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Post by frenchyfranky on Feb 18, 2017 14:50:36 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that you will hear your RBH speakers set very differently after adding and setting up correctly the Emo gears into your system.
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Post by wvrick on Feb 19, 2017 6:22:56 GMT -5
I am so anxious to hear the RBHs with the Emotiva. The XMC-1 arrived Thursday and the XPA is supposed to go to production the first of the week. I have repositioned the surrounds, thorough cleaned the room, moved furniture to balance the room and open up the listening space and modified the shelving to hold the new items properly. I will report back as soon as I get the XPA.
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Post by bluemeanies on Feb 19, 2017 12:18:05 GMT -5
By look I meant specs, or more accurately sound, not physical aesthetics. My wording was confusing, I don't care if they look like industrial products. I am more interested in the sound. I live in the middle of nowhere so I don't really have the luxury of listening to other decent speakers firsthand so I usually order on line. I may find out I am perfectly happy with the speakers I have. If you are more interested in the sound of your HT&music system then IMHO throw out the specs and let your ears do the listening. Case in point from my own personal experience. I have B&W 803 diamond speakers and one hi-end audio store told me I need at least 300watts per channel for music listening to get the full balance of components giving tree all for sound reproduction. If possible 500watts! I do not want to rant but my setup for HT is a 990/7700 Outlaw combo. The 7700 is 200 watts per channel and does exceptionally well in reproducing audio for movies. My 2channel sysrem using the same speakers are powered by tube mono-blocks at 65watts per channel with a Grace Design monitoring system. The Bob Latino mono-blocks have also driven these speakers with only 2Output tubes at 35watts per channel. SUBLIME...is the word. Challenge those specs with what you hear and enjoy. Good hunting! |
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Post by wvrick on Feb 19, 2017 20:17:17 GMT -5
That is my plan. Specs are for measuring equipment and listening reveals the personality of the equipment. I will give it a very long listening period with adjustments and trial and error before i make any judgement on the speakers or anything else.
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Post by hemster on Feb 19, 2017 20:35:54 GMT -5
That is my plan. Specs are for measuring equipment and listening reveals the personality of the equipment. I will give it a very long listening period with adjustments and trial and error before i make any judgement on the speakers or anything else. That's prudent. But because of the long time involved, it can be difficult to retain subjective impressions of each scenario, let alone differences between them. Take notes! I'm a bit obsessive about this so I created a spreadsheet to make my notes.  |
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Post by wvrick on Feb 19, 2017 21:27:01 GMT -5
Great idea. Now I have a spreadsheet to design. In case anyone is wondering, yes, I'm a nerd.
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Post by beardedalbatross on Feb 19, 2017 22:50:42 GMT -5
Your speakers are very good, imo. I own the R5bi bookshelf speakers and they are fantastic at their price when there is a sub to handle the low end. Very attractive speakers as well.
I'm not a big believer in spending tons on the electronics, but I do understand that the RBH speakers DO take a bit of power to drive, at least the bookshelf versions do anyway. The good part is you very likely have great speakers and now will have a top tier processor and amp. There is nothing on the market that will make speakers sound audibly better in a home theater than the gear you just bought (again, in my opinion).
With that said, I have a few suggestions. The first would be to make sure your speakers are placed properly in your room. The RBH towers are rear ported so keep them a bit away from the wall and corners. Once your Emotiva gear comes in, take time to go through the initial setup and measurements. I think the extra $100 for the full version of Dirac is worth it once you've spent so much on the XMC-1 already.
My final suggestion would be to grab a second PB-2000 subwoofer. Two subs drastically evens out the bass response in a room. It makes an incredible, extremely audible, difference. Easier to have the subs blend with your speakers, peaks and nulls in the bass region are drastically reduced, to an extent overcomes bad sub placement, etc.
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Post by wvrick on Feb 20, 2017 5:34:54 GMT -5
Thanks for the information. I thought the RBHs were good speakers and your advice is very sound. Once I recover from the recent purchase I will get the Dirac Live and a second sub. I thought the speakers took a lot to drive them. Just to get them to a normal listening level I had to turn the old amp almost 3/4 of the way up. anything more caused clipping and anything less and the sound was thin. I do thin the new equipment will allow the speakers to function properly. If you don't mind I will probably be asking for more advice.
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Post by bluemeanies on Feb 20, 2017 6:42:49 GMT -5
That is my plan. Specs are for measuring equipment and listening reveals the personality of the equipment. I will give it a very long listening period with adjustments and trial and error before i make any judgement on the speakers or anything else. That's prudent. But because of the long time involved, it can be difficult to retain subjective impressions of each scenario, let alone differences between them. Take notes! I'm a bit obsessive about this so I created a spreadsheet to make my notes. I cannot picture myself with a spreadsheet but your main point is valid. |
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