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Post by garbulky on Apr 20, 2017 17:03:42 GMT -5
View AttachmentThe level 2 spring DAC has arrived from Hong Kong. The manufacturer recommends 500 hrs break in time. 8-20 hrs warm up time also. So basically leave it on...!! Out of the box cold it sounds amazing, I'm not one too right opinions on products but I will try after the DAC has had enough time to break in and warm up. I will compare it to my DC-1. Glad to hear! Are you by any chance running fully balanced in to your XPA-1?!
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Post by sheetmetalworker on Apr 20, 2017 17:16:10 GMT -5
View AttachmentThe level 2 spring DAC has arrived from Hong Kong. The manufacturer recommends 500 hrs break in time. 8-20 hrs warm up time also. So basically leave it on...!! Out of the box cold it sounds amazing, I'm not one too right opinions on products but I will try after the DAC has had enough time to break in and warm up. I will compare it to my DC-1. Glad to hear! Are you by any chance running fully balanced in to your XPA-1?! I am running through my xsp-1, ballanced.
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Post by garbulky on Apr 20, 2017 17:54:52 GMT -5
Glad to hear! Are you by any chance running fully balanced in to your XPA-1?! I am running through my xsp-1, ballanced. Nice!!
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Post by sheetmetalworker on Apr 20, 2017 18:33:31 GMT -5
I am running through my xsp-1, ballanced. Nice!! so far the soundstage is much larger than the dc-1, but not over exagerated. Also the midrange is really good, really good. I can definitely here new tones and maybe I'm hearing a better or clearer top end. That's all for now. I will say the DC-1 is a good DAC .
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Post by novisnick on Apr 20, 2017 19:38:03 GMT -5
so far the soundstage is much larger than the dc-1, but not over exagerated. Also the midrange is really good, really good. I can definitely here new tones and maybe I'm hearing a better or clearer top end. That's all for now. I will say the DC-1 is a good DAC . Ive owned the XSP-1/ DC-1 pairing and loved the sound! I feel that I have the same from the XMC-1 so sold my units off. Great stuff IMHO
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Post by sheetmetalworker on Apr 20, 2017 20:14:42 GMT -5
so far the soundstage is much larger than the dc-1, but not over exagerated. Also the midrange is really good, really good. I can definitely here new tones and maybe I'm hearing a better or clearer top end. That's all for now. I will say the DC-1 is a good DAC . Ive owned the XSP-1/ DC-1 pairing and loved the sound! I feel that I have the same from the XMC-1 so sold my units off. Great stuff IMHO yes the combination is awesome.
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Post by klinemj on Apr 21, 2017 9:20:30 GMT -5
Soundsgood so far. Looking forward to more!
Mark
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Post by viablex1 on Apr 26, 2017 8:04:36 GMT -5
I have been using the Oppo Sonica balanced through and XSP-1. I really can't believe my ears!!! it is killer!!!
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Post by klinemj on Apr 27, 2017 15:39:03 GMT -5
so far the soundstage is much larger than the dc-1, but not over exagerated. Also the midrange is really good, really good. I can definitely here new tones and maybe I'm hearing a better or clearer top end. That's all for now. I will say the DC-1 is a good DAC . Any updates with more listening? Mark
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Post by qdtjni on Apr 27, 2017 15:55:59 GMT -5
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Post by sheetmetalworker on Apr 28, 2017 16:29:51 GMT -5
so far the soundstage is much larger than the dc-1, but not over exagerated. Also the midrange is really good, really good. I can definitely here new tones and maybe I'm hearing a better or clearer top end. That's all for now. I will say the DC-1 is a good DAC . Any updates with more listening? Mark hi Mark, well I have about 160 hrs on the spring DAC. I've probably listened about 8 hrs of that. It's very natural sounding. Less congestion and larger soundstage. ( Than Dc-1). It's not a night and day difference on my gear though. There's something just right about it though and I can't put my finger on it yet to convey. I've only listened in NOS mode also. I haven't tried any DSD or the upsampling option.
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Post by sheetmetalworker on Apr 28, 2017 16:43:53 GMT -5
I had a bigger oh sh** moment when I went from the XDA-2 to to the DC-1. But like I already said it does sound so right and natural.
