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Post by Bonzo on Oct 19, 2017 14:44:45 GMT -5
So I'm gearing up to install my new ceiling speakers for Atmos / DTS:X and I have a question. Once the speakers are installed, what do you do on the back side (attic side) to protect the speakers? My house is an open attic ranch. The speakers will go on the ceiling that is currently basically covered with blown-in insulation. Of course I'll push the insulation back while installing the speakers, but what do I do afterwards? I don't think just tossing the old blown-in insulation back over the speakers is a good idea, both for the speakers and/or fire hazard. And I don't want to leave them uncovered causing un-insulated "holes" in the ceiling, and allowing dirt/dust/heat/cold to mess with the speakers. I thought about making a box sort of structure, but was wondering if that would mess with the speaker's operation, or produce unwanted artifacts like excessive boomy bass. I could also buy one of those 48" long fiber "concrete footer" tubes and cut it down into 4 pieces to surround the speaker (then cover the tube with a cardboard plug), but I'm afraid of the same issues.
So is there a definitive answer? Any input you could give would be helpful here.
Thanks ----Bonzo
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Post by Bonzo on Oct 19, 2017 14:51:19 GMT -5
I bought 4 of these to do the .4. www.amazon.com/Definitive-Technology-UEWA-ceiling-Speaker/dp/B0024POB2CBut I'm considering buying 2 more and installing them for .6. I wouldn't run .6 right now, but figure I might in the future, and better to buy all the same speakers now and be done with it. I'm just not sure if in my room I'd really ever need the .6 vs the .4. Any thoughts? My rooms is about 15 x 24 or so. MEDIA ROOM 3.pdf (15.83 KB) |
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Post by ac2011 on Oct 19, 2017 15:02:30 GMT -5
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Post by Bonzo on Oct 19, 2017 15:28:59 GMT -5
Updated room drawing showing ceiling speaker placement. MEDIA ROOM 3.pdf (15.83 KB) |
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Post by Bonzo on Oct 19, 2017 15:35:52 GMT -5
I sure have not. That's exactly the sort of thing I was wondering. Thanks for the link. So I'm sure protection is a good idea. And this version using foam would tend to be less reflective and boomy I would think. I guess I should probably do some internet searching to see if there is one brand of this sort of thing I find better than another. Thanks for making me a aware of such an available product. |
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Post by Bonzo on Oct 19, 2017 15:50:13 GMT -5
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Post by Loop 7 on Oct 19, 2017 17:17:03 GMT -5
The Parts Express solution looks stellar.
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Post by jlafrenz on Oct 19, 2017 17:29:23 GMT -5
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Post by Gary Cook on Oct 19, 2017 17:45:06 GMT -5
Protecting the back side, got it .......................  Cheers Gary |
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Post by teaman on Oct 19, 2017 17:51:29 GMT -5
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Post by ac2011 on Oct 20, 2017 6:40:44 GMT -5
I think I've seen something like this on Amazon, but don't think it was this cheap (although wouldn't be as cheap for me as I'm in Canada). I've had some ceiling speakers sitting in boxes for ages waiting to be put up in the downstairs bonus room (currently kids playroom mostly, hoping to someday be a gaming room). The ceiling doesn't have any insulation in it, so that is not a real worry for me (although dust is dust) - but the room is right below the kitchen/family room, so I'm somewhat concerned about sound-bleed through the ceiling. Kind of why I was thinking about those ones I linked, which are a similar idea to the Dynabox ones. Honestly, I'd just like to get the speakers in! |
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Post by Bonzo on Oct 20, 2017 8:38:31 GMT -5
That looks like a good one too. Much like the one on E-bay, just more name brand. Looks like it also comes with some extra sound deadening stuff. It's now on my list of options. Thanks. I have sent an e-mail to a guy at Def Tech who I've spoken to before to get his recommendations. Once that information is in I'll do some shopping. |
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Post by Bonzo on Oct 20, 2017 8:40:53 GMT -5
Honestly, I'd just like to get the speakers in! You and me both! My new (bought used) side surrounds aren't actually hung yet, and I've had them for a year now!!! So when I do this I'm making some big changes all at once. New sides, new ceilings, and a new processor. |
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Post by Bonzo on Oct 20, 2017 8:42:47 GMT -5
Those would be awesome in a bathroom retrofit. Instant shower audio to sing by!!!  |
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Post by klinemj on Oct 23, 2017 6:43:59 GMT -5
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Post by DYohn on Oct 23, 2017 9:45:53 GMT -5
To protect open-back ceiling speakers from insulation or other debris you can just use cotton cloth like a cut-up old bed sheet. Installed over the speaker and secured through the dry-wall hole. The ready-made solutions are great if you want fast, but old bed sheets are much cheaper.
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Post by rbk123 on Oct 24, 2017 9:07:38 GMT -5
Agree with DYohn - the old sheet cut to fit (will turn out similar to the Parts Express solution) is great especially for those that don't have access from above. If you do, I just cut a piece of normal insulation (without the paper backing) to drape over the back of the speaker. It insulates and keeps the blown insulation out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 15:23:08 GMT -5
Try a rigid insulation sheet, (R-Max)- cut to size & glued together to make a box.
I do this for can lighting. If you're anal like me, glue the diy box to the drywall to keep any bugs out.
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Post by ciaorebecca on Jun 10, 2020 17:01:19 GMT -5
I know this is a very old forum but I found this in June of 2020 and came up with a potential solution. The linked speaker covers are very handy but we were short on time. We decided to buy shower caps from Target for less than $6 for a pair and were able to use them to cover the backside of our speakers before the insulation was done in our ceilings.
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Post by 405x5 on Jun 11, 2020 12:21:53 GMT -5
I know this is a very old forum but I found this in June of 2020 and came up with a potential solution. The linked speaker covers are very handy but we were short on time. We decided to buy shower caps from Target for less than $6 for a pair and were able to use them to cover the backside of our speakers before the insulation was done in our ceilings. Good idea!  |
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