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Post by brutiarti on Feb 18, 2018 10:22:40 GMT -5
Any yggy owners that have this upgrade and want to share some impressions?
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Post by DYohn on Feb 18, 2018 10:50:54 GMT -5
I'm in the queue. When it's done I'll let you know.
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Post by audiophill on Feb 18, 2018 11:23:55 GMT -5
I'm going to buy a RMC-1 once it's available. I was also thinking on getting the Yggdrasil dac. Should I hold of on the dac and first hear how good the RMC-1's dac is or would the Yggdrasil be a step above regardless? Thanks
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Post by DYohn on Feb 18, 2018 11:36:10 GMT -5
I'm going to buy a RMC-1 once it's available. I was also thinking on getting the Yggdrasil dac. Should I hold of on the dac and first hear how good the RMC-1's dac is or would the Yggdrasil be a step above regardless? Thanks Those are two entirely different devices. RMC-1 is going to be an end-game home theater processor. It will have multi-channel DAC capability for digital inputs of course, but that is not its primary function. A stand-alone DAC is a way to improve the sound normally available from the built-in DACs on players or processors or receivers. Yggdrasil is a completely different type of DAC than what the RMC-1 or any other processor will include. Whether it sounds better or not is in the ear of the beholder, and it is a single input stereo only device. My recommendation is if you want end-game performance for both 2-channel and for multi-channel and HT, you'll likely want both.  |
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Post by brutiarti on Feb 18, 2018 12:00:31 GMT -5
I'm in the queue. When it's done I'll let you know. Nice! I know that the main upgrade is the output analog stage, do you know what are the improvements, at least in paper, that is supposed to offer. The description on their website is a little vague for my limited technical knowledge. |
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Post by DYohn on Feb 18, 2018 12:17:52 GMT -5
I'm in the queue. When it's done I'll let you know. Nice! I know that the main upgrade is the output analog stage, do you know what are the improvements, at least in paper, that is supposed to offer. The description on their website is a little vague for my limited technical knowledge. On his forum on Head-Fi Mike Moffatt described the extent of the update. He said it includes two entirely new boards for the output stages and the DSP engine, new firmware, and several other tweaks that he thinks make it sound better. The reason the upgrade costs so much is the boards swap. |
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Post by audiophill on Feb 18, 2018 15:06:14 GMT -5
Good to know I guess I'm buying both RMC-1 and Yggdrasil. Thank you for twisting my arm, lol. Good times coming!
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Post by foggy1956 on Feb 18, 2018 15:14:45 GMT -5
Good to know I guess I'm buying both RMC-1 and Yggdrasil. Thank you for twisting my arm, lol. Good times coming! Out of curiosity, where would my journey take me to find a significant upgrade to my xmc-1 dac for 2 channel listening? |
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Post by foggy1956 on Feb 19, 2018 12:33:34 GMT -5
Good to know I guess I'm buying both RMC-1 and Yggdrasil. Thank you for twisting my arm, lol. Good times coming! Out of curiosity, where would my journey take me to find a significant upgrade to my xmc-1 dac for 2 channel listening? A little help please? |
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Post by DYohn on Feb 19, 2018 14:41:07 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, where would my journey take me to find a significant upgrade to my xmc-1 dac for 2 channel listening? A little help please? Give me some more info. Are you using the XMC-1 now as a preamp for 2-channel and you want to augment it with an external DAC, or do you want to build a new 2-channel system? And what kind of budget do you have? |
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Post by foggy1956 on Feb 19, 2018 14:45:01 GMT -5
Give me some more info. Are you using the XMC-1 now as a preamp for 2-channel and you want to augment it with an external DAC, or do you want to build a new 2-channel system? And what kind of budget do you have? The xmc-1 functions as my 2 channel preamp, tentative budget under a grand |
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Post by DYohn on Feb 19, 2018 15:18:29 GMT -5
OK, so what you would do is place a DAC between your digital source and an analog stereo input on the XMC-1. Take a look at the Emotiva DC-1 DAC, it gets high marks from many users. Another option that is good under a grand is the Marantz HD-DAC1, and since we are discussing Schiit the Bifrost Multibit is quite good and in the same price range.
