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Post by garbulky on Jun 25, 2017 23:08:48 GMT -5
So I forgot to mention in regards to the MC-700. With my very brief encounter with it, I wouldn't put it on my reccomended list. I encountered a frustrating control menu, lacklustre sound, and an HDMI OSD bug. Now it was brief. So who knows. But it doesn't have my vote.
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Post by bryanpritchard on Jun 25, 2017 23:10:39 GMT -5
Secret sale? OK got my attention now!!
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Post by teaman on Jun 25, 2017 23:14:40 GMT -5
Secret sale? OK got my attention now!! Secret Sale pricing: If you would like to place an order give us a call at 615-790-6754 or email sales@emotiva.com. Speakers Airmotiv 4S Monitors $359.00 Airmotiv 5S Monitors $449.00 Airmotiv 6S Monitors $629.00 Stealth 8 Monitor $809.00 Airmotiv B1 Bookshelf Speakers $269.00 Airmotiv C1 Center Speaker $224.00 BasX LCR Loudspeaker $134.00 Airmotiv E1 Surround Speakers $242.00 Airmotiv T1 Tower Loudspeakers $629.00 BasX S8 Subwoofer $179.00 BasX S10 Subwoofer $269.00 Amplifiers BasX A100 Stereo Amp $206.00 BasX A150 Stereo Amp $269.00 BasX A300 Stereo Amp $359.00 BasX A500 5-Channel Amp $449.00 BasX A700 7-Channel Amp $539.00 XPA-1 G2 Monoblock Amp $1,079.00 Pre/Pros BasX MC-700 7.1/4K Processor $539.00 BasX PT-100 Stereo Preamp $269.00 BasX TA-100 Integrated Preamp $359.00 XPS-1 Phono Preamp $161.00 XSP-1 G2 Stereo Preamp $1,079.00 SP-1 Phono Preamp/Extender $269.00 DACs Stealth DC-1 24/192 DAC $449.00 Little Ego 32/384 DAC $89.00 Big Ego 32/384 DAC $175.00 CD Player ERC-3 CD Player/Transport $449.00 Accessories CMX-2 AC Line Filter System $107.00 CMX-6 Power Distribution System $134.00 Mind you not every piece of equipment is offered but you can call! Tim
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Post by Axis on Jun 25, 2017 23:34:45 GMT -5
So I forgot to mention in regards to the MC-700. With my very brief encounter with it, I wouldn't put it on my reccomended list. I encountered a frustrating control menu, lacklustre sound, and an HDMI OSD bug. Now it was brief. So who knows. But it doesn't have my vote. The DC-1 you suggested Garbulky has a very good analog preamp in it and if everyone would get off of this multichannel stuff for a moment and advise bryanpritchard on a good 2 channel analog preamp along with two XPA-1 monoblocks into his very nice speakers. They are very 94 dB sensitive and at 4 Ohms will allow for better output performance from an amp. XPA-1 monoblocks would be a great choice for the speaker because it has some healthy drivers that are built to take up to 400 watts. The XPA-1 on a speaker will take hold of those drivers and bring them to the best performance. A BasX amplifier is not going to do that for his speakers. You get the gravy with the XPA-1 but you can get everything you need from the current Gen 3 XPA amplifiers also. Stay away from the amplifiers in receivers for good sound quality. If a receiver has that then it cost big time. You get way way more for your money with an Emotiva amp ! 1.25” x 2.4” (3.2cm x 6.1cm) Folded Motion Transducer with 4.5” x 2.75” (11.4cm x 7cm) diaphragm. 6.5” (16.5cm) aluminum cone with cast polymer basket. Sealed chamber format. Rigid structured dust cap to reduce cone break-up modes. Two 8” (20.3cm) aluminum cone with cast aluminum basket. Non-resonant asymmetrical chamber format. Rigid structured dust cap to reduce cone break-up modes.
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Post by bryanpritchard on Jun 25, 2017 23:38:10 GMT -5
Good advice!!!
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Post by bryanpritchard on Jun 25, 2017 23:38:46 GMT -5
XPA Gen 3 secret sale pricing?
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Post by Axis on Jun 25, 2017 23:54:23 GMT -5
XPA Gen 3 secret sale pricing? The Gen 3 XPA amplifiers can have one to seven channels and channels can be added after purchase. There are currently 300 watt modules for sale but in the future there will be 2 X 75 watt modules that would allow for 14 channels in one chassis. There are also 600 watt balanced mono modules that will need to be bought in a chassis with a different power supply for them. Do your research. You could future proof both for 2 channel and surround in one chassis and get great sound quality for your two big speakers and surround speakers. emotiva.com/products/amplifiers/xpa-gen3
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Post by teaman on Jun 26, 2017 0:01:42 GMT -5
Bryan, do you want strictly a stereo set up or are you looking at a stereo set up that can also be used as mains in a surround set up? You are going to get a bunch of confusing help unless we know exactly what you want.
