products. Lots of examples in audio history but don't we want products that work as they should? While I believe this is true, those reported issues might be real and not just user error. So issue reports help other customers to make an informed decision. For this logic to take hold, one needs reports from all users, not just those having issues, but also those that are happy. Only then can an informed decision be made as the information would then be complete.
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Post by bootman on Feb 17, 2017 8:40:21 GMT -5
Mine just works. xbox one roku chromecast tivo pioneer bluray Wii U All via HDMI and all connected to a Samsung 61" DLP set and controlled via a Harmony remote. No "weird" issues to report that honestly didn't come down to something connected to the XMC not acting right. Examples: reseating a HDMI cable that was loose or a reboot of an attached device (Tivo locking up) Other than when doing a firmware update, I haven't had a need to even power cycle my unit for over a year. Now if I get a new TV or new gear, I will redo the whole setup becasue I know how evil HDMI can be. But I did that with AVRs in the past and it has worked for me. Remember HDMI is a chain and when the chain is working everything is fine. when one link goes bad it is time to rebuild the entire chain.
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Post by 405x5 on Feb 17, 2017 10:27:10 GMT -5
"Mine just works. Now if I get a new TV or new gear, I will redo the whole setup becasue I know how evil HDMI can be. Remember HDMI is a chain and when the chain is working everything is fine. when one link goes bad it is time to rebuild the entire chain. " ....And mine also. I'm a fairly early adopter Oct. 2014 and the unit has been rock solid and only needed to benefit from some of the tweaks that came with the firmware updates that I've kept up with. The XMC-1 in today's market as far as I'm concerned has no competition with it's modular, updateable build. But you hit on something I wanted to elaborate on and that is my dissatisfaction at times with HDMI!! So, just not to worry the O.P. about it, I did want to update my processor back then to take advantage of higher res. audio and video, (The XMC is the one to buy) but as an end user, I wish this could have been achieved without High Definition Multimedia Interface!!!! That being said, the dilemma would be there no matter which processor I plunked the dough down for. Ok so, I've got air now behind my system where beforehand, there was enough RCA to wrap around a football field. The goal was of course, to get picture and sound running all through one place with a "singular" wire.....mission accomplished. However, as you point out, a bad link in the chain can have somewhat of a domino effect. And it's more than that. At times I find all too many audio/video options, and all the additional tech. stuff drains some of the plain old fun away. So, even though both audio and video are running through one connector, the two entities are still VERY separate and need as much attention as ever to come together in concert as one. Am I making any sense?? Bill
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