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Post by garbulky on Apr 28, 2017 16:57:17 GMT -5
I had a bigger oh sh** moment when I went from the XDA-2 to to the DC-1. But like I already said it does sound so right and natural. The DC-1 is no slouch. But you're right about the "right and natural". I don't know how much you know about your current DAC but it's both multibit plus it has this really cool thing that corrects for the deficiencies of multibit (a correction circuit for differences in the resistor ladder). I found that very intriguing. It means somebody is exploring "correct" DAC implementations - discrete bit by bit reproductions vs approximations - and then correcting for the limitations of multibit implementation (slightly inconsistent resistor implementations). Now if they could combine what the Holo DAC does with the filter technology of the Ygdrassil then I think you may really have something amazing!
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Post by sheetmetalworker on Apr 28, 2017 17:49:56 GMT -5
I had a bigger oh sh** moment when I went from the XDA-2 to to the DC-1. But like I already said it does sound so right and natural. The DC-1 is no slouch. But you're right about the "right and natural". I don't know how much you know about your current DAC but it's both multibit plus it has this really cool thing that corrects for the deficiencies of multibit (a correction circuit for differences in the resistor ladder). I found that very intriguing. It means somebody is exploring "correct" DAC implementations - discrete bit by bit reproductions vs approximations - and then correcting for the limitations of multibit implementation (slightly inconsistent resistor implementations). Now if they could combine what the Holo DAC does with the filter technology of the Ygdrassil then I think you may really have something amazing! yeah now I wish I didn't cancel my yiggy order, so I could have compared. But schitt was taking too long and not being totally honest with there expected ship date. Something that just bothered me.
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Post by sheetmetalworker on Apr 28, 2017 17:54:49 GMT -5
Like I said garbulky, it hasn't been a day and night difference between the two dacs. They are both good in there own right. Especially when you factor in price difference. I'm not going to be getting rid of my DC-1.
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Post by klinemj on Apr 28, 2017 18:01:31 GMT -5
Like I said garbulky, it hasn't been a day and night difference between the two dacs. They are both good in there own right. Especially when you factor in price difference. I'm not going to be getting rid of my DC-1. Thanks for the update. Sounds like a very good DAC. Mark
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Post by sheetmetalworker on Apr 28, 2017 18:05:34 GMT -5
Like I said garbulky, it hasn't been a day and night difference between the two dacs. They are both good in there own right. Especially when you factor in price difference. I'm not going to be getting rid of my DC-1. Thanks for the update. Sounds like a very good DAC. Mark I'm only comparing to the XDA-2 and the DC-1 DAC. Before that I was using processors. So I'm not the best to be person to be giving thoughts or advice.....lol
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Post by sheetmetalworker on Apr 28, 2017 18:17:25 GMT -5
I would suggest buying this spring DAC. I can't say obviously if it's better than or equal to the schitt. But what I can say is that's sweet sounding, not fatiguing at all. Large sound stage , Holo graphic at times. Everything from the bottom up sounds natural(real).
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Post by brutiarti on Apr 28, 2017 18:24:14 GMT -5
The DC-1 is no slouch. But you're right about the "right and natural". I don't know how much you know about your current DAC but it's both multibit plus it has this really cool thing that corrects for the deficiencies of multibit (a correction circuit for differences in the resistor ladder). I found that very intriguing. It means somebody is exploring "correct" DAC implementations - discrete bit by bit reproductions vs approximations - and then correcting for the limitations of multibit implementation (slightly inconsistent resistor implementations). Now if they could combine what the Holo DAC does with the filter technology of the Ygdrassil then I think you may really have something amazing! yeah now I wish I didn't cancel my yiggy order, so I could have compared. But schitt was taking too long and not being totally honest with there expected ship date. Something that just bothered me. It would be nice if you give the Yggy a try. It does everything right, at least on my system.
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Post by audiobill on Apr 28, 2017 18:51:50 GMT -5
"I don't know how much you know about your current DAC but it's both multibit plus it has this really cool thing that corrects for the deficiencies of multibit (a correction circuit for differences in the resistor ladder). I found that very intriguing. It means somebody is exploring "correct" DAC implementations - discrete bit by bit reproductions vs approximations - and then correcting for the limitations of multibit implementation (slightly inconsistent resistor implementations). "
Voodoo, N'awlins style!!!
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