Number one, I probably cannot truly recommend the MC-700 pre/pro as I do not, nor have I ever owned one. I have all Sherbourn Pre/Pros and receivers. From the comments everyone was making here on Thursday I was understanding that there is an update available with the newly purchased MC-700's that has eliminated the bugs. Maybe I am wrong. If you have the extra $2500 for the XMC-1, feel free to go that route. I would never pay $2k plus for a pre/pro knowing full well it is destined to become obsolete within two years.
As to the Gen 1 vs Gen 2 XPA-1 amps. The Gen 1 transitions seamlessly from Class A to Class A/B when the amp reaches that ten or so Class A watts. The Gen 2 has a gimmicky front slider that allows you to control listening in "Only Class A" or "Class A/B". Absolutely no difference as one switches over automatically and the other asks you to slide the front dial. I doubt highly your amp is going to blow up, short out or clip if you reach the 60 watts and you are still switched in the Class A setting...the amp realizes it and switches you over...just like the Gen 1. Yes, there is supposedly 60 wpc in Class A on the Gen 2 amp vs 10 wpc of Class A on the Gen 1 amp. My main speakers are 102 and 103db efficient so I would never even use up the 10 watts of Class A. If the lower Class A guideline for Gen 1 scares you, by all means pick up Gen 2.
Tim
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Post by teaman on Jun 26, 2017 0:03:49 GMT -5
XPA Gen 3 secret sale pricing? I linked the Secret Sale pricing in the previous post for you Bryan. Not huge savings by any means but $100 here and $100 there adds up.
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Post by Axis on Jun 26, 2017 0:17:49 GMT -5
XPA Gen 3 secret sale pricing? I linked the Secret Sale pricing in the previous post for you Bryan. Not huge savings by any means but $100 here and $100 there adds up. Looks like he is asking where is the secret sale for the Gen 3 XPA. Gen 3 XPA is not on sale. Just what you see on the list.
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Post by teaman on Jun 26, 2017 0:31:41 GMT -5
Thanks Axis, makes sense. I am tired and my brain wasn't computing....lol
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Post by Boomzilla on Jun 26, 2017 5:45:45 GMT -5
Yes - The XMC-1 sounds better than the MC-700 (and yes, the latter still has a few bugs). Yes - Good power amps will be a great long-term investment. More often than not - Separates can sound better than a good receiver, but not always More often than not - Dedicated 2-channel gear has better sound quality than multi-channel gear Occasionally - You can find a setup that works better than expected via synergy
That said, Anthem gear (although I've not heard any) has a good reputation. The XMC-1 (that I have heard) sounds exceptionally good in both stereo and surround. The generation one and two Emotiva XPA amps (that I've owned most of and some multiple times) are not only good values but also great-sounding. The generation three XPAs I've not heard, and can't comment on. The BasX "A-series" Emotiva amps can sound very good, provided your source is happy with their 27K ohm input impedance (mine currently isn't). But the PT-100 + A-300 was a happy combination.
Happy shopping, Bryan!
Cordially - Boomzilla
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Post by bryanpritchard on Jun 26, 2017 13:32:54 GMT -5
Thinking instead of the Anthem get a Marantz etc and a XPA 2 ch for music not sure about dropping $2k on the Anthem if I will be using an outboard amp
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Post by Axis on Jun 26, 2017 13:45:36 GMT -5
Thinking instead of the Anthem get a Marantz etc and a XPA 2 ch for music not sure about dropping $2k on the Anthem if I will be using an outboard amp An XPA-2 of any generation will give you all the good sound quality and output you need for your speakers. Just make sure you choose a good preamp to go with it.
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Post by frogman122 on Jul 21, 2017 8:45:15 GMT -5
ANTHEM !!!!!