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Post by foggy1956 on Feb 19, 2018 15:56:58 GMT -5
OK, so what you would do is place a DAC between your digital source and an analog stereo input on the XMC-1. Take a look at the Emotiva DC-1 DAC, it gets high marks from many users. Another option that is good under a grand is the Marantz HD-DAC1, and since we are discussing Schiit the Bifrost Multibit is quite good and in the same price range. Curious, those with experience, is the DC-1 an actual step up in comparison to the xmc-1 dac? |
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Post by brutiarti on Feb 19, 2018 16:05:10 GMT -5
OK, so what you would do is place a DAC between your digital source and an analog stereo input on the XMC-1. Take a look at the Emotiva DC-1 DAC, it gets high marks from many users. Another option that is good under a grand is the Marantz HD-DAC1, and since we are discussing Schiit the Bifrost Multibit is quite good and in the same price range. Curious, those with experience, is the DC-1 an actual step up in comparison to the xmc-1 dac? Under 1k I don't think you will find a better DAC that the XMC-1 internal one. |
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Post by novisnick on Feb 19, 2018 16:11:38 GMT -5
OK, so what you would do is place a DAC between your digital source and an analog stereo input on the XMC-1. Take a look at the Emotiva DC-1 DAC, it gets high marks from many users. Another option that is good under a grand is the Marantz HD-DAC1, and since we are discussing Schiit the Bifrost Multibit is quite good and in the same price range. Curious, those with experience, is the DC-1 an actual step up in comparison to the xmc-1 dac? I personally think thatwhat Emotiva had learned from the XSP-1 and DC-1 was incorporated into the XMC-1. So to answer your question, I believe its a sideways move. That NOT a bad thing! 👍 |
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Post by novisnick on Feb 19, 2018 16:14:19 GMT -5
Curious, those with experience, is the DC-1 an actual step up in comparison to the xmc-1 dac? Under 1k I don't think you will find a better DAC that the XMC-1 internal one. Truely! |
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Post by sahmen on Feb 19, 2018 23:35:27 GMT -5
I use the Yggdrasil with my XMC-1 for two channel listening duties, and I find it to be quite the charmer in the audio nirvana department. YMMV, of course.
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Post by klinemj on Feb 20, 2018 20:57:02 GMT -5
OK, so what you would do is place a DAC between your digital source and an analog stereo input on the XMC-1. Take a look at the Emotiva DC-1 DAC, it gets high marks from many users. Another option that is good under a grand is the Marantz HD-DAC1, and since we are discussing Schiit the Bifrost Multibit is quite good and in the same price range. Curious, those with experience, is the DC-1 an actual step up in comparison to the xmc-1 dac? That was not my experience. The XMC-1's DAC (in reference stereo mode) was as good as the DC-1. Lonnie and Dan say the DC-2 will be a step up, but I've yet to hear the final product so I can't comment. ( Lonnie and Dan Laufman - I will still happily test out a DC-2 for you per your offer at Emofest!). For me - I am loving my LH Labs Geek Pulse X Infinity and find it a step up over the XMC-1 in reference stereo and the DC-1. And, I got mine for <$1K. Mark |
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Post by Soup on Feb 20, 2018 21:11:02 GMT -5
Whatever decision you make, you will get better bang for the buck on the secondary market.
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Post by foggy1956 on Feb 20, 2018 22:17:36 GMT -5
Curious, those with experience, is the DC-1 an actual step up in comparison to the xmc-1 dac? That was not my experience. The XMC-1's DAC (in reference stereo mode) was as good as the DC-1. Lonnie and Dan say the DC-2 will be a step up, but I've yet to hear the final product so I can't comment. ( Lonnie and Dan Laufman - I will still happily test out a DC-2 for you per your offer at Emofest!). For me - I am loving my LH Labs Geek Pulse X Infinity and find it a step up over the XMC-1 in reference stereo and the DC-1. And, I got mine for <$1K. Mark Thanks Mark, I will take a look. Does your dac have balanced outs and will it also do bass management as I sometimes like to incorporate my subs into the chain? Is bass management even a function of a stand alone dac? |
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