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Post by mr on Feb 7, 2018 18:59:38 GMT -5
Here I am again, attempting to set up my XMC-1 that has been in storage for more than a year. Either I can't remember, or never knew, the answer to this:
I want to set up my Oppo to play audio through HDMI, 2.0 analog and 5.1 analog.
I also want to play the video from my Mac Mini (Roon) and playback audio from both HDMI and USB. I have ripped 5.1 and 2.0 high res files.
Is there a way to make these setting in advance so I don't have to physically change the audio input each time?
I tried setting a button for each of these, but once I input the HDMI video, the audio input re-sets for all inputs using the HDMI video.
Sorry, but I need help on how to do this. Seems possible, but is currently beyond me.
Thanks in advance.
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Post by geebo on Feb 7, 2018 20:41:34 GMT -5
No way to assign audio inputs to a video input with the XMC. Any given HDMI input will use the audio on that input. However, if you switch to a non HDMI input, video will continue to play from that last selected video input. So changing from an Oppo sourced HDMI connection to an Oppo sourced digital or analog input will play audio from that chosen input and video will continue to play from the HDMI input.
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Post by mr on Feb 8, 2018 11:03:11 GMT -5
No way to assign audio inputs to a video input with the XMC. Any given HDMI input will use the audio on that input. However, if you switch to a non HDMI input, video will continue to play from that last selected video input. So changing from an Oppo sourced HDMI connection to an Oppo sourced digital or analog input will play audio from that chosen input and video will continue to play from the HDMI input. Thanks. I was hoping to make the change with one push of a remote button. I mused on it last night, and I now see I should set up an HDMI default for each of my devices, changing the audio input using the menu function when I want options. Three or so button pushes instead of one.
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Post by geebo on Feb 8, 2018 11:08:15 GMT -5
No way to assign audio inputs to a video input with the XMC. Any given HDMI input will use the audio on that input. However, if you switch to a non HDMI input, video will continue to play from that last selected video input. So changing from an Oppo sourced HDMI connection to an Oppo sourced digital or analog input will play audio from that chosen input and video will continue to play from the HDMI input. Thanks. I was hoping to make the change with one push of a remote button. I mused on it last night, and I now see I should set up an HDMI default for each of my devices, changing the audio input using the menu function when I want options. Three or so button pushes instead of one. If you have a Harmony remote you can make separate activities for each audio selection and have the Harmony remote do all the work behind the scenes.
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Post by mr on Feb 8, 2018 11:21:27 GMT -5
Thanks. I was hoping to make the change with one push of a remote button. I mused on it last night, and I now see I should set up an HDMI default for each of my devices, changing the audio input using the menu function when I want options. Three or so button pushes instead of one. If you have a Harmony remote you can make separate activities for each audio selection and have the Harmony remote do all the work behind the scenes. I have the Elite, might give it a try. Appreciate the input.
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Post by mr on Feb 9, 2018 11:03:06 GMT -5
Works fine, thanks so much!
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Post by motsu on Feb 10, 2018 3:03:58 GMT -5
>No way to assign audio inputs to a video input with the XMC. Any given HDMI input will use the audio on that input.
not true! you can permanently set the audio for one of the video sources to be any of the other audio sources (ie, hdmi1 video plays optical, usb, or maybe hdmi2 audio). i say maybe on the last part since my gpu is funky and wont let me do this. i dont think its the xmc though.
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Post by edrummereasye on Feb 10, 2018 19:29:06 GMT -5
Well, I guess if it works, you're good... but I think even easier than programming it to go through the menu, is to use the "last video" feature... I have three inputs assigned to the Oppo, one is for watching movies, one is for listening I think via HDMI with the XMC-1 doing D-A conversion, and another for the Oppo doing the decoding and sending 2-channel balanced analog audio to the XMC-1, in Direct mode (or "Audiophile Nirvana" or whatever the "most un-touched" mode is). These inputs are successive on the XMC-1 menu, so I still get the benefit of the video from the Oppo being displayed on the TV... *and* it's one button to change from one to another. I do the same with my HTPC, only I have even more inputs assigned, due to the HDMI out and the Xonar card which has analog and digital outs, plus USB, etc.
As always, I will take this opportunity to say that, while this approach works, I would be ecstatic if Emotiva returned to the "Virtual Inputs" theory of the UMC-1 for their next generation of processors... you could assign any physical audio input to any physical video input, and assign any of them to multiple "virtual" inputs, etc., without worrying about trying to arrange them sequentially in the menu... it was the ultimate in flexibility, and I still think of it as "the way it *should* be".
