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Post by bluemeanies on May 20, 2017 7:12:19 GMT -5
I would like to know how many people have taken the time and patience to correctly position their speakers 🔊 for 2channel listening attaining a 3dimensional sound in their room.
How many people think it is unimportant.
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Post by bluemeanies on May 20, 2017 7:13:19 GMT -5
.25"
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Post by brutiarti on May 20, 2017 7:26:11 GMT -5
I would like to know how many people have taken the time and patience to correctly position their speakers 🔊 for 2channel listening attaining a 3dimensional sound in their room. How many people think it is unimportant. Really important imo. Even tough i don't toe in my speakers because the manufacturer doesn't recommend it i spent a good amount time with the distances from walls and listening position. |
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Post by adaboy on May 20, 2017 7:49:29 GMT -5
Interesting topic as I generally always use toe-in I've never measured the degree. Hmmm thanks
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Post by mgbpuff on May 20, 2017 8:24:57 GMT -5
a tad or two
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Post by geebo on May 20, 2017 8:37:07 GMT -5
If you were to draw lines perpendicular to the face of my speakers they'd intersect about 3 ~ 5' beyond the sweet spot.
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Post by bluemeanies on May 20, 2017 8:48:44 GMT -5
If you were to draw lines perpendicular to the face of my speakers they'd intersect about 3 ~ 5' beyond the sweet spot. Something along what I did but was able to cheap a bit. I used the Triangularization method, although as I mentioned I cheated somewhat because NO dedicated room or room in a house has the perfect dimensions for audio listening, unless perhaps a room was specifically built for the purpose of 2channel listening. Thanks for responding guys. I hope to hear from more forum members. |
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Post by mauriceminor on May 20, 2017 9:00:43 GMT -5
My Linkwitz Lab LXmini's are placed the same as the still in use Pluto's The Pluto tweeters, or the LXmini full range drivers, point toward the sweet spot
With this placement, and away from any walls, the speakers disappear
There is a strong center phantom image as well
More information at www.linkwitzlab.com
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Post by petew on May 20, 2017 9:19:41 GMT -5
my stand mount b&w's work well with a little bit of toe-in. their perpendicular lines cross about eight feet behind the couch. And they're about 18" from the wall. I'm building constant directivity corner horns for the theater, They will be toed in at 45 degrees with the goal to cross the axis in front of the sweet spot. www.pispeakers.comI am building the seven model |
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Post by mountain on May 20, 2017 11:03:51 GMT -5
My def techs are bipolar with built in subs. They are about 4 1/2 feet from the front wall and toed in with an angle that is approximately 2 to 4 feet behind my listening position.
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Post by Loop 7 on May 20, 2017 11:10:13 GMT -5
In my room, ELAC B6's are toed in to where I just see the inside of the speaker's inner side; like a sliver of the side.
The Vandersteen 2ce Signature Mark II's need zero toe in.
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Post by pknaz on May 20, 2017 13:46:33 GMT -5
There needs to be an option for "It depends" - since some speakers are specifically designed for toe-in and others are not designed for it. it's all in the crossover.
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Post by repeetavx on May 20, 2017 13:53:56 GMT -5
I've probably spent ten to fifteen sessions of three to five hours each, exploring how different angles affect the sound at my listening position. What I ended up with, with my bipolar speakers, is barely toed in.
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Post by DYohn on May 20, 2017 14:38:57 GMT -5
Toe-in is completely dependent on the speaker and how it interacts with the room. In my system it created problems so i don't use it. YMMV.
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Post by pedrocols on May 20, 2017 14:40:14 GMT -5
I have magnepan speakers so the manufacturer recommends toe in.
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Post by 405x5 on May 20, 2017 16:17:33 GMT -5
I would like to know how many people have taken the time and patience to correctly position their speakers 🔊 for 2channel listening attaining a 3dimensional sound in their room. How many people think it is unimportant. Tricky question and answer for me anyway (please look at my avatar) As you can see....I'm already toed in "by default". The prism design of my loudspeakers utilizes floor/wall boundaries to enhance both bass response and dispersion characteristics. Additionally, the output of each of the 4 panels can be altered via wireless remote control to increase the output of the inner panels, for tighter imaging, or switching to higher output of the outer panel for wider dispersion. In either case the volume output of the system remains constant. Bill |
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Post by adaboy on May 20, 2017 16:23:48 GMT -5
I would like to know how many people have taken the time and patience to correctly position their speakers 🔊 for 2channel listening attaining a 3dimensional sound in their room. How many people think it is unimportant. Tricky question and answer for me anyway (please look at my avatar) As you can see....I'm already toed in "by default". The prism design of my loudspeakers utilizes floor/wall boundaries to enhance both bass response and dispersion characteristics. Additionally, the output of each of the 4 panels can be altered via wireless remote control to increase the output of the inner panels, for tighter imaging, or switching to higher output of the outer panel for wider dispersion. In either case the volume output of the system remains constant. Bill What's the name of your speakers again? I want to look at them more closely. Thanks |
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Post by 405x5 on May 20, 2017 16:30:16 GMT -5
Tricky question and answer for me anyway (please look at my avatar) As you can see....I'm already toed in "by default". The prism design of my loudspeakers utilizes floor/wall boundaries to enhance both bass response and dispersion characteristics. Additionally, the output of each of the 4 panels can be altered via wireless remote control to increase the output of the inner panels, for tighter imaging, or switching to higher output of the outer panel for wider dispersion. In either case the volume output of the system remains constant. Bill What's the name of your speakers again? I want to look at them more closely. Thanks Allison Acoustics IC20 |
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Post by vneal on May 20, 2017 17:16:48 GMT -5
Yes mine are slightly toed in. There is no hard rule other than experiment and whatever sounds best in your room is the way to roll
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Post by RichGuy on May 20, 2017 17:34:39 GMT -5
I've played around quite a bit with toe in positioning in my room with my setup, I prefer my speakers about 1 ft from the wall maybe just a little over and toed in to point so they meet just behind the main listening sweet spot position.
I am sure room and speakers will make the results vary so everyone should experiment on their own to find their favorite results.
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