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Post by nickwin on Oct 23, 2017 9:07:00 GMT -5
Hi everyone from Woodstock, Ga. Looking at an Anthem 720 receiver, BUT also looking at an Emotiva XPA I am used to separates but the Anthem I read great reviews. I also read amazing reviews on the Emotiva XPA Can anyone give me input why I should go with Emotiva? I am also used to amps with a toroidal power supply which neither has. Is this a concern? I will be driving ML 60XT with my next amp. I ave also just caught my eye on the A5175 as well but not sure if that's enough power I just sold my Paradigm studio 100 v1 yeah great speakers bought in 1997 so sent them out to pasture. Thanks everyone!!! Bryan I own an Anthem AVR, an Anthem Statement processor as well as XPA get 1 and 2 amps and the XMC1. Both companies products are very good. I would say Emotiva generally gives you more per $ but Anthem products tend to me a little more refined IMO. Comparing an Anthem AVR to a XPA amp is kind of apples to oranges but I think they both have there place. I use a MRX310 at my cottage with relativity efficient 8 ohm speakers. This system never gets pushed real hard as we usually have our windows open and have neighbors close by and I really just wanted a simple streamlined set up in this case. The MRX310 delivers in this regard. All in all it sounds really great for an AVR. It never really wows me with its sound but it never sounds bad either, it just kind of disappears which IMO is a good thing. The amp seems very conservatively rated at 80 WPC. SQ and power seems far better than any other AVR I have used. ARC is also very good. I would say its way more consistent and easier to use than Dirac, but if your willing to invest the time and effort Dirac CAN give you better results. When you get it just right Dirac is borderline magical. ARC is basically foolproof while Dirac full gives you total control, including control to do really bad things. It really just depends on your speakers and how hard you intend to push them whether the extra power from a separate Emotiva amp would be beneficial. For 8 ohm speakers >88db/w I think the MRX720 would do just fine. 4 ohm or less efficient than you would probably notice the improvement from an XPA amp. As others have said not all XPAs are created equal, the XPA5 has a relatively small power supply for its rated power whereas the XPA1 is much more overbuilt. With difficult to drive speakers I notice a big difference in SQ and control with the XPA1 vs the XPA5. If you care about SQ I would go Anthem over Marantz all day. I SQ is REALLY important I would try to get a processor instead of an AVR, it makes a difference for music. Good luck! EDIT: Just realized how old this thread was.
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Post by Soup on Oct 23, 2017 17:04:39 GMT -5
I Love my Anthem MRX 510! It replaced my Emo UMC200!
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Post by leonski on Oct 23, 2017 19:26:28 GMT -5
Motion XT60 from ML? According to one review, measured about 88.5db sensitivity. A ways away from the 94db I see listed in a post, above. Of course, ML cheats on the specs. It is a 4 ohm speaker and the 'mesured' 2.83 volts is really 2 watts @4ohm. Speaker would probably measure closer to 91db @2volts.
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Post by haris525 on Nov 25, 2017 13:48:16 GMT -5
2 Channel is one of the HARDEST to setup. When you are doing surround sound, the receiver will take care of all the distances, delays, timing. In 2 channel not so much. If you run a 2.1 setup welcome to hell. My initial 2.1 budget was 3-4k USD, but over the years I spent around 7-8k USD. Its best if you buy an integrated amplifier with room correction, and sub-woofer integration my current 2.1 setup (all used parts) oppo HA-1 DAC XSP 1 Parasound A-21 SVS - ultra bookshelf (was using paradigm s8 signature before) SVS - ultra sb 16 The subwoofer integration has been a nightmare, I am saving up funds for this, hopefully it will fix it - www.anthemav.com/products-current/collection=performance/model=str-integrated-amplifier/page=overviewbecause it has ARC, and bass management for 2 subs, prepare to spend ....and spend a bit more. I will sell my current setup soon, and just buy the anthem integrated. it's the perfect all in one solution.
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Post by leonski on Nov 25, 2017 16:03:48 GMT -5
2 Channel is one of the HARDEST to setup. When you are doing surround sound, the receiver will take care of all the distances, delays, timing. In 2 channel not so much. If you run a 2.1 setup welcome to hell. My initial 2.1 budget was 3-4k USD, but over the years I spent around 7-8k USD. Its best if you buy an integrated amplifier with room correction, and sub-woofer integration my current 2.1 setup (all used parts) oppo HA-1 DAC XSP 1 Parasound A-21 SVS - ultra bookshelf (was using paradigm s8 signature before) SVS - ultra sb 16 The subwoofer integration has been a nightmare, I am saving up funds for this, hopefully it will fix it - www.anthemav.com/products-current/collection=performance/model=str-integrated-amplifier/page=overviewbecause it has ARC, and bass management for 2 subs, prepare to spend ....and spend a bit more. I will sell my current setup soon, and just buy the anthem integrated. it's the perfect all in one solution. 2 channel setup can be eased somewhat by using CARDAS method as shown @link: www.cardas.com/room_setup_main.phpFor sub? Are you running speakers full range? What is lower limit for speakers? My sub integration problem with my Panels (Magnepan 1.6) went away when 2 things happened. I first relocated the sub OUT of a corner. Secondly? When I purchased a pair of A23amps for the panels, I ALSO got the P5 preamp which has reasonable, or at least useful, Bass Management. I removed the lowest octave from the main speakers and crossed to the sub a little below THAT using the subs 24db / octave crossover. Crossing to sub @80hz, which is either Dolby or Thx practice, is, IMO, a bit Too High. My sub is Invisible.
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