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Post by edrummereasye on Feb 10, 2018 20:03:03 GMT -5
>No way to assign audio inputs to a video input with the XMC. Any given HDMI input will use the audio on that input. not true! you can permanently set the audio for one of the video sources to be any of the other audio sources (ie, hdmi1 video plays optical, usb, or maybe hdmi2 audio). i say maybe on the last part since my gpu is funky and wont let me do this. i dont think its the xmc though. This is also true... it's not limited to HDMI/HDMI; however, since the "menu inputs" are tied to the "physical inputs", you can only have one input that uses e.g., "HDMI1" for video; if you want to have video from HDMI1 with audio from multiple sources, you need to resort to using the "last video" approach, which limits you on ordering of inputs; although I've found I can sometimes get around that restriction if I cycle the inputs quickly enough that the video doesn't "lock on" to something else in between. It does work, it's just less than ideal.
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Post by Percussionista on Feb 10, 2018 22:09:08 GMT -5
...I would be ecstatic if Emotiva returned to the "Virtual Inputs" theory of the UMC-1 for their next generation of processors... you could assign any physical audio input to any physical video input, and assign any of them to multiple "virtual" inputs, etc., without worrying about trying to arrange them sequentially in the menu... it was the ultimate in flexibility, and I still think of it as "the way it *should* be". +1 on that! I think the only con for this is that you can't have a physical button on the remote that selects your virtual input, so you have to scroll through the defined inputs which could be an annoying list if you have a lot of combinations you want to define. Maybe there's a way to simplify that, like, have a button for each video input (like the 6 HDMI inputs on the 700) and if more than one virtual combination is defined for that video input, display the list on the screen and allow scrolling through that much shorter list.
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Post by motsu on Feb 27, 2018 12:22:26 GMT -5
...I would be ecstatic if Emotiva returned to the "Virtual Inputs" theory of the UMC-1 for their next generation of processors... you could assign any physical audio input to any physical video input, and assign any of them to multiple "virtual" inputs, etc., without worrying about trying to arrange them sequentially in the menu... it was the ultimate in flexibility, and I still think of it as "the way it *should* be". +1 on that! I think the only con for this is that you can't have a physical button on the remote that selects your virtual input, so you have to scroll through the defined inputs which could be an annoying list if you have a lot of combinations you want to define. Maybe there's a way to simplify that, like, have a button for each video input (like the 6 HDMI inputs on the 700) and if more than one virtual combination is defined for that video input, display the list on the screen and allow scrolling through that much shorter list. Couldnt you have 9 virtual inputs, each virtual input is any 1 physical video input and physical audio input. By default the xmc would come with 9 virtual inputs, preconfigured so that v-input1 would be hdmi1 video and hdmi1 audio... of course you could change this, but that way the input 1 on the remote is always virtual input 1. that way you could have virtual input 1 get both the audio and video from hdmi1, but virtual input 2 get audio from hdmi1 and video from hdmi2. i could see that as being real easy to implement, and imo would be the preferred way of doing inputs. The icing on the cake would be to have a quick swap function. Say i have an input with hdmi3 video and hdmi 2 audio, the button would swap back to hdmi 3 video and audio. pressing it again would return it to hdmi 3 video / hdmi 2 audio. The main reason (at least for me) is sometimes i want to listen to music while the SO wants to play a video game. The current process of getting my computers audio coming out while the games going is a bit cumbersome. This would work for the OP, just switching between an analog input for audio and the hdmi source. As far as the initial question... just input 5.1 through hdmi @ 192khz/24bit. If you want room correction and all that, it will be sampled internally at 48khz (iirc). if you want the clarity of analog, put it into reference stereo mode. 192khz/24 bit wont be discernible.
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Post by Soup on Feb 27, 2018 13:52:23 GMT -5
Here I am again, attempting to set up my XMC-1 that has been in storage for more than a year. Either I can't remember, or never knew, the answer to this: I want to set up my Oppo to play audio through HDMI, 2.0 analog and 5.1 analog. I also want to play the video from my Mac Mini (Roon) and playback audio from both HDMI and USB. I have ripped 5.1 and 2.0 high res files. Is there a way to make these setting in advance so I don't have to physically change the audio input each time? I tried setting a button for each of these, but once I input the HDMI video, the audio input re-sets for all inputs using the HDMI video. Sorry, but I need help on how to do this. Seems possible, but is currently beyond me. Thanks in advance. That is one of the many benefits of Anthem's MRX series, etc. But it is a no-go for Emotiva products.
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Post by KeithL on Feb 27, 2018 14:10:13 GMT -5
Doing it exactly the way you describe is not possible with the XMC-1... (There are different types of logic for associating buttons with inputs; the method we chose only allows a single button to be associated with each input.) This means that you cannot, for example, assign two different buttons to the same HDMI input, and configure each to use a different audio source. There are, however, certain combinations that can be done by pressing TWO buttons - if you configure things correctly. To take mr's example; "I also want to play the video from my Mac Mini (Roon) and playback audio from both HDMI and USB". Let's assume that the Mac Mini is connected via HDMI using HDMI 1; and, of course, the USB connection uses the USB Stream input on the XMC-1. Now let's leave Button #1 configured to select HDMI 1, and configure Button #2 to select the USB input. If you simply press Button #1, you will end up with both audio and video from HDMI 1. HOWEVER, if you press Button #2 AFTER pressing Button #1, you will end up with video from HDMI 1 and audio from the USB input. This will work the same whether you press the buttons one after the other, or if you press Button #2 at any time while watching both video and audio from HDMI 1. When you press Button #1, it selects HDMI 1 as both your video and audio source. Then, when you press Button #2, it selects USB as your audio source. Since Button #2 is selecting an AUDIO ONLY source, the previous video selection remains in effect. (And, if you have a programmable remote you can program it to push Button #1 then Button #2 as a single command.) Here I am again, attempting to set up my XMC-1 that has been in storage for more than a year. Either I can't remember, or never knew, the answer to this: I want to set up my Oppo to play audio through HDMI, 2.0 analog and 5.1 analog. I also want to play the video from my Mac Mini (Roon) and playback audio from both HDMI and USB. I have ripped 5.1 and 2.0 high res files. Is there a way to make these setting in advance so I don't have to physically change the audio input each time? I tried setting a button for each of these, but once I input the HDMI video, the audio input re-sets for all inputs using the HDMI video. Sorry, but I need help on how to do this. Seems possible, but is currently beyond me. Thanks in advance. That is one of the many benefits of Anthem's MRX series, etc. But it is a no-go for Emotiva products.
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Post by Gary Cook on Feb 27, 2018 15:11:15 GMT -5
But it is a no-go for Emotiva products. I can achieve the desired result with my UMC-200 and the UMC-1 before that. For many years I have watched sports and listened to music from different sources at that same time. As Keith suggested configuring the inputs and the remote is a pretty simple process to get the required result. Cheers Gary
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Post by motsu on Mar 1, 2018 17:04:54 GMT -5
Doing it exactly the way you describe is not possible with the XMC-1... (There are different types of logic for associating buttons with inputs; the method we chose only allows a single button to be associated with each input.) This means that you cannot, for example, assign two different buttons to the same HDMI input, and configure each to use a different audio source. There are, however, certain combinations that can be done by pressing TWO buttons - if you configure things correctly. To take mr's example; "I also want to play the video from my Mac Mini (Roon) and playback audio from both HDMI and USB". Let's assume that the Mac Mini is connected via HDMI using HDMI 1; and, of course, the USB connection uses the USB Stream input on the XMC-1. Now let's leave Button #1 configured to select HDMI 1, and configure Button #2 to select the USB input. If you simply press Button #1, you will end up with both audio and video from HDMI 1. HOWEVER, if you press Button #2 AFTER pressing Button #1, you will end up with video from HDMI 1 and audio from the USB input. This will work the same whether you press the buttons one after the other, or if you press Button #2 at any time while watching both video and audio from HDMI 1. When you press Button #1, it selects HDMI 1 as both your video and audio source. Then, when you press Button #2, it selects USB as your audio source. Since Button #2 is selecting an AUDIO ONLY source, the previous video selection remains in effect. (And, if you have a programmable remote you can program it to push Button #1 then Button #2 as a single command.) That is one of the many benefits of Anthem's MRX series, etc. But it is a no-go for Emotiva products. Oh man Keith, this is a game changer... Does this work with HDMI based audio sources? (ie, can i have input 1 as hdmi 1 audio and video | input 2 as hdmi audio and video | input 3 hdmi 1 audio only, then press 2,3 to get hdmi 2 video with hdmi 1 audio?) if so, how would you create an input that is hdmi audio only?
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Post by Gary Cook on Mar 1, 2018 17:43:43 GMT -5
Oh man Keith, this is a game changer... Does this work with HDMI based audio sources? (ie, can i have input 1 as hdmi 1 audio and video | input 2 as hdmi audio and video | input 3 hdmi 1 audio only, then press 2,3 to get hdmi 2 video with hdmi 1 audio?) if so, how would you create an input that is hdmi audio only? Not that I am aware of, I don't believe that its possible to mix HDMI inputs together. I use at the same time a video HDMI input and analogue audio input in the UMC-200 ie, watch football (from the cable box) and listen to music (from the ERC-3). Cheers Gary
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